Duanelaker Posted December 22, 2019 #1 Posted December 22, 2019 (edited) This will be my first attempt at planking “correctly”. I did complete AL Bounty Jolly which was planked, but in a strange way (I followed the instructions). I have quite a few projects in the shipyard that are POB and POF so I’d rather start with a less expensive kit and fail then ruin the kits I have already purchased in hopes of learning this hobby. I will be taking this build slow as I have other logs going on, as well as a stressful job and a four year old that I chase around on the weekends. My plan will be to finish this half hull with a stained hull...I’m also contemplating coppering the hull as a learning experience as well. Edited December 23, 2019 by Duanelaker bruce d and EricWilliamMarshall 2 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Duanelaker Posted December 22, 2019 Author #2 Posted December 22, 2019 I opened the kit.... i glued the build log to foam core board. (I used rubber cement and didn’t have any issues) I then began separating the plywood pieces from the cut out Now it’s back to rereading everything... JayCub, EricWilliamMarshall, yvesvidal and 1 other 4 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Heronguy Posted December 22, 2019 #3 Posted December 22, 2019 I’ll look forward to sharing experiences on this project. Slow is my mantra as well. It should be fun. Duanelaker 1 Quote Doug Current Builds: Bluenose II - AL / Krabbenkutter / Prince de Neufchatel / Essex Cross-section / Syren / Barque Stefano / Winchelsea / Half Hull / Maria HF31 - Dusek / Bandirma - Turkmodel On the Shelf: Santisima Trinidad and Cross Section / HMS Cutter Alert / Tender AVOS / Confederacy Suspended Build: Bluenose II - Billing Boats Nr 600
Duanelaker Posted December 22, 2019 Author #4 Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Heronguy said: I’ll look forward to sharing experiences on this project. Slow is my mantra as well. It should be fun. I’m hoping by end of the week I will have everything frame work wise mounted. But I have my doubts. It’ll be nice having multiple logs to watch as this unfolds. Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Duanelaker Posted December 24, 2019 Author #5 Posted December 24, 2019 So I read and re-read and have done as such. So far things have gone very well. i have also made a cheat sheet so I can remember the terminology as I go... First question is what if anything is done to the high spot on the keel (shown pointing with pencil)? It says to fit the stemson and this piece interferes, I would think by modifying the stemson it would be weak? Does what I did look acceptable? It fits pretty nice. second question would be how deep does the rabbit get cut? See pencil drawing below.... bruce d, yvesvidal, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Duanelaker Posted December 25, 2019 Author #6 Posted December 25, 2019 So moving along...I will agree with others that have stated that doing this build has really forced me to get an understanding for the rabbet and how the planking works...now if only I can actually gain the skill to do it. so I glued the keel, keelson, stem, stemson and started framing. GrandpaPhil, yvesvidal, bruce d and 1 other 4 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Duanelaker Posted December 25, 2019 Author #7 Posted December 25, 2019 First question was wether or not DF was what the drawing template called as 0...I’m guessing yes because it was the only one left and it had a center mark on it... instead of cutting out more of the keelson I opted to cut out the frames a little bit so the went to the rabbet. I also screwed around with different clamping methods. One problem I had was that the foam board was not perfectly flat. EricWilliamMarshall, bruce d, yvesvidal and 1 other 4 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Duanelaker Posted December 25, 2019 Author #8 Posted December 25, 2019 I began adding the additional spacers/framing and it work out nicely. I also added another row on the bottom of the frames to the stern. GrandpaPhil, bruce d, EricWilliamMarshall and 2 others 5 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Duanelaker Posted December 25, 2019 Author #9 Posted December 25, 2019 I marked out where the bow framing goes...Not sure the best way to do it, but I did end up splitting the stem post, but since it was glued to everything else it wasn’t a big deal. I was not sure what the best way to cut it out was, but I cut to deep and fast with a razor. tarbrush, EricWilliamMarshall, bruce d and 3 others 6 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Duanelaker Posted December 25, 2019 Author #10 Posted December 25, 2019 And that is where we stand. Merry Christmas to everyone that happens upon this build log. 🌲 🎁 EricWilliamMarshall, yvesvidal and bruce d 3 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Duanelaker Posted December 27, 2019 Author #11 Posted December 27, 2019 The front was a little difficult to brace, thinking about putting this extra piece of wood In as shown... I have begun fairing the hull...wish me luck lol. bruce d, GrandpaPhil, yvesvidal and 1 other 4 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Javlin Posted December 27, 2019 #12 Posted December 27, 2019 I am watching David and now you are the teacher I have the Baltimore II framed and faired and got scared Kevin bruce d 1 Quote
