Robin Lous Posted August 29, 2016 Author #31 Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) The new "open look" Finished all the frames...and my target for the day (that's a first!) More soon, Robin Edited September 22, 2017 by Robin Lous cog, Red, zoly99sask and 6 others 9 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cobra1951 Posted August 29, 2016 #32 Posted August 29, 2016 Always nice to reach a target cog, Robin Lous and EJ_L 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
cog Posted August 29, 2016 #33 Posted August 29, 2016 Looks good, Robin. So what'll you do when you didn't reach your target? To bed early I saw you weren't buolding side by side your two kits. Is that to avoid conflicts between your work forces ... Am enjoying your build so far cobra1951, Robin Lous and EJ_L 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Robin Lous Posted August 29, 2016 Author #34 Posted August 29, 2016 Lol no....building 2 simultaneously is a bit too much. I never build a woorden ship before, so one to start with is plenty! Thinking of the second already also through. When I have several options, I do one now and the next...next bireme. More soon, Robin cog, EJ_L and cobra1951 3 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted August 30, 2016 Author #35 Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Today I replaced the plywood stern decoration with a new one made of basswood. Slightly larger. I think it's a dolphin head, but when you think it's a swan, duck, seahorse or Nessie...I won't feel offended The filler blocks make it a strong construction again...same with the new bow "spar" btw. More soon! Robin Edited September 22, 2017 by Robin Lous Nikiforos, foxy, zoly99sask and 6 others 9 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cobra1951 Posted August 30, 2016 #36 Posted August 30, 2016 Nice work on the stern decoration I think it's a Seahorse EJ_L, Robin Lous, foxy and 1 other 4 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
cog Posted August 31, 2016 #37 Posted August 31, 2016 Will look definitely much beytter when finished. You certainly won't see those ugly layers from the plywood. Well done Robin Lous, PeteB and cobra1951 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
AntonyUK Posted August 31, 2016 #38 Posted August 31, 2016 Hi Robin. Ime going to follow along on this one if you don't mind. Very interesting modifications to the kits. Two kits... I would have built one to the plan and instruction and the other with all the mods.. Have a nice holiday. Regards Antony. Robin Lous, WackoWolf and cobra1951 3 Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
Robin Lous Posted August 31, 2016 Author #39 Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) Thanks for the encouraging words guys! much appreciated! Where I am now... Finished the framing and did the forward and aft decks. Top and lower deck, rower seat beams...there for the show. I salvaged the 2 side decks...I cut them up to make the lower centre deck from. Will be 2 parts, so I can slide them in place when I'm ready for them. Finally it start to look like something. Until today it was a pile of bits and pieces...now it's a "thing"! More soon, Robin Edited September 22, 2017 by Robin Lous EJ_L, Daniel Dusek, WackoWolf and 6 others 9 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cobra1951 Posted August 31, 2016 #40 Posted August 31, 2016 Coming together nicely, now you can see it's a ship WackoWolf, EJ_L, cog and 1 other 4 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
EJ_L Posted August 31, 2016 #41 Posted August 31, 2016 Always a nice day when you can finally start to recognize all those pieces as a ship and not just a pile of funny shaped wood. Looking good! cog, cobra1951 and Robin Lous 3 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild
cog Posted August 31, 2016 #42 Posted August 31, 2016 A thing ... ... thought you were building a bireme ... Nice skeleton you've ended up with EJ_L, Robin Lous and cobra1951 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Robin Lous Posted August 31, 2016 Author #43 Posted August 31, 2016 A thing ... ... thought you were building a bireme ... Nice skeleton you've ended up with Err...yes...it's a bireme work in progress (penteconter with 2 oar levels for Greek historical accuracy purists). I can't remember I somewhere said it's ready, but when I did...sorry...it's not yet finished...sorry cog and EJ_L 2 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted September 1, 2016 Author #44 Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) Finished the lower deck and glued on the centre top deck. Did part of the deck planking before I glued it on, because it's easier to do it on the bench I think. I'm also making 2 hatches in the deck. More soon, Robin Edited September 22, 2017 by Robin Lous foxy, EJ_L, Daniel Dusek and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
foxy Posted September 2, 2016 #45 Posted September 2, 2016 Cracking work Robin, you have come along way since I looked in. Like the swan neck. Frank cog, cobra1951 and Robin Lous 3 Quote
Robin Lous Posted September 2, 2016 Author #46 Posted September 2, 2016 (edited) Thanks Frank! All good things must end...after 2 weeks in the Bordeaux wine region we go back tomorrow. A stop over in Normandy, so we'll be back home on sunday. Glorious weather, great wine and food...and plenty shipyard time. Shipyard packed for now Next week I can continue my build on my trusted work desk...with good internet! See you guys next week again. More soon! Robin Edited September 22, 2017 by Robin Lous cog, AntonyUK, cobra1951 and 3 others 6 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cog Posted September 2, 2016 #47 Posted September 2, 2016 Have a safe trip back home! Robin Lous, EJ_L, cobra1951 and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Robin Lous Posted September 4, 2016 Author #48 Posted September 4, 2016 (edited) After a fairly uneventful journey home....back home! It was a great vacation, but it's nice to be back home also. Time to unpack and continue my build. I finished fairing the frames, but before I start planking the hull I'll do some deck surgery. I'll add vertical beams in between the frames. They'll be additional deck support beams and continue to be railing posts above the deck. More soon! Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous mtaylor, BIGMAC, EJ_L and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
