Cutty Sark by Nenad

[klimi]

Hello Nenad, is nice to see your progress. In summer i was a little bit busy and i just checked a few topics here. Mostly i was looking on the pics and i like, that you improve Cutty Sark on the highest level what is possible for you to do. I´m lazy to read all replies now, but i gonna follow your adds. Good luck 

 

Pavel 

[NenadM]

Comedy "CS by NM" act II part 1

Rear deck removed, strips for raise deck added (2mm)  extra weight added, starting to make new rear deck

Edited October 17, 2013 by Nenad M

[rfolsom]

Nenad; 

 

Reworking is a pain in the @##, but the good thing is you'll be able to do it in half the time, with twice the results!!

 

And then:   Hmmmm... hmmmmm...

[NenadM]

Comedy "CS by NM" act II part 2

 

Rear deck almost done. And the second finger cutted by surgical scalpel (I was pretty coiled yesterday)

 

 

the edge of the deck is covered with mahogany veneer, with the idea to simulate the baseboard batten that exists under the fence at the rear of the deck. Mounting of this batten is subsequently set for me as impossible, that fence on rear deck of my model have to be thick 1.5-2 mm, which means that the this strip should be about 1 mm wide

 

Edited October 18, 2013 by Nenad M

[SpencerC]

Don't you already have that baseboard ? Isn't that the brown strip that goes around the whole thing in the picture above the baseboard picture?

[NenadM]

Thx for your interesting Spencer

 

Baseboard is under rear deck planking ( made of nut or "nut" slat 2mm x 50mm x ... I bought it without necessary previewing what I buy - full of holes and damage - three parts horizontal glued together before planking). Planking is done with 0,5 mm veneer, and baseboard horizontal line was 0,5 mm under line of planks. So I added this half-ring of veneer I had in workshop ( 30 years old mahogany veneer very dry and brittle)  to get same horizontal line. I was thinking to add another layer to get this layer little higher than planking, but I am not sure if I can do it precise enough to look nice after mounting bulwark, so I simulate it

 

Nenad

Edited October 18, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

Comedy "CS by NM" act II part 3

 

Panels removed    , rear deck mounted  , start fixing bulwarks ( hmmmm) preparing them for something better than them  were

 

(Robert, I am watching you)

 

 

 

All fingers are on their place today, except they are covered with superglue and putty

 

22:30h,  and no even one  f...g cigarette in home (nor Admiral, nor my son) ....

 

Viva la Joyetech e-cigarette !!!!!!

Edited October 24, 2013 by Nenad M

[popeye the sailor]

so,  the game plan starts with replanking the deck?

[u21rw87]

Nenad, good luck with quitting smoking. I have 77 day using an EVOD e-cig.

 

Rich from Baltimore

[sonicmcdude]

Awesome progress Nenad! You made her in to beauty. I'm interested about the plans from Tehnodidakta are they available today? Thanks for sharing your build. Pozdrav 

[rfolsom]

Nenad,  Looking good!  What's your plans for planking the main deck?  Will you try to salvage it, or start over?

[NenadM]

so,  the game plan starts with replanking the deck?

 

Something like that, Popeye. Idea is next

 

1. Assume lines and weight of bulwarks

2. Redo white panels

3. Main rails

4. Design and mount waterways

5. Re-plank deck  

 

I am not really sure about order. The previous 7 months teach me that if I do something in reverse order, irrevocably run in to the problem on some of next stages. I have to use my head for something other than to break the barriers

[NenadM]

Nenad, good luck with quitting smoking. I have 77 day using an EVOD e-cig.

 

Rich from Baltimore

 

When I was in elementary school ( 14 years) it seems to be cool and to be more interesting for girls to smoke ( ?!?!?!?). So, I am smoking about 41 years, and today I am addicted to cigarettes, more than two boxes a day. Over a 2 years ago, I decided to smoke extra light cigaretts ( Winstom white, 1mg tar, 0,1mg nicotine, 2 mg carbon monoxide). Over a year ago, start using e-cigaretts with idea to reduce real cigaretts, and it was a good idea ( over a box a day today). I hope one day I`ll throw them at all ................

 

In office when I am writing something, it works well, on meetings too, on Court nobody is smoking, on the evening when watch TV, while socializing with friends, but, when I work something with my hands, especially if it is physically demanding, a cigarette is cigarette. I like to work in garden and around the house, to make things of my own, and had Admiral with inexhaustible extract ideas about garden and yard, so ...  resting with cigarette and coffee is a joy ... 

