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Posted (edited)

Little playing and testing with thin wire from paperclip. 

 

If I do not find a thinner and enough strong, and at the same time, arable wire, ring is unnecessary because the whole thing looks a bit bulky

 

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Posted (edited)

It is easy, Bob. Just thinned veneer ...  ;) 

 

good "surgical" scalpel

 

needle for "rivets"

 

and the need to camouflage the mess

 

So

 

make a mess

 

and solution will come ...
 

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted (edited)

And here is it again ...

 

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worm of doubt in my mind

 

Little progress on weekend, mainly slow slow slow precise (trying) painting over rails (I had to use magnify glass and Brush painting with such a thin tip that can be seen only under a magnifying glass) , with 100-200 interruptions by family ...  give me that ... give me this ... where is ... could you ... why do not you ... why did not you ... when you will ... what do you think about ... It is time for ... what happened with ... have you ... 

 

And over that all

 

At one moment in the evening, my daughter came in workshop ... it was cold (timer turned off the heating) so as I am bald, I putted on some dirty cap on top of my head, in working clothes with putty and paint traces every where on it, sitting still in corner on workbench without any visible move, my nose skintight to magnifyer, cigarette in corner of lips, smoke around head, trying to be quite and still as it can be done, only hand with brush ostensibly stoned to Her Majesty, deep concentration, excluded from all around, working on places where 1/2 mm means different of straight line and curvature,  Mendelson or something similar in background, and she said:

 

" You look just as a mad scientist "

 

...

Edited by Nenad M

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

It could be that we all are quite "mad".  Or at least a little crazy. ;)

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted (edited)

It could be that we all are quite "mad".  Or at least a little crazy. ;)

 

 

Marc

 

As I am in painting job about week and more , Admiral ask me what to hell need so much time just to paint Her ... why, to hell, you need another sandpaper with granulation 400 ... 

Edited by Nenad M

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Posted

Thanks,

That's exactly what I was trying to see. I was looking for a clear shot of your cutwater. It looked like there were two, an inner and outer. Just wanted to see if that was the case. Why did you put two? Or was it just how the construction came out?

Posted (edited)

Daniel

I "thinned" tooo much cutwater during hull saaaaaaanding and it had 3-3,5 mm depth instead 4-4,25 mm. So, must do something to correct it. I find solution in two aditional outside layers of veneer which are(will be) covered with black acrylic paint and coppering. Edges are finished with putty mask so this all is (will be) covered. Only "double" you can see
 is unprecise work. On this way transition from planks to cutwater is so much softer and front hull, stem bow and cutwater look much sharper and more proud. So, as I wrote earlier - happy end of one mistake I made

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted (edited)

Hey Nenad ; 

 

Sometimes mistakes are very instructional, you know :) And sanding is a really fun for me, but seems not for you :)

 

Congratulations and good luck with rest :)

Edited by Bugra

There is nothing that a little sanding can't solve.. Bugra.

 

Current Builds : 

H.M.S. Triton Cross Section by Bugra - 1/48

Turkish Traditional Ship - Surmene Takasi by Bugra - 1:35

 

Posted (edited)

Thx Burga

I can say that there is sure some kind of magic when lines of hull start to appear under putty.

 

But, if that stage last months ... magic go somewhere 

 

And you can never be sure, have you sanded Her enough ? A little more ... 

 

I can say that same thing is with painting too. Wonderful straight lines appear, but ... if you want to do it correct and precise, only on one single rail, upper or down side (only one of them) to paint from bow to stern you need almost one long hour stare in magnifier, stoned on chair, deeply focused. And there are three rails on left, three on right, so six of them, two with upper and down side, two with down side only, and it mean minimum 10-12 hours of "mad scientist" position. Only one colour

 

And then, you jump to paint rails. Another ten sides, another 10-12 working hours, but this time, there must no be any mistake. Magic fly somewhere in mean time, and you start to yearn to move forward to next stage

 

And you realise that every single particle of wooden or putty dust which you can see only by magnifier can turn paintbrush in undesired route or leave a "hole" in paint. And you want clear bright and straight line between black bulwark and white rail where contrast make very visible deviations from a straight line even they are smaller than 1/4 mm.

 

And you realise that sanding with sandpaper 400 or higher is absolute neccessary for smoth sliding of painthbrush. Difference between sanding with 280 and 400 is very visible under magnifier, and very sensitive and reflecting to paintbrush when you are trying to paint straight line

 

Unbelievably. 

