marktiedens Posted January 1, 2016 Author Share #61 Posted January 1, 2016 Before continuing the first planking above the level of the main deck I wanted to determine exactly where the planks would end at the bow. After studying the plan sheets i marked on the bow deck where the planking should end - approx.19mm in front of bulkhead F. I used one of the cut outs from the bulkheads to make a new false bulkhead which already had the correct deck camber across the top. Then I spaced it 3mm in front of bulkhead F. From what I measured it should give me the correct starting point for the planks. There will be another thin false bulkhead which will have the roundhouses & decorations mounted on it & glued on at a later stage. Mark avsjerome2003, edmay, md1400cs and 4 others 7 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share #62 Posted January 12, 2016 A little progress - stove located & glued down. Then I glued the forecastle deck & planked it. Also built up the bulwarks double thick with some first planking strips. They will be trimmed down after determining the positions of the cast metal decorations. Also lined the gun ports without lids at the waist with 1 mm strips. They look a little large,but they measure 11mm as on the plans. The finish planking will go all the way to the inside edge of those gun ports. All the gun ports with lids will be lined with 1mm strips set back 1mm from the outside edge after the finish planking. Mark avsjerome2003, Seventynet, Keith_W and 10 others 13 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted January 14, 2016 Share #63 Posted January 14, 2016 Mark, You are out-doing-yourself on this one (:-) Cheers Michael marktiedens 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtdoramike Posted January 14, 2016 Share #64 Posted January 14, 2016 Beautiful planking job on her. mike marktiedens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share #65 Posted January 14, 2016 Thank you very much Michael & Mike. I`m still in the easy part of this build - the stern galleries look like they will be pretty tricky when I get to them. BTW - I have a son named Michael . Mark md1400cs 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted January 14, 2016 Share #66 Posted January 14, 2016 Mark, Great job so far and nice attention to detail! I loved the idea of bleaching the wood for the deck planking. It really came out nice! I will have to experiment with this method in the future on different woods to see the effects. Frank marktiedens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share #67 Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) Thanks Frank - I actually got the bleaching idea from Vince P who is also building this ship. I haven`t tried it on anything but the kit walnut. Also the bleach doesn`t penetrate clear through the wood - the planks are still dark on the inside. Mark Edited January 14, 2016 by marktiedens fmodajr 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share #68 Posted January 20, 2016 Hi all - thanks everyone for looking in. I got the inner bulwark finish planking done & painted.Also cut the openings for the anchor catheads. I had some extra gun carriages & a couple of extra cannon in my spare parts box that were about the same size as the kit cannons,so I rigged a couple of them up that are under the quarter deck. Then I finished building the stair railing with more of those grooved toothpicks - not the greatest looking but it is nearly hidden under the quarter deck. Mark fmodajr, Keith_W, md1400cs and 5 others 8 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted January 21, 2016 Share #69 Posted January 21, 2016 Hi Mark, Looking real nice! Quick question: Was there not enough cannon supplied with the kit? I noticed you said you put in some extra spare ones you had. thanks, Frank marktiedens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted January 21, 2016 Share #70 Posted January 21, 2016 Quick question: Was there not enough cannon supplied with the kit? I noticed you said you put in some extra spare ones you had. There are enough half cannons (dummy cannons) and full cannons supplied in the kit to build the RW as indicated in their plans. However, their plans indicate that the dummy cannons should be used under some of the open decks, where they may be visible. Also, it appears that Mark is doing what I did (hack through some frames to open up more holes for cannons). If you do that, you will end up with a shortage of cannons. I had to order more cannons from Euromodel. marktiedens and fmodajr 2 Quote Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted January 21, 2016 Share #71 Posted January 21, 2016 Hi Keith, Thanks for the explanation! I understand now what Mark is doing! thanks, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share #72 Posted January 21, 2016 Hi Frank - Keith is correct about the cannons. The kit came with 74 dummy cannons of various sizes & 26 full size cannons. There are 2 under the quarter deck & 2 under the forecastle that they indicate using dummy cannons. They are difficult to see but they are visible if you look close enough. I only have 2 extra full size cannons that are about the same size so I flipped a coin & decided to put them under the quarter deck - they are more visible than the 2 under the forecastle. Under the forecastle will be the 2 dummy guns. Also some of the other gun ports that are completely blocked by bulkheads will have the lids shut. I did open a few that were just partially blocked. Mark fmodajr 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share #73 Posted January 27, 2016 Hi Lawrence - thanks for your nice comments. Those windows are actually all but hidden under the quarter deck - it was good practice for the gallery windows,which are a bit down the road. Mark canoe21 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share #74 Posted February 6, 2016 Hi all - a little update. I installed the quarter deck & planked it - I don`t know if the overhang at the rear will eventually will be cut off,so I planked it all the way to the rear.Then I double planked the bulwarks,added a finish layer of planks to the inside,cut out the gun ports& painted it. A question for you RW builders out there - there doesn`t seem to be any dummy half-guns with the same size barrel as the