Robp1025 Posted January 20, 2022 Share #1 Posted January 20, 2022 Hello everyone, So I have been able to receive a wonderful opportunity of continuing to a beautiful ship. The Wasa by Billing Boats. It's quite an old kit but we'll preserved and treated with much love. Right now I get to show it off and I want to try and do the best I can for this build. I will for sure take my time and really dedicate the proper time and effort into this to do my best and look for help as I travel this journey. this is some pictures of the plans and also came with it's instruction manual that is in good condition as well. this is everything that came in. I am excited to see how painting on all the plastic comes out because I haven't done that so I am going to need some advice on this for sure. I need to check up on all of these measurements because I feel the strakes are too long and my first starting point I decided is going to be finishing the construction of the base part of the Hull and making a good solid stand to hold the hull as I work. Hopefully you guys can join me and I hope to get some help because I am sure going to need it!! chris watton, BLACK VIKING, Baker and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzoun Posted January 21, 2022 Share #2 Posted January 21, 2022 Looking forward to seeing your progress on it. Robp1025 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted January 21, 2022 Share #3 Posted January 21, 2022 Looks good. There are several buildlogs of this model I have had great satisfaction with this kit. Will follow with interest. And if you have any questions i will try to answer Robp1025 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share #4 Posted January 22, 2022 Alright so after doing some measurements and going over the plans I have found everything to be with in 1-2 mm so I decided to tackle the gun ports. I am going to need to do some painting and work on figuring out how to get the gun ports handled. From looking over the plans the previous owners plan was to measure off of the 1-1 plan and measure out each port on the hull. So I went over the measurements and lined them with my tools and interpretation of how to measure between the plan and the hull. I made this to measure over the curvature of the ships hull and marked between 25-40 mm This is my markings for distance between the ports and what I used to do the markings on the hull. the plastic squares are 10-10 mm so will measure this out and start to cut out the ports and get to figuring out how I will mount supports behind the port opens to hold the cannons. GrandpaPhil, Keith Black and Azzoun 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted January 22, 2022 Share #5 Posted January 22, 2022 Be careful making the openings the planking is quite thin. I have an idea for your cannons, but no time today to make a sketch of it. Robp1025 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share #6 Posted January 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Backer said: Be careful making the openings the planking is quite thin. I have an idea for your cannons, but no time today to make a sketch of it. Ok I will for sure and I started cutting one out to see using the drill to get me started with a smaller size hole then using my file to shave down carefully. I know there is going to be bulkheads in the way so I'm going to need to take that into account as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share #7 Posted January 22, 2022 Didn't do so well on the first port because I slightly over filed. So I am going to use a very small bit of wood putty to fix the up but for my second ship I'm gaining confidence with each one I do. thats the first one that I slightly over didthis is the second that I got better on. It's going to be a process but between working on these ports and then doing some painting cause the is a lot of detail paint I need to get going so I think doing back and forth on all this won't make it too over bearing. GrandpaPhil and Keith Black 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted January 22, 2022 Share #8 Posted January 22, 2022 My idea, without obligation Glue the platic port on a piece of plywood (or wood or thick plastic). Port and plywood must have the same dimensions You can then drill a hole in it where you can glue the cannon (drill the hole before gluing the port / plywood on the model. a sketch I used almost the same method Result GrandpaPhil, Michiel Frirz, Robp1025 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snug Harbor Johnny Posted January 22, 2022 Share #9 Posted January 22, 2022 Ahoy Rob ! With your project there's been a lot of work done already - and the Billings kit (although not the current one) is definitely an improvement over the 'original' version issued in the late 60s ... the one whose hull I built back then and recently have re-started the work in light of present-day knowledge. I'll soon be adding a couple of images to my build dealing with corrective issues - such as they are. The lines on your version are much better, and the fittings in the box are more extensive. As far as the gun ports are concerned, somehow I had the vision as a 14-year old to cut the ports in the planking before any decking was installed - then I glued pieces of 'false decking' on the inside of the hull below the holes. Dummy carriages were made of balsa and dowel pieces (with one end drilled to accept the half cannons) representing the back end of the canon were glued in the dummy carriages. Balsa strips were glued around the inside of the square holes in the planking and tinted brown. The effect is pleasing seen from the outside. Fair sailing! Johnny Robp1025 and Baker 2 Quote Completed builds: Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share #10 Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Backer said: My idea, without obligation Glue the platic port on a piece of plywood (or wood or thick plastic). Port and plywood must have the same dimensions You can then drill a hole in it where you can glue the cannon (drill the hole before gluing the port / plywood on the model. a sketch I used almost the same method Result That was my thought but I want to make sure the cannons don't collapse into the hull. I might try to line the inside with some supports so the glue has more places to stick. Baker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share #11 Posted January 23, 2022 So I am finding no information of some of the color aspects of the ship because everything is dedicated to the ornate decorations. I get it but I would like to have some idea to go off of. The Hull color is a wonderful Indian red so I feel like I will keep it that color as I feel it's like the pictures of the vasa. But the deck is not really spoke about so I am going to post some stains. They are single coats at the moment so I could build on it Number 2 is an antique wax I found and 1 and 3 are both stains. If you have any suggestions besides these I would love to hear as well. I have not tried weathering mixtures so would be curious on that as well. