Jim Rogers Posted October 18, 2017 #1 Posted October 18, 2017 I have finished my plate jig and am getting ready to punch plates. Has anyone a count on approximately how many plates per side? Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut.
Jim Rogers Posted October 19, 2017 Author #2 Posted October 19, 2017 Port plate punch. Canute, mtaylor, AON and 3 others 6 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut.
ca.shipwright Posted November 12, 2017 #3 Posted November 12, 2017 NICE! What ever the count, consider yourself lucky. I'm doing a 1:78 HMS Victory and they supplied 3000 plates and I don't know if this will be enough. Talk about the never ending story......... Regards Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote ca.shipwright Michael Zemmel Midlothian. VA http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11562-hmb-endeavour-by-cashipwright-corel-160/ http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/15329-hms-victory-by-cashipwright-panart-art-738-1:78/ "Buy all your toys before you retire"
kscadman Posted November 12, 2017 #4 Posted November 12, 2017 Hi Jim, considering I've been thru it, your answer is too many. I divided it up and cut roughly 100 per side and applied them then started the process over. It may not be the best way of doing it but it took some of the monotony out of it. Richard Jim Rogers, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Current Build - U.S. Syren 2nd Build - HMS Bounty Launch When organizing your thoughts, never use the Dewey Decimal system.
Jim Rogers Posted December 19, 2017 Author #5 Posted December 19, 2017 For those that care I ended up with 980. Now to weather them MEDDO, Geoff Matson, Peter Bloemendaal and 6 others 9 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut.
BANYAN Posted December 19, 2017 #6 Posted December 19, 2017 Nice job Jim, the plating looks great. cheers Pat Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
rwiederrich Posted December 19, 2017 #7 Posted December 19, 2017 Good job Jim. Plating is a tedious job and your work paid off...looks great. Copper tarnished with a green/white film...were Muntz metal that was used on my clipper ships turned more of a metallic brownish color. Supper job! Rob Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
Jim Rogers Posted December 30, 2017 Author #8 Posted December 30, 2017 I found this patina product on Amazon. Works great. Just brush it on. May take a few coats but so worth it Ryland Craze, fnkershner, Geoff Matson and 3 others 6 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut.
fnkershner Posted December 30, 2017 #9 Posted December 30, 2017 Jim - Wow nice job. You are just ahead of me. perfect you can help answer some questions. first how much of the roll of copper tape did you use? I Chuck's practicum he mentions that you may need part of a 2nd roll. @nd question - How did you cover the Keel? Fold the plate over and let it be covered by the false keel? Since we live so close to each other I should send you the cost of the ferry. come join us pleas at our next meeting. You would be a huge boost to me. Canute 1 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
Jim Rogers Posted December 30, 2017 Author #10 Posted December 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, fnkershner said: Jim - Wow nice job. You are just ahead of me. perfect you can help answer some questions. first how much of the roll of copper tape did you use? I Chuck's practicum he mentions that you may need part of a 2nd roll. @nd question - How did you cover the Keel? Fold the plate over and let it be covered by the false keel? Since we live so close to each other I should send you the cost of the ferry. come join us pleas at our next meeting. You would be a huge boost to me. I used about 3/4 of the roll. I started doing individual plates but couldn’t keep it exactly lined up so I removed it all, maybe 10 plates. So I did 6 inch sections. The pattern makes individual plates uneeded in my opinion. For the keel I just folded the section of plate over. I drilled and pegged the false keel over the plate. For the dressing band I did both Port and starboard patterns on each plate. Looks great. I bought individual plates from Model Shipways for the dressing band but (1) they were fat and chunky, (2) looked phony (3) you had to glue them on so probably messy. I wish you would have mentioned the waterway issue about two weeks ago. I am not tearing every out to fix it. Nobody knows but me anyhow so what the heck. Any time you get some time off you are more than welcome to come over to the Goat Locker Shipyard and Rock n’ Roll Emporium. Canute, fnkershner and mtaylor 3 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut.
fnkershner Posted December 30, 2017 #11 Posted December 30, 2017 You have a Date my friend! I will send you an email. I am currently building my copper plate stamp. 3 of my pins just broke off inside the wood. I have to start over. I might just take a look at yours to see how I can do better. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
Jim Rogers Posted December 30, 2017 Author #12 Posted December 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, fnkershner said: You have a Date my friend! I will send you an email. I am currently building my copper plate stamp. 3 of my pins just broke off inside the wood. I have to start over. I might just take a look at yours to see how I can do better. You can use mine if you like. mtaylor, Canute and fnkershner 3 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut.
rwiederrich Posted January 2, 2018 #13 Posted January 2, 2018 Goat Locker shipyard? I built a rolling gig that I simply rolled foil sections with imprinting material to form the individual plates in 6 inch sections. I then painted the finished copper with metallic paint to seal them and to age them to look like oxidized Muntz Metal. Rob phebe, Canute, Geoff Matson and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
Jim Rogers Posted January 2, 2018 Author #14 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) The term goat locker takes its origins from wooden ship sailing times, when goats were kept aboard ship. The goat was used for its ability to consume nearly all forms of refuse, and produce milk for the crew. The quarters for the goat were traditionally in the chief petty officer mess, which inherited the moniker "goat locker". In modern times, 'goat locker' represents any gathering place, on- or off-ship, where chief petty officers hold private functions. Edited January 2, 2018 by Jim Rogers Canute, mtaylor and Nirvana 3 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut.
Jim Rogers Posted January 2, 2018 Author #15 Posted January 2, 2018 That is a very nice jig. Does a great job. How did you make it? Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut.
rwiederrich Posted January 2, 2018 #16 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) I used a roller with wire mesh and a strip of sanding matrix...all compressed in the roller and out comes the finished plates. For my scale it worked. Edited January 2, 2018 by rwiederrich Canute, Ryland Craze, phebe and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
rwiederrich Posted January 2, 2018 #17 Posted January 2, 2018 I originally left it shinny copper..it looked awful. Painting/sealing it with metallic paint created the desired oxidized muntz metal look. Rob mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
Jim Rogers Posted January 2, 2018 Author #18 Posted January 2, 2018 I hated the shiny copper look myself. I thought about painting but went with the patina. Yours looks great. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut.
rwiederrich Posted January 2, 2018 #19 Posted January 2, 2018 It depends on the era of ship you are building. Copper oxidizes whitish green..Muntz metal turns a metallic/brown when oxidized. Rob Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts."
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