Cutty Sark by Nenad

[SpencerC]

And thank you for the pictures by the way!

[NenadM]

Listening group THE YES, move forward, and poop deck bulwark is done and mounted. One peace made of three layer, and 2 working hours ( fastening of glue not included). No broke !!!!

 

 

Fixed eliptical, no circular curve of stern. After taking this picture, I corrected bulwark a little while, to remove little "horn" at left "corner", and to fix ugly traces of sanding on the composition of fences and decks. I was too lazy to shoot again (because I have first to cut loose from the outside speaker phone, turn off the music program Mixzing, to activate the camera, set up the camera ... my old  HTC Wildfire is overloaded and creepy slow )

 

 

As it can be seen, four crotchets ( Thenodidakta plan) are removed, two stay for now. I'm getting closer to the idea that, when (if ever) climb on deck ( I can not wait this ...), remove all of it and fix what is possible. Maybe even redo the planks. Devil in my head don`t sleep. If my intention and idea how second planking and coopering layer will look - perfect with covering all mistakes (  ) , that definitely will be the option. If I mess up ....

Edited October 4, 2013 by Nenad M

[rwiederrich]

Wow Nenad..coming along nicely.....you've put in some hours.

 

Excellent.

 

Rob

[NenadM]

Ah, my ingenious son got his first call to the Magistrate / parking his bike on the green area/. He do not have to pay attorney ( ...) but his penalty will pay, oh yes, no mercy.

 

Why them everything have to learn in harder way ? I do not remember me when I was young .... ( or I pretend not to remember ...  )

 

It is said: little children eat your milk, grown children eat your liver ...     

 

PS

 

He forced me to start parallel building with some Admirallity model ... Because even the CS building is sometimes to much for me, I told him immediately: " build it yourself..."

 

No answer

Edited November 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[SpencerC]

What's up with your stern though? It looks warped.

[NenadM]

Spencer, you have eagle eye.

 

It was warped on picture above. After taking that picture, there was more work, and here is how it looks this evening

 

 

I am pretty proud to myself ( ha ha ) how it looks

[SpencerC]

Looks much better! I am impressed!

[mtaylor]

Nenad,

 

Excellent progress. I too, am impressed. 

[NenadM]

Thx friends

I wanna share something I shoot .Unbelieve wher are they. Nobody put them there

Edited October 5, 2013 by Nenad M

[rfolsom]

Wonderful progress on your build!  It makes me want to do the next step on mine as well...

 

Kids will always be kids;  If he paid for the bike himself; let him lose (or break) it himself, and learn the lesson the hard way.  However, motorcycles can be very dangerous without proper care;  Watch this carefully....

 

Are you going to keep the kitties?

[NenadM]

Bob, His majesty - Adrian The Great, 5 years old Persian cat, is "de facto" lord of my house, and there is no room from 6 little cats. He has  better pedigree than me+Admiral+kids together ... Try to imagine him with them ... horror ... Believe me, it is pretty pointless when only He ( and imagine + 6) visit my workshop and leave there his loooooong hair (you see this invisible color of hair) on my workbench  ... In some pictures I posted you can see this. And imagine final putty with very light moves when discover hear in the light and precise layer of putty you just apply...

 

Photo No 9 from my post #17

 

 

Kittens are shooted in warehouse where I had bye cement to finish Admirals fountain, and they have owner who feed them and take care

 

Bike ... eh ..... I know that one day all kids must sit on some steering wheel  ... I had survived kids first solo night go outs, and probably I ll survive his bike ... In Belgrade police do not work in traffic what they have to do, and number of idiots in cars grow every day ... 

Edited November 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[popeye the sailor]

I have the same problem Nenad.......I'll be working on my table,  and I'll come across these long white hairs.   They are from my dog,  Gibbs.    I have no idea how they get here......the table is just over 4 feet tall!   he is an Americam Eskimo,  and has thick fluffy hair.  when he sheds,  it is everywhere!   I saw a show one day.......a woman made a sweater from their hair...looked warm as hell!

 

I fixed up the old Toyota for one more year...........I let my son drive it.   I figure,  he bangs this one up,  I won't feel so bad.  we have our share of nuts on the road.......I can remember when driving was fun 

[NenadM]

Yesterday I got some nut-wood panel 1mm wide, and in my mind start to preparing for making top rails. Also got some batten 1x1 mm for fenders ... 

 

Today I went to trip with Admiral to Zlatibor Mountain 240 km from Belgrade ( had very short Court appearance in little town nearby), take a little rest and walking in that famous Serbian tourist Center, and drive back home 3,5 hours. What a nature ........ same as on the best NG photos. Sunshine difficulty breaking through  little fog in deep forest all around ..... I think about to stop and shoot, but it was dangerous (serpentines and holes on road). Something like this .... really wonderful  

 

 

PS: "Young bull" was fooled by seller and bought old battery for his bike as new one ... real entertainment for the people around him .... ( I was driving very carefully, and then come his phone call: "Hey, dad, my bike is dead on parking. Can you help me somehow ? ... Where are you ? .....On Zlatibor ? Where is this ? ......240 km from Belgrade !!!! What are you doing there ...When you will get home? And what am I  to do ?.....") 