quarter deck & forecastle deck full cannons. The smallest half guns are the same size as the main deck cannons,which are larger than the cannons on the upper decks. Are we supposed to use them anyway?I am thinking about just showing the ports on the quarter deck with dummy guns closed - the dummy guns provided have noticeably larger barrel diameters. Mark Seventynet, fmodajr, Beef Wellington and 3 others 6 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share #75 Posted February 6, 2016 Here is what I mean by different size barrels. Mark canoe21 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmodajr Posted February 7, 2016 Share #76 Posted February 7, 2016 Nice job Mark! I now see what you meant by the area under the quarter deck being mostly hidden. A shame that the nicely done gallery windows are mostly hidden! Frank Seventynet and marktiedens 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share #77 Posted February 7, 2016 Thanks Frank - yes the windows are mostly hidden but it was good practice cutting out all those panes . I wanted to practice on this piece so if I messed it up no one could see it. Mark fmodajr 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted February 7, 2016 Share #78 Posted February 7, 2016 Mark I am still overseas. When I get back, I will check my stash. From memory, they did supply two different diameters of dummy guns. Quote Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share #79 Posted February 7, 2016 Hi Keith - actually there are 3 sizes of dummy guns but the smallest ones are still larger than the guns for the quarterdeck. The parts list shows the 3 sizes of dummy guns & 2 sizes of full guns. Mark Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted February 7, 2016 Share #80 Posted February 7, 2016 Hi Keith - actually there are 3 sizes of dummy guns but the smallest ones are still larger than the guns for the quarterdeck. The parts list shows the 3 sizes of dummy guns & 2 sizes of full guns. Mark Hi Mark, I checked my kit and there are 3 sizes of dummy guns and the smallest are the same size as the quarterdeck guns. Vince P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share #81 Posted February 7, 2016 Hi Vince - I checked again and I have the 3 sizes of dummy guns. The largest are for the first gun deck,the next size smaller are for the second gun deck,& the next size smaller are for the main deck. The quarter & forecastle deck guns are smaller yet. If you refer back a couple of posts there is a picture of a quarter deck gun & the smallest dummy gun that I have. There are enough of the smallest dummy guns to put in all the ports without carriages on the quarter deck,but the barrels are noticeably larger . Mark Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPink Posted February 7, 2016 Share #82 Posted February 7, 2016 Hi Mark I have the same as you. When I looked at them I thought at the time they looked a bit on the large side. I did not say anything as I was doing the hull planking at the time and I forgot all about it till now. Have you asked Peter about it ??. Denis. marktiedens 1 Quote Complete: Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Current build: Euro Model "Royal William" Scale 1:72 HMS "Revenge" Victory Model (Amati) Scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmay Posted February 8, 2016 Share #83 Posted February 8, 2016 Wow Mark, Very nice clean workmanship,Edwin marktiedens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirozzi Posted February 8, 2016 Share #84 Posted February 8, 2016 Hi Mark, Here is what I have. As you can see, the smallest dummy barrel is just about right for the quarterdeck. The smallest ones were not in with the larger brass ones, and were is a seperate package. I included all of the sizes plus a sample of a main deck and quarterdeck gun. Vince P. canoe21, md1400cs and edmay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted February 8, 2016 Share #85 Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) G'day Mark Just started to read your log. Excellent comes to my mind. Love your balustrades and windows. Its a great pity they both will be only partially viable. Havagooday mate Greg Edited February 8, 2016 by Greg the peg leg sailor Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share #86 Posted February 8, 2016 Denis - I have not checked with Peter. Edwin & Greg - thanks for looking in & your nice comments. Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share #87 Posted February 8, 2016 Hi again Vince - I took a picture of all the guns in my kit. From left to right - quarter & forecastle gun,main deck gun,main deck half gun,second gun deck half gun,lower gun deck half gun. The sizes & quantities are correct in my parts list. Maybe you have an older or newer one than mine. Anyway it`s no big deal - I may just leave those 3 rear ports closed. Only 2 of them are shown open anyway. Mark canoe21 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share #88 Posted February 12, 2016 Update - first thanks to all for looking in & your likes. I drilled out all the window sections of the quarter deck panels & filled them with some kristal klear window maker - all 108 of them. Needless to say my fingers are a little sore. Sorry I forgot to take some close ups of them. After gluing them in place I made an upper quarter deck support beam & glued in place. I had to make some short knees for it - full length beams would have been in the way of the gun carriages & their rigging. Mark edmay, fmodajr, John Maguire and 5 others 8 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg the peg leg sailor Posted February 12, 2016 Share #89 Posted February 12, 2016 G'day Mark Just brilliant work on the windows, I reckon not only your fingers were saw, your eyes must be saw as well. Havagooday Greg Quote "Nothing is impossible, it's only what limitations that you put on yourself make it seems impossible! " Current log : The Royal Yacht Royal Caroline 1749 1:32 by Greg Ashwood:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktiedens Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share #90 Posted February 12, 2016 Thanks Greg - yea a little hard on the old eyes too . Mark edmay 1 Quote current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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