 

Real "dark side"

Edited by Nenad M

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Posted

Bugra,

Seems you are only the second individual I have ever heard of that actually enjoys sanding. I was incredulous at first when the other guy told me he liked it. I can't believe anyone could like it. I now know that he really does so I believe you. As unbelieveable as that may sound.

Posted (edited)

I like to put our frend Bob in head-ache with ideas. Guilty by all means  ;) 

 

So, when I discovered tonight that my son had destroyed Einhel head, I was so p** and nervous to paint, after unsuccessful learning of soldiering, I decided to try some testings how to connect dead-eyes to look like as on Her 

 

That is idea which is pretty long in my head

 

So here is result , only as idea, not near final solution. First I made new 5mm deadeye, then use tin of Coca-cola can as clout, wire is of little office staples

 

Deadeye will maybe be smaller ( if I can make it), wire will be painted white, clout around deadeye will be white and little more narrow, wire will be little straight, inside bulwark will be white with waterport surounded with battens, nailholder will be teak colour, on the place of first "deck" molding there will be gray waterway, second molding will be arised little than waterway when I do replanking of deck ...  Try to imagine teak bulwark with white panels rear of deadeye, and ropes from deadeye to up, and on nails in front ....

 

Maybe little thin wire, or not. I knew that this thickness of wire is little out of scale, but thinking about this details as little massive than on scale, to add their contribution and help to mask mess and swamp on the inside bulwark under wires

 

I think that is solution and that will be good

 

@Bob, under holder is "hidden" supporting square molding 2x2mm to get strenght to whole construction, we wrote earlier about this question

 

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted (edited)

In meantime untill next step, it is worth to look at impressive and fascinating work of Croatian master of modelling Roland Vlahovic, on FB profile of group " Maketari i brodomodelari PANCEVO" at

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/123125704388848/

 

in photo album JADRAN

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted (edited)

Yesterday I found (America) that acrylic paint consumes very thin paintbrush. One day you just discover that the brush stops to listen your commands and follow your will, and become willful. Under magnifier you can clearly see what happened. You can do everything from yourself in mercilessly washing and cleaning paintbrush after every step in painting, but invisible particles of colour always remain in root of paintbrush, and as time go by, make paintbrush unusable for precise painting (hairs begin to curve in different directions, and nice top of paintbrush does not exist any more, and there is no way to form it again)

 

So I finished painting with black colour, and decide to leave painting of white square rail for latter ( when I bye new thin paintbrush). Also other two rails is better to paint when finish with cleaning and mounting bulwark with panels and dead-eye holder ( same colour of teak), so I climb on the deck and start cleaning job, removing putty and traces of glue

 

Very usefull tool for this job is dental tools, as for instance, 

 

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I do not have it, and must improvise making jig from needles ( one streight and other curved on top)

 

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Also a little "rasp" for fine cleaning, with amendable little pieces of sandpaper with different granulation

 

Oh, messy Nenad, this will quite a job to entertain yourself a long time ...

 

And another thing for continious taking care of I discover: Do not lay your whole left arm on your model while doing this !!! She do not like that !!!!

Edited by Nenad M

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Posted

"dental" cleaning works tonight on inside bulwark. Nothing to show for now

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Posted

Hello Nenad,Keep alee of the wind,steady as she blows,hold an even keel,the port is in site,like your interesting stories but re-set the timer would not like you to get a head cold,Edwin

Posted (edited)

Angry and didnt work. I must hit something or bite somebody or simply destroy first thing in front of me. Joking, but ...

Last year I remade heating system in house, leave coil and connecting whole house installation to natural gas. Ecology and so. Invested more than 2000€. And winter was fine and warm enough inside for same price and much more comfort, regardless of the outside temperature

This winter unpleasant suprise. Price of gas is same, but gas bill is doubled!!! Very low and bad quality of gas !!! It looks like that in December 2013 with outside temperature +50C to 150C I spent more gas than in February 2013 when outside temperature was -10oC to 00C. !!!!! But with the price of full quality gas !!!!

Main distributor is government ownership and control !!! And gas is from Russia somewhere. Government steal from citizen !!!!! And no place and way to control gas quality in the place of delivery. And official lies and demagogy ... grrrr...

