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I have purchased the model ship ways U.S.S. Constitution and yes, I know the skill level is for advanced modelers but I wanted a challenge.  I have been studying the plans and I noticed that there is a build in which someone filled in between the bulkheads with balsa wood for the entire length of the model instead of just at the bow and stern.  What advantage is it to build it that way?  It seems it would be easier to plank the ship with the solid frame but cutting and trimming  the filler might be harder than it looks. .  are there any suggestions or comments?  

     I wanted to build a big model as I have really big hands to handle those tiny parts, but good grief, that thing is huge.  No wonder those kits are so expensive. .  anyway,  I'd like to know what tips I need to know before I get started.   Model shipways says even a beginner can build it if he takes his time.  . . . I built me a nice 10 foot work bench out in the garage. .  put a couple of lights and a magnifier on it, so I guess I'm ready to begin.  Are there any good books that might be worthy of filling in the gaps between ignorance and experience?  I already know that whoever named all those parts on these ships must have had one too many because none of the names of these parts make any sense.   Who ever heard of a bowspirit, bearding line, or a rabbit ?  I was in the Navy (many years ago) and I remember the poop deck but some of the names of those sails are beyond the English language.  Thank you for any and all the help you can give me.  

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Wayne  

 

Present build - U.S.S. Constitution 

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I would say that filler blocks are only necessary at the bow and stern so you have something to assist you in both affixing the planks and achieving the correct shape. There should be more than enough bulkheads for you to attach your planks with some type of planking screw between these blocks. Just make sure you fair in the bulkheads with a file or sanding block before beginning planking

Hornet

 

Current Build: - OcCre Shackleton’s Endurance. 

 

Completed Ship Builds:

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                                                                      - Cutter `Mermaid'- In Gallery

                                                                      - Sirius Longboat (bashed) - In Gallery

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There was a master builder, Bill Evans, who recommended balsa fillers in his articles in Model Shipways magazine (I think).  He said that it prevented deformations that he observed that occurred in planked hulls over time, especially if there weren't enough bulkheads or frames.

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I think it also depends on what material is used for the bulkheads.  I didn't fill on my Badger or Pegasus.  The Badger had very stiff plywood, while the Pegasus had solid MDF.

 

On my Lyme build however, Corel used thin plywood with a lot of flex.  Rather than fill between each bulkhead, I added in braces in between:

 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6223-hms-lyme-1748-1760-by-landlubber-mike-kit-bash-of-corel-unicorn-scale-175/?p=220346

 

 

To me, filling the entire area between each bulkhead seems like a bit of overkill.  But, it's probably the safest way to do things.

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Mike

 

Current Wooden builds:  Amati/Victory Pegasus  MS Charles W. Morgan  Euromodel La Renommèe  

 

Plastic builds:    SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48  Five Star Yaeyama 1/700  Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama  Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32  Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72  IJN Notoro 1/700  Akitsu Maru 1/700

 

Completed builds :  Caldercraft Brig Badger   Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle  Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700   Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350

F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72  Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48  Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48  Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48

Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya  Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16

 

Terminated build:  HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn)  

 

On the shelf:  Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits

 

Future potential scratch builds:  HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)

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