EJ_L Posted September 4, 2016 #49 Posted September 4, 2016 Welcome home! You do have a nice set up there for building. I'm looking forward to seeing more as it develops. mtaylor, cog and Robin Lous 3 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild
Robin Lous Posted September 5, 2016 Author #50 Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) Shipyard in business again Reworked the deck to prepare it for the railing. I removed the planking above the frames for a better railing post attachment there. And removed chunks of the deck where the railing posts will go down to form additional deck support beams. I think these extra support beams make sense and they'll make the railing construction much easier and a lot more sturdy. I'll do the railing later and I wait with finishing the deck planks until I did the hull planking there. Need to finish the rower seats now, because I need to slide in the lower seat beam before I can start planking the hull. So...boring seats tomorrow...I ran out of excuses to do other things first More soon, Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous Nikiforos, BIGMAC, cog and 7 others 10 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted September 5, 2016 Author #51 Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) On 17-8-2016 at 10:19 PM, Robin Lous said: I'll scratchbuild a lot to modify the seats. 1x1mm beams to support the seats and foot rests...the foot rests themselves and a side support on each side of the seat. Each seat will go from 1 to 7 parts. An oarsman can't row without a proper foot rest. Specially the top row. There's no deck below the oarsman there. It will be a right mess with their feet dangling, they'll pull themselves off their seats when they use some force to row, so foot rests are a must. from 50 to 350 parts to start with Quote So...boring seats tomorrow...I ran out of excuses to do other things first What a job! Me and my big mouth But I managed! A 2x2mm beam, with 2 1x1mm support beams per seat. The seats, seat side supports and the foot rests are made from 0,5mm thick wood cut to size. So indeed the 7 parts per seat. I copied the seats used on the Olympias Athenian trieres reconstruction. Edit: note the first seat has no foot rests, because nobody behind him to use them...and the last rower has a seperate set, because there's no seat in front of him. Maybe the added detail won't be very visible on the lower seats, but they will be visible on the top seats (I hope). But...I come from a strange planet where people detail and paint cockpits and hide them in a plane when finished....so I'm a bit odd More soon! Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous EJ_L, Nikiforos, WackoWolf and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cog Posted September 5, 2016 #52 Posted September 5, 2016 Doesn't look very comfortable, just looking at it gives me pain in my but, you could have scratch build a bit more comfort Very nicely doen Robin!! Robin Lous, cobra1951, WackoWolf and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Robin Lous Posted September 5, 2016 Author #53 Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) Every oarsman brought his own cushion made of sheepskin with him. I think you can compare the "luxury" with modern time sport rowers...none whatsoever But...keep in mind these ships were made for relatively short stay on the sea. Most battles were fought near the coast. The ships hardly ever stayed out for more than 6 to 8 hours. The ships were normally beached to dry and to feed and rest the crew after that time out.. Longer journeys were divided in short legs...along a coast line or from island to island Nice video of the sea trials of the Olympias trieres...you can see the oarsmen (and women) rowing. ...note the comfort (and my seats! between 7:10 and 7:50 some good foot rest views also) Edited September 5, 2016 by Robin Lous BIGMAC, baskerbosse, EJ_L and 5 others 8 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted September 6, 2016 Author #54 Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) Today I finished the second rower seat beam and stained both. Also made the two deck hatches and ladders underneath them. What's next? Hull planking (scary job) I'll start working again tomorrow, so I can't start the planking before sunday. Perhaps I do some test bending before sunday, but nothing to show before sunday or monday. More soon! Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous WackoWolf, AntonyUK, cog and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cobra1951 Posted September 6, 2016 #55 Posted September 6, 2016 Coming along nicely i like it Robin Lous, cog and EJ_L 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
Louie da fly Posted September 8, 2016 #56 Posted September 8, 2016 It's coming together nicely. I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of. You're doing a very good, methodical job, and it shows in your results. Steven EJ_L and Robin Lous 2 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
BIGMAC Posted September 8, 2016 #57 Posted September 8, 2016 Amazing work Robin!!!!!! Robin Lous, EJ_L and WackoWolf 3 Quote
Robin Lous Posted September 8, 2016 Author #58 Posted September 8, 2016 Thanks guys! I try my best, it's fun! Working on the top seats now and practised bending hull planks. Not even that difficult (phew!). What worries me a bit is...the planks are only 3mm wide and 2mm thick...making neat stealers will be very tough....I think We'll see...more soon! Robin cog, cobra1951, EJ_L and 2 others 5 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cobra1951 Posted September 8, 2016 #59 Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) Make stealers with wet wood and use lots of small passes with the blade not one big cut. The wet wood will help prevent the blade from trying to follow the grain Edited September 8, 2016 by Cobr@ EJ_L, Robin Lous and WackoWolf 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
Robin Lous Posted September 8, 2016 Author #60 Posted September 8, 2016 Thanks for the advise Bob. The odd shape of the bow and the raised stern will cause me headaches here and there I guess, but I just start and I'll try to spot issues before they become...issues. Robin WackoWolf, cobra1951, EJ_L and 1 other 4 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
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