makeing sense of rigging plan abbreviations ?

[spongbob]

Ive been trying to figgure out plan designations and i suppose there are varied and unique but i haven't followed several plans so my question henceforth"?

    Trying to make sense or main mast mitzen mast and rear mast as possibly abbreviated on a set of plans . there are designations like MA 5, MA 4, MA7, & MA 1 i take to be the main mast Next i see TR 1 i think is the formast bottom section with TR 2 nd TR 3 being the top 2 sections of what probably the front mast on frigate essex plan . a three section mast designated ME1, ME2 and ME3 may be the yards for the main mast ME may be the rear mast. Has any one had such designations on a plan that would agree with my believe "?...this leaves me the conclusion that TR is formast but it could be mitzen any one certain could answer possibly thanks

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[Jim Rogers]

What’s the  native language of the manufacturer? Probably abbreviations in the Native language. But that is just a guess.

[mtaylor]

Not sure if this can help but do you have any other plans for the rigging? These all appear to be the same sheet.  I'm winging it but B0 appears to be the bowsprit.  The rest appear to be as you sorted out based on size. 

 

Edit:  Appears I was staring at the prints when Jim posted.  Aeropiccola is Italian so that might help.  If the text is in Italian, then Google Translate is your friend... but with the usual caveats that it's not a perfect translation.

Edited March 22, 2018 by mtaylor

[JerseyCity Frankie]

The key to the spar identity codes is provided for you in the lower left corner of this plan, where there is a simplified diagram of all the spars and their locations in relationship to each other.

Edited March 22, 2018 by JerseyCity Frankie

[popeye2sea]

The designations are from the Italian words :

 

Main mast - Albero Maestro

Fore mast - Albero Prodiero

Mizzen mast - Albero Mezzana

Bowsprit - Bompresso

 

The underlined first two letters are the designation (albero translates to mast)

 

Regards,

[spongbob]

• the TR designated mast and yards i take it now after looking again must certainly be the back mitzen for certain ? that is the iffy one of the three thanks for help and info what plans i have are printed off and hard to see the small numbers im thinking the 80 1 80 2 80 3 80 4 are the jibb spare or whatever its called this isnt that easy some of my plans are tracings from pc  screen, some where pdf print-offs so minimally effective .some where lost some are scattered long story shot planning same problem in different ways .Speaking of witch my plans probably are in english the same picture i snaged to use hear (to facilitate) is tuthfuly italian or such and yes this does partially ex plane half of what i can gather .   thanks for taking a look and maybe i can get a concept to start somewhere.I haven't worked much on ship this past year as i have been real busy

Edited March 23, 2018 by spongbob

[spongbob]

Any body use aluminum to make those couple-rs that connect the different sections of mast" together seem's like ply would snap it the ever got bumped (hypothetical) not if you used like a bunch of 1/16 ply sandwiched 6 times ,ect. with super glue you know the pieces that are rectangular with 2 holes and offset the mast sections .il check later gotta get some rest...

[trippwj]

I have the Aeropicola Essex plans here - will look for them this evening and see what the "Tr" stands for.

 

 

[popeye2sea]

Spongbob wrote:  the TR designated mast and yards i take it now after looking again must certainly be the back mitzen for certain

 

Spongbob,  The TR  is a poorly printed PR and it stands for the foremast. This is confirmed by the diagram in the lower left corner of your plans.  The ME labeled spars are for the mizzen.  That's the one that has a gaff and a boom.

 

Look at that diagram in the lower left.  Picture it as a complete ship viewed from the port side.  Starting on the left, the spar that points at an angle to the left is the bowsprit.  Next to it on the right is the fore mast, followed by the main and then the mizzen with its gaff and boom on the far right.

 

Spongbob wrote: im thinking the 80 1 80 2 80 3 80 4 are the jibb spare

 

 

The ones you are calling 80-1, 80-2, etc.  are actually labelled BO and that is definitely the bowsprit and jib

 

Regards,

Edited March 23, 2018 by popeye2sea