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Hello all!

 

Hoping to get some gift ideas for my father who just bought the Caldercraft HMS Vicotry 72:1 model kit. 
 

He did a model earlier this year but the Victory is much, much, larger. I’m hoping to get him something to help him with this. I know he has a dremel already and probably most of the basic tools. 
 

Would there be anything that’s a must-have for something like this? There’s some tool kits on Amazon but I worry about their quality. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Hi

 

Great idea-modelling tools!

Hard to suggest this stage. Is he new to modelling or he allready has workshop? What would be budget?


From electric tools without knowing anything-proxxon mini lathe, disk sander and bench drill.


Maybe some book with more detail drawing on Victory?

https://www.amazon.com/100-Gun-Ship-Victory-Anatomy/dp/1591146372

 

Vahur

Edited by Wahka_est
Posted

The situation is complicated.  As for tools, although enthusiasm often leads to wasted money as far as tools, even your father probably does not realize which tools

he needs until he needs that specific job done.

It may be wiser to get:

A gift certificate to a special tool vendor:

Lee Valey
Japan Woodworker
Lie-NielsenToolworks

 

or

A subject specific book:

The 100-Gun Ship Victory (Anatomy of the Ship)  by John McKay
The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships Hardcover   by C. Nepean Longridge

 

But for something unexpected but better than what he is likely to know about:

Japan Woodworker  #156382  1/8" double bevel Blue Steel knife

It also needs a piece of scrap leather and a fine honing compound like Flexcut Gold

Compared to Xacto type #11 blades - both will do the job,  but the knife it like having Lamborghini instead of a Ford

  
or from StewMac    
    Item       Price       Qty       Total

    Japanese Super Fine-Cut Saw
Item # 3617
    $39.48     1     $39.48

    Japanese Curved-edge Mini Saw
Item # 3612
    $28.30     1     $28.30

    StewMac Ultimate Scraper, Mini
Item # 0632
    $28.07     1     $28.07

 

The curved-edge saw works a trick in crosscutting

NRG member 50 years

 

Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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For me it's upgrade from Dremel to a decent flex shaft tool.

 

Good suggestion. The Dremel body is very heavy and bulky for fine, light work. The flexible drive (coupled with the mini hand tightend chuck) makes the Dremel cutter/drill/sander bit on the end so much easier to manipulate.

 

 

It may be wiser to get: A gift certificate to a special tool vendor:

 

This is the ideal solution since your father won't know what tools he really needs until the need arises.  The suggested books do look good though as do the quality tools. A book might be a good supplementary gift though since he can read it in the 'family' areas and start 'did you know that....' conversations 🙂

 

Richard

Posted

I would go with the book for starters.   For a kit, next to machine tools are needed.   You might look at this article, https://thenrg.org/articles/basic-tools  and then find out what he doesn't have.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted
On 12/15/2020 at 2:23 PM, Jaager said:

The situation is complicated.  As for tools, although enthusiasm often leads to wasted money as far as tools, even your father probably does not realize which tools

he needs until he needs that specific job done.

It may be wiser to get:

A gift certificate to a special tool vendor:

Lee Valey
Japan Woodworker
Lie-NielsenToolworks

 

or

A subject specific book:

The 100-Gun Ship Victory (Anatomy of the Ship)  by John McKay
The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships Hardcover   by C. Nepean Longridge

 

But for something unexpected but better than what he is likely to know about:

Japan Woodworker  #156382  1/8" double bevel Blue Steel knife

It also needs a piece of scrap leather and a fine honing compound like Flexcut Gold

Compared to Xacto type #11 blades - both will do the job,  but the knife it like having Lamborghini instead of a Ford

  
or from StewMac    
    Item       Price       Qty       Total

    Japanese Super Fine-Cut Saw
Item # 3617
    $39.48     1     $39.48

    Japanese Curved-edge Mini Saw
Item # 3612
    $28.30     1     $28.30

    StewMac Ultimate Scraper, Mini
Item # 0632
    $28.07     1     $28.07

 

The curved-edge saw works a trick in crosscutting

Thank you so much! Just ordered the McKay book and looking into some tools. Great suggestions, really appreciate it!

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