Duanelaker Posted December 27, 2019 Author #13 Posted December 27, 2019 I have quite a few models in my stash that I bought, then thought maybe this would be easier, no that one, or this one lol I figured I would try this exercise before ruining a kit. Also walking through each step as Per instructed has really given me an understanding as to what and why....now I’m working on the how. I’m also doing as instructed and sanding for 15-20 minutes then onto something else and then come back to it....hopefully tomorrow I get it to 95%. Also I appreciate the support but I am no teacher 😝 bruce d and EricWilliamMarshall 2 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Javlin Posted December 27, 2019 #14 Posted December 27, 2019 If a mistake is made I will learn the semester just started kevin Duanelaker 1 Quote
Duanelaker Posted December 29, 2019 Author #15 Posted December 29, 2019 I did not get much further...but it appears I did a nice job on the rabbet 😝 im also noticing per the picture of the finish hull that there is much more fairing to do on the bow toward the keel the stern I ended up using a sanding attachment on the proxxon rotary tool, I like this tool better then my Dremel as it is lighter, goes at a slower speed and doesn’t stall unless a ridiculous amount of force is put onto it. It’s amazing the curves this ship has... yvesvidal, Edwardkenway, JayCub and 4 others 7 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Javlin Posted December 29, 2019 #16 Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) Looking good David the rabbit is deeper and cleaner at the bow?and looks to fade a little elsewhere? Thanks Kevin Edited December 29, 2019 by Javlin Quote
Duanelaker Posted December 29, 2019 Author #17 Posted December 29, 2019 14 hours ago, Javlin said: Looking good David the rabbit is deeper and cleaner at the bow?and looks to fade a little elsewhere? Thanks Kevin Kevin, the rabbit intersects perpendicular to the bow and as it retreats aft the angle changes until it is flat at the stern almost. The depth is similar as it is as deep as the thickness of a plank. Javlin and bruce d 2 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Duanelaker Posted December 31, 2019 Author #18 Posted December 31, 2019 I faired and faired and faired some more...then I realized I faired to much lol. There aren’t great pictures showing you where or how the counter gets connected. It’s an odd shape and really doesn’t look the same as the instructions show, which I’m assuming could be picture angle. However I did sand the aft of the last frame which I wasn’t supposed to. So lesson number one is don’t do the following... bruce d, GrandpaPhil and EricWilliamMarshall 3 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Duanelaker Posted December 31, 2019 Author #19 Posted December 31, 2019 Can’t get upset about it, I figure I will fix it when I get to it. While fairing I did put tape down to protect the keel, which I think was a good idea. GrandpaPhil, Ryland Craze, bruce d and 1 other 4 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Duanelaker Posted December 31, 2019 Author #20 Posted December 31, 2019 On a positive note, I laid down my first plank...and I thought it went well. bruce d, Ryland Craze, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Javlin Posted December 31, 2019 #21 Posted December 31, 2019 Is there a said point to start?I sometimes see builds with a bottom plank and something in the middle(gunwale?).Russ told me to plank it since it will get painted in the end.I will keep watching. Kevin Quote
Duanelaker Posted December 31, 2019 Author #22 Posted December 31, 2019 15 hours ago, Javlin said: Is there a said point to start?I sometimes see builds with a bottom plank and something in the middle(gunwale?).Russ told me to plank it since it will get painted in the end.I will keep watching. Kevin I am just following the instructions that came with the kit, however it is mentioned that the gunwale should be laid out first. You can see where I marked it out. It mentions coming back to install later. I’m not sure there is any right or wrong way, whatever works for you I would think! Javlin and EricWilliamMarshall 2 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 3, 2020 #23 Posted April 3, 2020 How did you cut the rabbit? I looks very nice. Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
Duanelaker Posted April 3, 2020 Author #24 Posted April 3, 2020 13 hours ago, EricWilliamMarshall said: How did you cut the rabbit? I looks very nice. Sadly, I don't honestly remember...I do remember marking lines on the top and side as a marker, and I believe I might have used a small plane on the keel, and I believe I used a dremel tool on the curved piece of the keel towards the front. EricWilliamMarshall 1 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
EricWilliamMarshall Posted April 3, 2020 #25 Posted April 3, 2020 thanks Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
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