And so, I was forced again to move step back in life and turn off gas, and bye coil again. Very very very angry. With 2 tones of coil I ll finish all winter season, february and march for 200€… and it is no matter how cold is outside. With this quality of gas, only in February, this is expected that gas bill could be about 500€ !!!!! Maybe more


I think and hope that other country do not steal from citizen on that way. I said kids again. FINISH YOUR SCHOOL (medicine and architecture) AND GO WEST AS FAR AS YOU CAN. For me (55) with my job it is to late

So I was forced to rearrange shipyard which is in heat room, and get some more space as to manipulate with coil and to expand workspace in shipyard. But, had no place to spread plans. I must spread plans in near room - garage on hood of car ... the whole day entertainment


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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

Not good news, Nenad.  At least you'll have some workspace until the weather warms up.  I'll not get into the politics of gas, oil, etc. but there are lots of problems.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Still cleaning and dental job ... 

 

It seems I spent time on some work about month, and clean it about two another months ... :( 

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

Hello Nenad, Sorry to hear about the fuel problems,it's not a subject to make light of,when I was young I experienced cold and hunger,it's not funny.Try to keep yourself and family safe,Kind Regards,Edwin.

Posted (edited)

Thx Edwin, problem is resolved urgently with bying 2 tones of coal ( one phone call), but anger stays.

 

I do not like and want to go back in life, especialy when it is not mine fault. I do not know how much time is already happening, and I am a little tired of it. I only want quite and peacefully job with enough money to live peacefully and booring family life without stres. I do not need or want richness.

 

Just rise and step up to next level, and war begin. Just rise again and step up on next, and hiperinflation comes, just rise AGAIN and AGAIN step up and Kosovo with bombing comes, just step up, and some rotten people come to power, and whole life goes on that way

 

Smile, and go forward, nose up, and dont look behind

 

Crack from time to time, but it all goes as it goes

 

But, lets go back to Her Majesty, I hear Her grumble that She is neglected, even I spent 6 hours today with Her cleaning my messy work as much as I am able too

Edited by Nenad M

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted (edited)

How cleaning job go forward, from time to time it seems that Her Majesty began to purr like a cat ...

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

"Dental" work progress well

Something between

 

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and

 

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Before

 

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and after

 

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before

 

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and after

 

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And on that way x 80

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

Good progress, Nenad.  Your second picture looks like me in the mirror...  I think the winter doldrums is affecting everyone;  nobody has posted for awhile on my other build log (including me) and I have to push myself  to do any work.  Colorado weather is very weird;  four days ago it was almost 70 F, and the next day we had a foot of snow.  A day later it was 65 F and all the snow melted, and today it's 19 F and has been snowing all day long....

Posted (edited)

Bob

 

With me it is just opposite

 

When weather is fine, day is long, and outside is shine and warm, there is always somewhere to go, and something to do in garden and home-yard, and sometimes I am so tired to work on Her.

 

In winter, as I do not like much to wach TV, and as I am reading books when I go to sleep, kids in the evening are not in home, and there is mainly no other job to do in the evening, so I am in ship-yard almost every evening. Ship-yard is in heating room, and there is worm enough to work in winter.

 

Also to mention, in Serbia on 2010 was "reform" of justice system, and in the 2014 starts again "reform of reform" of justice system (?!?!?!?!?). Minister of justice is boy 27 years old (?) who do not know even how court look inside, and not at all how whole system works... There were 5 courts in Belgrade until 2010, after 2010 they were packed in one and only court (?), now this court is separated in three, all cases are packed in boxes waiting to move to court houses, but even today it is unknown where two of courts will be seated (?!?!?!) That means that courts will not work until late spring-early summer, maybe untill autumn. To mention that in Serbia are just announced unnecessary parliamentary elections, so there will be nobody in goverement really interested and dedicated to finish reforms until ellections ended in march/april, and new goverment sited in april/may... sometimes I feel like Alice in Wonderland. So, usual working day who lasts in 2013. about 8-12 working hours, now is about 6-8 working hours ... That also means - less of job and money of course

 

I promissed myself not to cry and mourn any more

 

But good is - more time for ship modelling, very good sedative not to think about all arround

 

Also is significant that Admiral is attorney too, and as we work together in our office, I do not have to look her all 24 hours a day ... ;)

 

Push yourself a little ... 

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Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

Ok, Nenad; no more whining for me.  Now I need to ask you a question, (and Lou).  The bulwarks were made of sheet iron that were riveted together.  Does anyone know the dimensions of the sheets?   Also, any dimensions on the rivets and the spacing between them? None of this is apparent in Campell's plans (my bible).

 

Thanks, guys,

 

~Bob

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I do not know

 

Lou ?

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

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