Worldway Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share #241 Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) Alan, according to the library's web site they use PLA plastic filament (Polylactic Acid). It's quite rigid. The detail wasn't too bad and was good enough for what I needed. As a side note, I broke down and bought a 3D printer. I ended up buying the Creality Ender 3 2V. I looked at resin printers but figured I would get more use out of a filament printer as I wanted it for a lot more than just modelling. Plus I don't have to deal with possibly dangerous chemicals. We'll have to talk some day soon so I can see what your 3D printing experience has been like and perhaps compare notes. Luckily, our IT department at work has a printer and has offered to help me plus there is a lady at work who uses one extensively in a side business she has and has also offered to help me. David, I happened upon the library's website and noticed they did 3D printing so I thought it might be a good solution. Like you, I hated trying to put the dories together and eventually I gave up with a pile of scrap. I wasn't going to add the dories to the Bluenose until I saw the library's site. I found a file on Thingiverse which I rescaled and emailed to the library. I had no idea if I was sending them the correct file or if the scale would show up correctly or if I nested the duplicates properly. I talked with one librarian who runs the printer and she looked at everything I sent her and told me it was fine. I was happy with the results. I had a quick look at the website you suggested and will definitely be spending more time there, not just for the sails but for other build aspects as well. As far as sails go, I met up with Alan a few weeks ago and he was showing me a sail he made with silk span and I was very impressed with the results. So I'll be experimenting with it as well. So many options. John, I'll be happy to help as much as I can as I'm sure anyone on MSW would. However, I'm a beginner and am learning as I go as this is only the second build I've done. Edited October 20, 2021 by Worldway David Lester and John Ruy 2 Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted October 20, 2021 Share #242 Posted October 20, 2021 Derek Let me know how the clean up goes on the PLA as my experience was it was difficult to sand or file. A flat blade on the soldering iron helped a bit but your supposed to use wet sand paper on it... and a good dose of elbow grease. 😉 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted October 20, 2021 Share #243 Posted October 20, 2021 Derek. I have a E3V2 as well, still in box though. Resin printer is good for very small details. I have received some parts for my 4ft ship (3d printed). Personally I don't see any future need of a resin - at least not yet. Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worldway Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share #244 Posted October 20, 2021 Thanks Per. I pick up the printer on Saturday and will spend the better part of the weekend getting familiar with it. I'm looking forward to using it. I plan on also downloading Fusion 360 so I can develop my own files (hopefully). If I can master this fast enough I may go back in my Bluenose build and 3D print some of the Britannia fittings which didn't turn out so well and reinstall them. Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worldway Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share #245 Posted November 24, 2021 I've spent some time printing new dories for the Bluenose along with some crates and barrels to add to the deck. The dories I had printed at my local library were a little on the large side and had a lot of supports added. I found that, because of the relatively small size, they didn't need any supports therefore didn't need any cleaning up. Of course they will still need to be painted and have some details added but it's a good start. bhermann, Ian_Grant, Nirvana and 2 others 5 Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted November 24, 2021 Share #246 Posted November 24, 2021 Any possibility to get the stl file for the dories? Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worldway Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share #247 Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) Hi Per, I got the STL file for the dory from Thingiverse. The link to the file is https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:236917 I scaled it and made multiple copies for the same print using my slicer program. If you're not familiar with the site, they have thousands of files you can download for free. I also got the barrels and crates from the same site. Edited November 25, 2021 by Worldway Nirvana and AON 1 1 Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worldway Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share #248 Posted January 22, 2023 It's been quite a while so I thought I would offer a brief update on the progress of my Bluenose. I can say that progress has been very slow however I have not abandoned the project nor do I plan to. I keep getting sidetracked but always seem to gravitate back to the shop, and I can say that my interest in ships and ship history hasn't diminished. I have projects in mind that I would like to do in the future but am determined to finish the ones I have started and abandoned. I have 3 other ships in the drydock that I would like to finish first before I tackle anything new. At one point I thought about finishing the Bluenose without the sails but quickly decided that the sails are one of the recognizing features of the Bluenose. I was fortunate enough to have a friend give me his patterns for the sails so should make that task a little easier. I have pretty much finished the deck complete with the 8 dories normally carried when she was used as a fishing vessel. I've yet to lash them down. The main mast is almost complete. It's not permanently mounted yet but it's close. I plan to start on the foremast shortly. As previously reported, the dories and the crates/barrels are 3D printed. Although not authentic, I think the crates/barrels add a little to the deck. I will still add to this build log as I progress. I hope that I will post more often in the future and hopefully have the Bluenose complete in a timely manner. hof00, Prowler901, AON and 2 others 5 Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted January 22, 2023 Share #249 Posted January 22, 2023 I think it looks fantastic! Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worldway Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share #250 Posted January 22, 2023 Thanks Alan, it's been a journey, that's for sure. Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worldway Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share #251 Posted February 11, 2023 Today I finished up the main mast. For the chafing piece for the boom jaws, I had a piece of brass tubing that I cut to length and slid on the mast. I installed the 4 chocks, cutting pieces out of 1/16" x 1/8" basswood. I also made sure I installed the mast hoops first. I found that the quantity of mast hoops I had didn't total the same quantity that shows on the drawing. Not sure what to do, I simply divided the total quantity by 2 and used half on the main mast and will put the other half on the foremast. Hopefully I can make it work from there. The drawing shows a white band at the bottom of the mast called a Canvas Mast Coat. I had some spare fabric and cut a strip to suit and glued it on. I still haven't permanently installed the main mast. Probably won't until all the masts, booms etc are done. I think I will work on the bowsprit or the fore boom and gaff before tackling the foremast. David Lester, AON, bhermann and 1 other 4 Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worldway Posted February 18, 2023 Author Share #252 Posted February 18, 2023 Started today working on the fore gaff. The kit comes with laser cut jaws. I used the material originally supplied to assemble the dories as shims to center the jaw on the gaff. Once assembled, I set this aside to let the glue dry. I wanted to finish the bowsprit, or at least paint it and install it so I could eventually install the traveler block. I originally installed the two strips of wood on either side of the center line of the bowsprit but was unhappy with how it turned out so I removed them and tried again. In removing them, I did a little damage but I think I cleaned it up OK. I contemplated scrapping and starting over again but decided it wasn't necessary. While studying the drawings I discovered that I had yet to install the deadeyes on the ship's rails. So I wrapped them in the 0.014" dia wire. It was a little fiddly but went pretty well non the less. I had some issues drilling holes and installing them properly. I purchased a set of micro drill bits off Amazon and found "a deal". However, they weren't the best quality and they broke pretty quickly. So I started drilling with the correct size, broke it, switched to another size, broke it, etc. etc. Also, because I hadn't installed the main rail and monkey rail with the accuracy required, I couldn't install the deadeyes in the proper locations on the external edge. As such, I'm not sure if I will add the metal straps below the deadeyes. It won't align properly and think it would look worse instead of adding more realism to the finished model. bhermann, David Lester, Prowler901 and 2 others 5 Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worldway Posted March 21, 2023 Author Share #253 Posted March 21, 2023 I thought I would shift focus and move on to sails for the time being. I had a friend give me the patterns for his Bluenose sails but they weren't the correct scale. I also wasn't sure if the kit provided me with enough material to make the sails; considering I will likely have to remake a few of them as a learning exercise. I went to our local Fabric shop and picked up some material that was similar to the material provided in the kit. I don't know if the material is to proper scale (thickness) but for now it will do. I also picked up some tracing paper and started tracing out the sails. I plan on photocopying the patterns before I attempt to use them. I have a feeling the copies will be needed. I have been loosely following Bob Hunt's practicum. However, with the Bluenose he does not cover the sails. His practicum is for a ship without sails. His series of practicums increase in skill level as the builder moves from one practicum to the next. With the Bluenose he didn't cover the sails as this practicum was designed for the beginner. Luckily I do have a couple of articles on sail making and, of course, I got all the information at my fingertips on this forum. AON, bhermann and Haliburton 3 Quote Derek If you want to build a ship, don't drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea Antoine de Saint Exupery Current Builds Bluenose - Model Shipways - 1:64 Scale Fair American - Model Shipways - 1:48 Scale HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Group Build On Deck Guns of History Naval Smoothbore Deck Gun - 1:24 Scale Finished Builds Mare Nostrum - Artesania Latina - 1:35 Scale Guns of History Carronade - Model Shipways - 1:24 Scale Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhermann Posted March 22, 2023 Share #254 Posted March 22, 2023 Responding to the February 18th post (don't know how I missed it at the time), I realized after I had installed my chanplates that they actually sit flush with the hull and not proud of it as I did them. I think this may inform the decision whether you include them or not - they would not be very apparent at the 1:64 scale we are building at. Good luck with figuring out the sails, there are too many options to think about and it has brought my build to a halt for years. Cloth sails in general are too thick to maintain scale. I am considering doing them anyway, or maybe doing paper strips to build each sail panel by panel. In any case making photocopies is a good idea! Your work is looking very good to this Bluenose builder! Bob GGibson 1 Quote Current build -- MS Bluenose Future build - MS Flying Fish "A ship is safe in harbor, but that's not what ships are for." - William G. T. Shedd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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