Jorge Hedges Posted May 25, 2020 Share #1 Posted May 25, 2020 Hello All! Wondering if there are deadeyes or other rigging gear for 1:106 scale ships, specifically the La Nina (Columbus era) type ship. Just because I like to torture myself.... Thanks! Jorge mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted May 25, 2020 Share #2 Posted May 25, 2020 What are the full size measurements? You are talking about the triangular shape deadeyes? Those would be fairly easy to scratch. mtaylor 1 Quote Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Hedges Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted May 25, 2020 55 minutes ago, Gregory said: What are the full size measurements? You are talking about the triangular shape deadeyes? Those would be fairly easy to scratch. I guess they are. The postman just left me a book, so will check to see if it helps. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Hedges Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share #4 Posted May 28, 2020 So, not much info found to date after searching for a couple of days on and off.... anyone have any image or picture of how the caravel deadeyes were rigged, and what type was used? I've see some kind of boxy ones, and others have mentioned the heart type. Also, in a Caravel, would they be tied down to a cleat, or some other fixing type was used? Not sure which one would be more period correct, and would love to improve the look of the mini-Mamoli kit. I am set for building them (as the size will be an issue for purchasing purposes), and would kike to rig correctly, so if any feedback/image can be shared with me, it will be greatly appreciated! Pics below are the best that I have found... Thanks, Jorge mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Hedges Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted May 28, 2020 Here's the start of the scratch ones... I think I have to reduce it a tad, and I definitely have to open the center a bit more. I think I will coat them in CA super thin for penetration, and make them stronger for the center work. Then I can sand and tint... or maybe tint first, CA coat, work, and sand... test phase! Any recommendations welcome! Regards, Jorge mtaylor and Gregory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted May 28, 2020 Share #6 Posted May 28, 2020 Great start.. Do you have some square stock that you could shape on the long axis, then slice off pieces? Might go a little faster.. Here is an Image from Anatomy of the Ship - The Ships of Christoper Columbus If you need more info from the book, I will try to find it for you. mtaylor and Jorge Hedges 2 Quote Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorge Hedges Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted May 29, 2020 Thanks for the square stock tip... I definitely have some. And great image of the Anatomy of the Ship - The Ships of Christoper Columbus. Thank you tons! Jorge mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotlocker Posted June 2, 2020 Share #8 Posted June 2, 2020 Jorge, I'd have sent this sooner but for some reason, because of the site or my computer, I couldn't write any text. That being said, I wanted to send some photos of the replica tall ships Nina and Pinta that my wife and I toured back in 2013. I hope they'll help with your rigging questions! Louie da fly and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted June 21, 2020 Share #9 Posted June 21, 2020 That's a particularly nice looking replica, Shotlocker! And your photos are beautifully detailed. I was just looking through my collection of contemporary illustrations of caravels, but unfortunately none of them are detailed enough to show the deadeyes. However, carracks (such as the Santa Maria) are contemporary with them and might cast a bit of light on the subject. The nearest Spanish carrack in date to Nina is this, dated 1475 - and it should be remembered that in 1492 the ships Columbus was given were rather old so this should be pretty close to the right date. It's from the votive screen at the church of San Pedro in Zumaia, commissioned by Captain Juan Martinez de Mendaro to commemorate his 1475 victory over a Portuguese fleet in the Strait of Gibraltar - see https://www.diariovasco.com/costa-urola/zumaia/tabla-votiva-parroquia-20191215002604-ntvo.html (quite a few pop-ups, unfortunately). This is the best image I can find, but it seems to show rounded triangular "heart" deadeyes similar to the ones you're making so it's likely you're on the right track. mtaylor 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaddoc Posted June 21, 2020 Share #10 Posted June 21, 2020 Maybe if you laminate some very thin strips of wood, your piece will be stronger and will not break along the grain. mtaylor 1 Quote Current projects: 21' Fisherman's Launch - plans by Howard Chapelle Completed projects: 21' Yawl Longboat - plans from the National Maritime Museum Deben 5 tonner - a Whisstock yard design 24' exploration gaff rigged ketch - a Tad Roberts design 15' knockabout sailing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wefalck Posted June 21, 2020 Share #11 Posted June 21, 2020 Incidentally, at such small scales real wood often is not the best choice because the wood is too prominent and/or the wood is not stable enough at small sizes, particularly, if one does not have access to hardwood, such as boxwood. Therefore, it might be better to use metal or plastics and paint these to simulate wood. Hence, it may be harder, but it may be a good idea to cut the hearts in question from brass or aluminium sheet. Styrene might be too soft, but acrylic glass should work as well. Bob Cleek, Roger Pellett, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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