 

Will I ever be calm and boring ....

 

Shipbuilding is good medicament and drug, also a meditation for brain ...  work therapy in madhouse of life...

Edited November 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[edmay]

 Hi Nenad,As expected your progress is looking great,well done. Any more local history photo"s or interesting places in Serbia would be appreciated,thanks ,Edwin

[NenadM]

Thank you, Edwin, I am doing my best (?)

 

Mainly, when I saw that my method with first layer of planking yields results beyond all expectations, now bothers me the way (in my old plans) I did inside bulwarks - nail holders and dead eye holders. I have much to think about it until go up the work on deck

 

The whole situation is almost helter-skelter ... and upside-down.

 

But, that is the fun with scratch building and I really enjoy in process of resolving problems

Edited November 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

As usual, new dilema

 

Top-galant rail

(or bulwark rail, I dont know exactly name, in different places I found different names)

 

Look at this pictures from Campbell and from CS in dry dock

 

 

As you can see, rail is pretty narrow and very elegant, and measuring to my model, it should be about 3 mm wide on my model

 

But

 

On some models it can be seen on Internet, rail is wider, it should be about 5 mm wide on my model

 

 

Also at  Sergal instructions

 

 

And Billing boats

 

 

And AL

 

 

As you can see, rail is wider, but it seems to give more power-full look to model and whole deck. 

 

On the other side, narrow rail is harder to make and mount,  and wider rail is quite easier to make and mount, especially in view of latter works on rail. Also better masks eventually mistakes under   (a little bit wider nail and dead-eye holder I made trying to catch earlier lost lines of hull)

What is your opinion in this istuation? 3mm or 5mm? Maybe compromise - 4mm ?

Edited November 21, 2013 by Nenad M

[popeye the sailor]

different model manufacturers depict different views on detail.........can't really explain why.......if one person sees it a certain way,  they all should.   take plastic for instance........some have really crappy detail,  while others are highly detailed.  with wood,  you have some lee-way,  but you need to keep in mind how high the bulwarks will end up.

 

the dead eye and pin rails are already there.  the rise that is there,  will have to be used for the decorative border you want to do.  it would probably be best to use the 4mm for the cap rails........5mm would probably be too much,  and hinder the dead eyes.  you would have to do a check fit, to see what is best.

[NenadM]

 

This is the quote from C. Nepean Longridge's book "The Cutty Sark". 

 

 

Thanks Garym

 

A couple of months ago I have been looking for this book on Internet, no success. In Serbia we can not pay on regular way to Amazon etc, so only chance is to find it in some hidden corner of Internet as *.pdf, and to download.   

Edited October 11, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

Admiral¨s drinking fountain is finished, and I hope in the evening to proceed with main rail

 

[NenadM]

Evening come, Admiral went to Vaya Con Dios concert with friend, children go out, and I am finally alone, in creative peace

 

Make some ness coffie, take my music with me ( for tonight I chose Jethro Tull, The Yes and ELP) and start working on main rail

 

Everything went so fine, nice adn easy

 

first on stern deck

 

 

 

then on bow deck

 

 

and it looks very nice, and I was satisfied

 

And then

 

DISASTER 

 

PAY BACK TIME  !!!!!

 

 (me)

 

Mistakes for earlier period comes in their full brightness and size and jump directly to my head and heart

 

Dead-eye and nail holders are tooooooo wide and messy , and there is no way to go on with main rail until I fix it. And it means .... 

 

For Bob : It is obviously bad idea to put dead-eyes in earlier stage. They all must go now . 

 

    (why there is no crying smiley ?)

 

Bad:  a lot of working hours on dead-eyes went somewhere to the sky

Good: There is opportunity to fix them : During building, I realize that my dead-eyes must be smaller than this I made

 

And here is my splodge          

 

 

There is no doubt - a difficult surgical operation is necessary

 

So, whole main deck must be wiped out, to the zero, I take a deep breath, and again take a deeper breath, and start cleaning mess 

 

 

Weeping and crying, start to remove  everything,

 

After a while,  think .....

 

The devil is not black as he seems. This situation will allow me to do ( or - to try to do) some things to be closser to Campbell plans

 

For example

 

To make waterway

To paint white inside bulwark

To make dead-eye and nail holder in scale

To mount wires instead stupid wooden parts

To remake dead-eye equal  and smaller and to fix them to bulwark in proper way with wire

To re-plank deck

etc

etc

 

You, my  friends, must be a bloody fun looking my upside-down building

 

Yes, I also have a fun

Edited October 15, 2013 by Nenad M

[mtaylor]

Nenad,

 

It seems all disasters are a mixed blessing and mixed mess.  You have the right mind set to fix the things you're not happy with.  The ship will be better for it and you'll feel better when done.  Feeding the scrap box is one of the things we do. 