 

On the other side, good is, when work in shipyard, I can not smoke more than 1-2 cigarete during 1-3 working hours

Edited October 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

Awesome progress Nenad! You made her in to beauty. I'm interested about the plans from Tehnodidakta are they available today? Thanks for sharing your build. Pozdrav 

 

Hvala, hvala Sinan

 

For Tehnodidakta plans you can ask folks who do by them ( there are few Braceras on MSW). As far as I know, I am one and only with TD plans of CS, but on Internet you can find better plans of CS to assume better model. If you do not hate or even bothering, dive a little deeper in my topic to see why Tehnodidakta plans are no good (at least for CS, I do not know about Jadran etc). If you are stil interested, send me a PM, there are some folks in Kraljevo who sold "revised" Tehnodidakta plans

 

Pozdrav

Edited October 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

Nenad,  Looking good!  What's your plans for planking the main deck?  Will you try to salvage it, or start over?

 

Thx Bob

 

Unlike you, I'm not sure that it looks good (I'm not satisfied). Right now during sending bulwarks, I am thinking about first to make waterway, then remake bulwarks with white panels, then main rail, then stanchions (?) and after ( or maybe earlier ???)  replanking whole main deck with moldings on edge near waterway 2x5mm, and further 2x2 or 2x3 mm . The order is not enough clear to me for now.

 

(Un)fortunately, this weekend I did not go to workshop, because I had the huge work in yard. Creative imprisonment in setting heavy marble slabs and forming the basis for the garden table. My hands does not exist any more, they are painfully, full of cuts, every single muscle in the body is screaming ... 

 

Our Admirals ... and their ideas ... ( not to be dishonest, I like this, too)

 

If I live and survive to the evening, I plan to keep work on CS ...

 

Edited October 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[rfolsom]

Yes, Nenad, I do envy you...  I live in an apartment, with no yard to do as I want;  I would love to have a garden, because one of my other hobbies is cooking.

 

Is your CS 1:96 scale?  I seem to remember seeing that in an earlier post.  I planked my deck with 1/16" wide planks, which is roughly 5" at 1:76.8 scale.

[rfolsom]

By the way, good luck in quitting smoking;  I never started but my Dad smoked 6 packs per day, and Mom smoked 4.  So I know if I had started I probably never would have stopped; and Mom and Dad are no longer here...

[NenadM]

Yes, Nenad, I do envy you...  I live in an apartment, with no yard to do as I want;  I would love to have a garden, because one of my other hobbies is cooking.

 

Is your CS 1:96 scale?  I seem to remember seeing that in an earlier post.  I planked my deck with 1/16" wide planks, which is roughly 5" at 1:76.8 scale.

 

I think this is 1:96 or similar, I am not sure, trust in my eyes and its power of observation and compare scale ...

Sorry for your parents. My are still alive (80, and 87) but separated last 6 years ( madness of old age) ...

For cooking hobby. I have Admiral and her brilliant ideas, and a daughter and son who support her in that. Personaly, I like traditional food, but them like sea food particularly sea fruits ( yuck !!!). You can not imagine what different meals we eat  when Admiral get her caught cooking. 

To be honest, two years ago I was in Romania, Bukurest in lebanon restaurant, and I was very delighted. Five years ago in Kitten, Bulgaria, I was in phenomenal Chinese restaurant ...

 

But, pig is pig, chicken is chicken, and cow is cow. If I can chose  

 

Edited October 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[rfolsom]

Nenad;  Not to diverge from the subject at hand, but, if you have any authentic recipes from your country, (without seafood)  I'd love to try them.  I regularly cook Indian, Chinese, Vietnamese, some Italian and French...  I'm a born and raised Nebraskan which means beef and corn; which I like, but it's boring...

 

And why would a land-locked Nebraskan have a fascination with tall ships?  From an early age?  (Third grade, I think)...

 

Bob

[NenadM]

Bob

 

see at 

 

http://www.serbiancookbook.com/

 

There is great difficult to translate  receipts from Serbian with Google. This is a food, and wrong translation can change taste. 

Edited October 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

Tonight I put some extra weight under deck, and CS now have decent weight. This hatchway ( one of the three on main deck) will be fully covered by putty and by re-planking.

 

 

But then, I discover wrong fore-aft angle of glued rear deck. And a MOUNTINE at the place where meet rear deck and bulwark, so panels will jump to the sky, and line of rear deck will look half-broken !!!! Another surgery need to be done.

 

 

 

When I fix it ( I hope), I am afraid that the stern will go to the sky, and deep surgery of stern itself will be needed. I am really shamed, and will not picture it as long as I fix it ( still hope)

 

On the other side, bulwark lines ( line between and angle of bulwarks and main deck) come along nicely. As during the painting of the house, when the chisel is placed on the walls - one line draws another line properly

 

Geometry is incompatible with impatience, WILL YOU, NENAD, LEARN IT SOMEDAY ?!?!?!?

