questions for Artesania Marie-Jeanne Fishing Boat

[legend]

Hello All ,

I am not new to modelling and have even built a boat from scratch without the use of plans etc . However having renewed my interest in model building , I am purchasing the Artesania Latina Marie - Jeanne French Tuna Fishing Boat in use from 1900 to 1950 but have a few questions .

First of all can anyone who has built this model tell me if it is double skinned / planked ? and does this just mean you are giving the hull a greater strength ? or are there other advantages ?

Second is it possible to make this model remote controlled ?

Or even better , could you use it as a sailing model if using titebond 3 waterproof glue on all parts and coating the hull with a decent Yacht varnish or a good few coats of paint ? Also what is best for ballast ?

Thanks for any help with this .

Mike

[GrandpaPhil]

Double planking gives you have a good even surface to put the second layer of planking on.

 

I haven't built it, but according to Nature Coast Hobby Shop, it's double plank on bulkhead.

[popeye the sailor]

I have the kit as well.....I've looked at the instructions,  but that was a while ago.   double planking is up the the modeler really.......I've only build static models,  but if I can get the hull planked good with one layer,  then I'm good with it.  there's no question that the hull would be stronger,  since it means a thicker skin........and water tight,  since you'd be overlapping the underlying plank seams.  but by sealing the inner hull,  you'd be accomplishing the same goal,  and using less wood in the process.  you could even go with thicker planking...ie, 2 mm.   I think that any model can be built remote control if you want........it depends on how much modifying you want to do.   the hardware can serve as some of the ballast......set up mid ship.......the rest can be lead weight or small rocks..   I may be just skipp'in rocks,  but it would be good to start a build log if you intend on doing something tripped out like this.   it could even be fun   

[legend]

Thanks for your advice and ideas Popeye .

[legend]

Thanks also Grandpaphil

[Jack12477]

If I remember mine correctly the 2nd planking is a .5 mm thin veneer walnut. Since I painted mine I left off the 2nd planking, kept the wood for another project. Link to my build log is in my signature below.  It is a nice kit to build and comes out nice looking

[mtaylor]

Mike,

There's an index at the top of Kit Build Log area that lists 3 builds for this ship.  I'm attaching a copy of the kit index for you.

 

It looks like 2 are in work and one is finished.  I hope that looking over the logs will answer some of the questions and more.

 

Wooden Ships.pdf

[legend]

Hello All, 

I've now found a source in the UK for pearwood strip and have decided to take some time in building the Artesania "" Marie_Jeanne" and completing the outer Hull planking with Pearwood with a clear varnish finish (unless any member can suggest a more professional ideally waterproof finish?) 

My Question is can anyone tell me what width planking (in mm) would best represent the original planking on this boat and how many metres/feet I would need to complete it? 

Could you also suggest a nice planking for the decking that would complement the pearwood? 

With thanks

Mike

[Jack12477]

Mike,

 

Fortunately I did not toss out my original kit plans for Mare Jeanne.  The hull planking is 1.5 x 5 x 400 mm (quantity 40); deck planking is 0.6 x 5 x 400 mm (quantity 22).  Plank sheer is 1.5 x 5 x 230 mm.  The kit comes with Ramin wood for these pieces.  Hope this helps.

 

Jack

[mtdoramike]

First off, the only reason for a second layer of planking on a model is pure looks of the finished product for those who aren't really great at planking and wind up using a ton of putty. Secondly, if your goal is to make this model sea worthy, then your best bet is to use fiberglass cloth both inside and out and coated with 3-4 coats of fiberglass resin thinned out a bit to help it lay smooth while curing. You can use any glue you want whether it be water proof or not, some use bondo putty like they use for cars. Once it's covered with cloth and resin, you could probably drop it off a bridge and it would still float. I usually use 2oz for smaller boats and 4oz cloth for 36" or larger. You can make any boat R/C as long as you have room for the running gear.

 

 

mike   

Edited July 25, 2019 by mtdoramike

[legend]

Hello All, 

Just a follow on from the actual Hull planking process. I intend to leave the top third of the Hull fine sanded and oiled or varnished in natural wood, the next third (middle section) an Ivory colour (Acrylic or ename?), and the bottom third in crimson (Acrylic or enamel?). My question is acrylic or enamel? Reasons and are both waterproof? When dry. Can both be varnished over using yacht varnish? 

Thanks for your time

Mike

[legend]

Hello All, 

Further to my last message, as I want to take my time and make the Marie-Jeanne as authentic looking as possible, can anyone please suggest any further deck furniture to make it look busy and more like a working fishing boat. 

Thanks

Mike

[legend]

Hello Jack ,

I have just bought an Artesania Latina "Marie Jeanne" from an ebay seller (who has a good selling rating ) and when Ive started to put the model together have only just realised that it is a lot smaller than the 565mm length stated for this model  . The keel measures around 325mm in length !!!

Was there a smaller model version made by Artesania Latina  ?

Mike

[Jolley Roger]

Add some fish! ☺️

[Jack12477]

6 hours ago, legend said:

 Was there a smaller model version made by Artesania Latina  ?

Not that I am aware of. The keel on my finished model measures about 10 inches, the bow to stern measurement at the gunwale is about 16 inches. (Sorry I'm not metric literate ) The box my kit came in gives the dimensions as length 565 mm (22 1/4 inches), height 495 mm (19 1/2 "), beam 115 mm (4 1/2 "), which matches your model kit..

[legend]

Great idea jolly Roger! 

Anyone how much weight in bags of sand  I would have to use as ballast (for sailing) the Marie Jeanne, relative to the size of the model? 

Thanks

Mike

[amateur]

I can't tell. I have it in the Billing Boats version (old one), and it seems to me quite  a high rig , compared to the hull depth. I guess that you need to build light, and add a considerable weight in an extended keel to get her a stable sailer. (If ever you get a ship this size Rc controlled, and sailing). Most of AL kits are designed as static model, so you may have to do some serious rebuilding, and resawing frames and fales keel)

 

Jan