 

Here are two emoticons for the next time you think you need them:   

Just right click and save them for use later. 

[popeye the sailor]

as you said........all is not lost.   it does take some getting used to though...........this is scratch building,  at it's best 

 

I'm sure you will straighten all this out 

[Piet]

Our dear friend Nenad,

 

There is peace and calm and sunshine after the storm.  Now you have the privilege to correct the few things you find error in and your ship will rise from this minor setback as the beautiful phoenix you envision her in your mind.

Take heart my friend, we cry with you but we know that the rework will make her beautiful. 

 

Cheers,

[Piet]

Hey Nenad, guess what?  I found out today that I have a large problem with my O 19 submarine model   

I found out that with the side launch torpedo doors open the resulting space for the torpedo tubes is just 1 mm too little.  So - - - - I have to either tear down part of the deck structure sides or do some other drastic things.  I have a few options.

So you see, you are not alone in having to redo things on your build.  You and I will fix it because - - - - we must   

Keep the faith my friend and keep chugging along.

 

Cheers, 

[rfolsom]

Ah, yes;  I do feel for you, sir.  When I had completed planking my false deck (outside the main hull) I awoke the next morning to find out my birds had somehow splashed their water all over the completely planked deck, warping it badly.  (I have since moved their cage off my work table).  I was so discouraged I told the Admiral that I'm boxing this ship up, and ordering the USS Constitution kit from Model Expo.  However, After a few choice words, I took a deep breath and placed the deck in the bathroom with the shower running full force as hot as it would go; to steam the deck; then placed it on tile with 10-12 encyclopedia volumes on top for a day.  This worked out well enough that I was able to salvage my work and go on.

 

I encourage you to take a deep breath, weigh your options, and proceed..  This is a hobby, and at times can be discouraging, but there is no timeline for completion involved, nor will any lives be lost because of mistakes

 

As James Lawrence commanded in 1813 (while dying):  "Don't give up the ship!"

 

And also thank you for the advice on the deadeyes;  this is how I'll proceed.

[NenadM]

Thank you friends for your support

 

The initial despair is over, I am filled with optimism and already thinking about the further technical details ( how to bring out the steel braces bracket bolts and how to bring out the brackets of dead-eyes. Ah, wather-way  also)

 

Since the amount of chaos to be cleaned is large, there is lot of time to think about

 

 

...  After a few choice words, I took a deep breath and placed the deck in the bathroom with the shower running full force as hot as it would go ...

 

 

Interesting technique, Bob   

 

 

[Dognut]

Hi Nenad,

Unfortunately, disasters do happen. My remedy for this is to go into the garden, AND PULL OUT SOME WEEDS. Really, really pull them out. Make lots of cave-man type noises while doing this. However, this is where my dog-pack decides that it's better to watch this from a distance - a very safe distance (like from inside the house).

 

When done - you feel much better. The problem is still there, but now you've taken out the aggro on some weeds - and hopefully got some points with the Admiral...

 

None of us smile at your problem - since we will have problems ourselves...(amazing how the weeds have disappeared in the garden)

[NenadM]

Comedy continues ... 

 

Deep breath, and let`s go ...

 

In the sweat of my face, blood-soaked (fold my finger on surgical scalpel ...), thoroughly clean the main deck. ELP and The Yes in backround ... "Dremel" works in full force ... dust everywhere ...

 

 

And repairing begin. First to pimp lost lines and fill holes. For now, It seems that after reconstruction it all will be OK. I Imagine de-leveled water-ways and "steel" support holders and how to make them from a staple  ... 

 

 

I intend to re-plank deck, and there is opportunity, before planking to open some holes in, and to put some extra weight in

 

But

Of course, next question arise: Bearing in mind that I also must reconstruct white panels on bulwark, so, for that matter, reconstruction and little arising of rear deck - yes or no

 

( sometimes shyly look over SERGAL plans - the initial part of the first rib on ... I hit myself a slap, and violent change my mind about starting over ...)

 

Obviously I'm not, and will not be bored. 

 

Can I update my head for a bit less complicated?

 

All in all, I can not wait to finish the day and go down to the shipyards to continue to torture myself

Edited October 15, 2013 by Nenad M

[NenadM]

 

 

None of us smile at your problem ...

 

Problem is no silly, we all had/have it. But, my way ... I am silly to myself.

 

I dont have seen anybody in MSW to have a fun going on this way (reverse order, obstinately, confidently, head against a wall  ... ). It must be fun for reading ... look at this fool ( sometimes I feel this way)

 

And sometimes remember why my son annoying me ( ak does not fall far from the tree). Same me...   

Edited October 15, 2013 by Nenad M

[Dognut]

Nenad,

Don't feel bad. Look at what I did to my poor Cutty - and I have In#^str*!#ction$ ! (Instructions said as a bad-word)

 

Luckily, we have MSW - a problem shared is a problem gone!