Bluto 1790 Posted September 11, 2020 Share #1 Posted September 11, 2020 There are 3 rooms in the aft end of the orlop deck that will be included in the section that I'm building. One of them is #5 in the drawing below. The other 2 rooms, #18 & #19 will also be included. Room #5 is shown as Marine Clothing. How would the inside of that room be configured? I assume it probably had shelves attached to the partition wall and possibly even to the inner hull -- but I only have that drawing above and have no idea of what may have been in that room. So I'd be grateful for any information coming from you guys. Also, the rooms #18 (Lieutenant's Store Room) and #19 (Captain's Store Room) -- how would they have been configured? What kind of fittings would most likely have been in these rooms? Thanks in advance. Quote Jim. I cut it twice . . . . . and it's still too short! HMS Leopard 1790; scratch build 1:80 PoB Cross Section - HMS Leopard 1790 - 1:44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el cid Posted September 11, 2020 Share #2 Posted September 11, 2020 Not sure about storerooms 18 and 19, but have heard references to the Marine Clothing compartment. It’s common knowledge in the US Navy that Marines are fond of wearing pretty clothes, so I suspect room 5 would have shelves for fluffy sweaters, drawers for lacy undergarments, and perhaps hangers for sexy dresses. Oh, and shoe racks for their CMFM pumps. And of course a full-length mirror somewhere on a bulkhead. HTH, CPO, USN (Ret) Brian Hanington, trippwj, Mark P and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted September 11, 2020 Share #3 Posted September 11, 2020 Jim I looked at some drawings of the orlop decks at the NMM Collections site and the marine clothing room is clearly shown on Inflexible, 1780. While it was a 64, the cabin layout is similar to what you show. I could not find a contemporary orlop drawing of a 50 but I am sure they are in their archives somewhere. Alas, I found nothing on what was inside the cabin. With the bright red seemingly the uniform of the day for the marines, I suspect this was basically a wardrobe type room, an origin or modern walk in closets, to keep things neat and orderly and away from the daily grunge that might be encountered if kept elsewhere and ruin the scarlet look. Perhaps, Victory has such a space and has been restored to what it looked like back in the day. Might be photos out there if that is the case. Allan Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted September 11, 2020 Share #4 Posted September 11, 2020 4 hours ago, el cid said: Not sure about storerooms 18 and 19, but have heard references to the Marine Clothing compartment. It’s common knowledge in the US Navy that Marines are fond of wearing pretty clothes, so I suspect room 5 would have shelves for fluffy sweaters, drawers for lacy undergarments, and perhaps hangers for sexy dresses. Oh, and shoe racks for their CMFM pumps. And of course a full-length mirror somewhere on a bulkhead. HTH, CPO, USN (Ret) Hey, I take exception to that!! Although I too am a retired CPO I portray a marine on Constitution. I think the room is the equivalent of the Navy's slop chest where replacement clothing for sailors was available. However unlike sailors slops that the individual sailor paid for, Marine uniforms were an issue item. I would think that there would be shelves and bins to hold various uniform items. Regards, el cid and mtaylor 2 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted September 11, 2020 Share #5 Posted September 11, 2020 Henry, the deck plan shows a slop room just aft of the marine clothing room. You may be right, one was for the sailors, one for the marines, but if that's the case, why not call it a marine slop room? So many questions, so little time. Allan mtaylor 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted September 11, 2020 Share #6 Posted September 11, 2020 Because slops were often cast offs and remainders of uniforms. Sometimes they consisted of the clothing recovered from deceased crew members sea bags. The clothing was not always in the best of conditions, hence the moniker - slops. Marine uniforms were required to be in a more presentable state because they were often the face of the Navy ashore (along with the officers uniforms). When a ship did make port often the only personnel allowed ashore were officers and a marine detachment. Regards, mtaylor and allanyed 2 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluto 1790 Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted September 12, 2020 Thanks for your comments El Cid, Allan and Henry. El Cid ~ I've ordered a full length mirror and some frilly underpants off ebay. I've viewed several walk-thru videos of Victory on youtube hoping for some inspiration and will probably try a cabinet or two and some shelves similar to these ones in this screenshot from one of the videos > mtaylor and Mark P 2 Quote Jim. I cut it twice . . . . . and it's still too short! HMS Leopard 1790; scratch build 1:80 PoB Cross Section - HMS Leopard 1790 - 1:44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenn Posted December 23, 2021 Share #8 Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) I usually use to shop my marine clothing from the Quaker Marine store, store are really good quality provide in its clothing. I really love it. Good thing is that, here can be shop Quaker Marine clothing on discounts. These thing is literally perfect! Edited December 23, 2021 by Kenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted December 23, 2021 Share #9 Posted December 23, 2021 Welcome to MSW Kenn, It would be a polite thing if you would post an introduction in the new member forum here at MSW. The subject was concerning clothing for marines aboard ship over 200 years ago, so are you saying Quaker Marine store has vintage clothing? You make no mention on where the store is located. Merry Christmas and happy 2022 Allan Kenn and mtaylor 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenn Posted December 23, 2021 Share #10 Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) Thanks for welcome! Actually I am from Australia and I am a traveler also loves to fishing, Writing is my profession I write stories entertainment also lifestyle topics. Actually Quaker Marine store established in 1949, not too old but it is also a reasonable thing to categorized as vintage clothing this is of its overall story https://quakermarine.com/pages/about-us. I just want to sharing this as a relevant place for interest. Thank you Edited December 23, 2021 by Kenn allanyed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted December 23, 2021 Share #11 Posted December 23, 2021 I think it would be safe to go with shelving in any and all of the areas that you mention, Jim. mtaylor 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr PR Posted December 24, 2021 Share #12 Posted December 24, 2021 (edited) I was a Nuclear Weapons Officer in the Navy and had a Marine detachment to guard my spaces. I am pretty certain some of the Marines would take exception to CPO cid's comments about marine attire. The dresses they wore definitely were not sexy! Edited December 24, 2021 by Dr PR popeye2sea and mtaylor 2 Quote Phil Current build: USS Cape MSI-2 Current build: Albatros topsail schooner Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 24, 2021 Share #13 Posted December 24, 2021 14 hours ago, Dr PR said: I was a Nuclear Weapons Officer in the Navy and had a Marine detachment to guard my spaces. I am pretty certain some of the Marines would take exception to CPO cid's comments about marine attire. The dresses they wore definitely were not sexy! Only "some". All the former Marines I know would object.????? If Monty Python is right, then only lumberjacks would approve of his comment. LOL Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr PR Posted December 25, 2021 Share #14 Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) You live in Medford and you dared post that comment?! Taunting Marines is one thing, but lumberjacks is another, especially when they live all around you. Here at the OSU College of Forestry you don't mention the "Lumberjack Song!" Are we off topic? Edited December 25, 2021 by Dr PR mtaylor 1 Quote Phil Current build: USS Cape MSI-2 Current build: Albatros topsail schooner Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 25, 2021 Share #15 Posted December 25, 2021 17 hours ago, Dr PR said: You live in Medford and you dared post that comment?! Taunting Marines is one thing, but lumberjacks is another, especially when they live all around you. Here at the OSU College of Forestry you don't mention the "Lumberjack Song!" Are we off topic? Yeah... I wandered off a bit. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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