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted January 23, 2022 Did some work on the gun ports and found that a lot of this wood is fragile so taking my time to make sure not to do too much damage on the single planking. I'm also securing the loss planking with CA to make sure that all the planking is secured. I'm going to need to figure out what I am going to do with the bulkheads that are in the way of 6 of the ports but shouldn't be too hard. I found I can't put supports in because the space is too tight. I'm going to just do the balsa and make it's glued real good. I also primed all the gunport liners and lions heads and will start working on them. Keith Black and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share #13 Posted January 25, 2022 Since this build is all about the details and the painting I have done some work on the painting. Still deciding between brown gunport or something like black or something like the ship color. Half the gun ports are done as well which is just the first of many projects on this build. scrubbyj427, GrandpaPhil and Keith Black 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share #14 Posted January 25, 2022 So I slept on the paint job I did with the lions and came to the conclusion that with the black it looks like the doge meme soooo yea here is the fixed lions that I will do from now on. Less is more and I have to remember that Baker, Keith Black, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share #15 Posted January 26, 2022 Got some work done on the gun ports which is nice. Now it's time to buckle down and get them all done. Fit some cannons in and they were sturdy so I'm happy with the result Only part I'm worried about is making sure all the cannons are same height up and down but I will attack that when the time comes. Keith Black, GrandpaPhil, ccoyle and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted January 26, 2022 Share #16 Posted January 26, 2022 6 hours ago, Robp1025 said: making sure all the cannons are same height up and down but I will attack that when the time comes. An attack on all these cannons?? Good luck and be careful 😉 Ps The cannon ports worked out well 👍 Robp1025 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted January 26, 2022 Share #17 Posted January 26, 2022 Hi Rob, I built this kit a long time ago. About painting all the plastic parts. Back then I used Humbrol enamel but if I were to do it today I'd go for the type of paint used by those Warhammer dudes or their alike. Water soluble and sticks equally good I think. And the hull and deck color? It was built of oak, that is as far as I know. White lead seems plausible for the bottom. But the topsides and deck I have no idea. Go for some weathering I'd say. Maybe no 3 in your picture above. Robp1025 1 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share #18 Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) Alright so I wasted a lot time doing steps that I did not need to do yet and then struggled because of the fact that this is a single planking. I'm only posting this because of the fact that I want to make sure I'm honest in this build log. I think seeing the ugly will make the finished product all the more commendable lol. Also did a lot of painting with the lions which was a interesting project in how well I can paint. Also I will not use plastic gunports ever again...they just bend and have a hard time holding their shape when fit into place. I got a lot of clean up and re painting but it's done and feeling good about the placement and all. Also learned a lot for the other side. Edited February 2, 2022 by Robp1025 Wintergreen, GrandpaPhil, Baker and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share #19 Posted February 5, 2022 Alright so cleaned up and good for this side now on to the next side but feeling better about all this for the most part. Baker, GrandpaPhil, Ian_Grant and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share #20 Posted February 5, 2022 And yes there was an accident with the bow cause it sticks out a lot lol. It's glueing back up with some wood glue but it's quite fragile regardless. Baker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted February 5, 2022 Share #21 Posted February 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Robp1025 said: And yes there was an accident with the bow cause it sticks out a lot lol. It's glueing back up with some wood glue but it's quite fragile regardless. Ouch! Those pokey bits. Mast and spars and bowsprits, always there to catch a wayward sleeve.. It has happened to most of us, I'd say. And your gun ports looks alright to me. Well done! Keep it up! Robp1025 1 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share #22 Posted February 12, 2022 So I got some progress on the other side. I am liking this a lot better do I might copy this sanding on the other side. I am going to work on painting and getting her in shape. Nice flat surface and equal to the other side as well. BLACK VIKING, GrandpaPhil, Wintergreen and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted February 12, 2022 Share #23 Posted February 12, 2022 Indeed, a very nice result 👍 Robp1025 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted February 12, 2022 Share #24 Posted February 12, 2022 Looks good Rob! What are your thoughts about the nails used to pin the outer strakes? When I bought my Wasa I did the same, nailing and then leaving them in. But now, I would try to remove them if I have a go at a refurbish of my old build. Keep it up! Robp1025 1 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted February 12, 2022 Share #25 Posted February 12, 2022 Not sure if you've found this site yet. But there is a lot of information to be found http://www.wasadream.com/Index/indexenglish.html Robp1025 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share #26 Posted February 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Wintergreen said: Looks good Rob! What are your thoughts about the nails used to pin the outer strakes? When I bought my Wasa I did the same, nailing and then leaving them in. But now, I would try to remove them if I have a go at a refurbish of my old build. Keep it up! So if I was to remove the nails it would create a lot of issues because I don't think wood glue was used to hold these planks in place so I think I will leave mine in plus it adds a little realism to it I think. Wintergreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snug Harbor Johnny Posted February 12, 2022 Share #27 Posted February 12, 2022 ... A site I'll revisit as I cobble my old build into better conformity. Yours is looking good! Johnny Robp1025 1 Quote Completed builds: Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share #28 Posted February 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Baker said: Not sure if you've found this site yet. But there is a lot of information to be found http://www.wasadream.com/Index/indexenglish.html Yes I have seen this site and also some more info as well thanks to posts from past builds. But thank you for sharing it I appreciate that! Baker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robp1025 Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share #29 Posted February 12, 2022 Because of how the other side came out so nice I was too convicted about the "ok" job I did on the other side that I decided we are going to attack that side with a better method lol..... So yea going backwards but tis the life of modellers.... Could I have left that side. Sure I could have... But I couldn't look at that for this whole build process and be ok with it. So if I got to go backwards then backwards I go. Keith Black, GrandpaPhil and Baker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted February 12, 2022 Share #30 Posted February 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Robp1025 said: Could I have left that side. Sure I could have... But I couldn't look at that for this whole build process and be ok with it. So if I got to go backwards then backwards I go. And you will not regret it! 🙂 Baker and Robp1025 2 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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