 

Obviously paying tribute to understatement plans TEHNODIDAKTA and to my incandescent head

 

In the picture below (Campbell plans) is shown elevation of the deck at  bulwarks line (red lines), which obviously must be taken into account on time, and my old plans in this regard are inadequate - these lines are formed by additions to the ribs (???) and that extensions on ribs do not follow this line of apparent. Particularly when ribs and hull are not laser cuted

 

 

You can also see the three vertical blue lines that show the vertical height of the bulwarks on main deck WHICH IS NOT the same circuit with the front deck over the height of the middle of the ship and the amount of the compound to the rear deck (or Campbell's plans are inaccurate?)

 

Solid headache. I do not see another way to fix this except improvisation with all sense I have.

 

So, first visit dentist                , then to work  

Edited October 22, 2013 by Nenad M

[SpencerC]

Do you not have a store near you that sells real model dead eyes? What mm do you need?

[NenadM]

Believe or not, Spencer, in whole Belgrade there is no store with such a thing (near 2.000.000 residents, 1/4 of whole Serbia population). But there are some folks in Serbia you can order it from, by price about 50€  for 100 pieces 

 

There are different size of dead-eyes on CS (4,5,6 mm) , there are blocks too, and ... wait until ( I hope some day) I come to rigging, then I ll see

Edited October 23, 2013 by Nenad M

[rfolsom]

Nenad;  Campbell's plans are accurate.  I am facing a similar problem.  When I laid my deck I was not careful enough with the height at the waterway, and now when I place the stanchions, they vary in lenght because of my error.  I am not as brave as you to tear out the whole deck, so I'm hoping the gradual inconsistencies will go unnoticed for the most part.  It's one of those things I choose to live with, and work goes on, slowly.........................

[rfolsom]

Good luck at the dentist;  funny thing, I had a dental appointment today too, but I rescheduled it for next week because I have a bad cold.

[NenadM]

Bob, take care of yourself. Autumn is a time for catch a cold. 10 C in the morning, 25-27 C in the noon, and 8-9 C in the evening. What to wear ? You can not go dressed in car everywhere.

Tea, lemon, and again tea and lemon ( more than liter a day), and you will be brand new in a few days.

 

I am scared of dentists (with my teeth, regular tooth extraction last 1-1,5 hours per tooth without action of anesthesia ?!?!?!?). Last time 5 teeth where extracted by surgery ... So "happy" news are: Removal of plaque from teeth (done) ----> digital panoramic pictute of all teeth left ----> treatment of periodontal disease -----> exstract the tooth or two (we ll see) -----> dental treatment of remaining teeth -----> prosthetics

 

This will last and cost

 

Half an our of sanding and putty yesterday with a lot of hmmmmmm... Looks like I'll be able to arrange things so that I can/must live with that ( as you said Bob)

Edited October 23, 2013 by Nenad M

[rfolsom]

Thanks for your thoughts, Nenad;  Indeed, I had today off of work and was planning to go walking with the Admiral, since it was very nice outside. (63 F).  We made it about 3 blocks and I had to go back; sneezing, wheezing, and out of energy.  I then sat at the workbench and looked at my builds, but didn't have enough energy to do anything...  Two hours later,  I  decided to mix some Bloody Marys, and have a beer or two, and then felt better to do some more stanchions...

[popeye the sailor]

just what the doctor ordered........plenty of fluids! :D     Nenad......I wish I had an easy fix for you.   getting things to sit flush and level,  is something I agonize the most over.   hopefully,   the aft deck can be removed without too much trouble,  and sand the starboard side........and perhaps concentrating on the flat of the stern as well will make it flush to the main deck.   I hope you fared well at the Dentist.

[SpencerC]

Have someone from the US get u some. My local hobby store sells all sizes 4 bucks for like 20 of em

[NenadM]

Comedy "CS by NM" act II part 4 (battle with mounain )

 

Popeye, as usualy you are right

 

And here is synopsis for the comedy, with description what happened, and how I ll try to fix it

 

Drawing is made in MSWORD and it is not accurate and it is not in scale, and situation is little better than shown   

 

 

In original TEHNODIDAKTA plans, bulwarks are to narrow to main deck  , which reflect to low height of front and rear deck. To fix it, I made another front and rear deck and glue it over. With front deck, everything is OK      , but with rear deck  ... I made mistake ( not follow line of new bulwark) who reflected with MOUNTAIN.

 

To fix it I put some narrow strips longitudinally at the middle, and at the same end of rear deck, and putty holes to assume proper line as it is shown on drawing, and it seems to be OK - except - now, I must correct stern line as it is shown with red line on drawing. Re-planking rear deck will follow.

 

Happiness is that rear deck has lateral curvature which make much easier battle with the MOUNTAIN  

 

I ll put a picture when I finish fixing, and, Bob, I think I can live with it

Edited October 24, 2013 by Nenad M