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I have the bottom two starboard garboard planks fit as good as I can do. It's not bad and I don't want to over correct. So, my question...should I attach them permanent OR should I get the two port garboard planks ready to go first. Either way I don't see that it matters....What do you do? 

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One question: how could you fit the second plank 'correctly' without permanently fixing the garboard plank? It is quite likely that, once the garboard plank is in place, you will need to make further adjustments to the next strake up.

 

Otherwise, it is always advisable to work symmetrically, to avoid distorting the frames. Also, it is easier to judge symmetry, when you alternate between starboard and port.

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2 hours ago, wefalck said:

One question: how could you fit the second plank 'correctly' without permanently fixing the garboard plank? It is quite likely that, once the garboard plank is in place, you will need to make further adjustments to the next strake up.

 

Otherwise, it is always advisable to work symmetrically, to avoid distorting the frames. Also, it is easier to judge symmetry, when you alternate between starboard and port.

If I was sitting at a long table crafting this model with others I would want you sitting next to me. This is the kind of advice I need. Symmetry...It seems so logical now that I know. Thanks Man.

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Rudy,

When you say two garboard planks on the starboard side  do you mean two strakes of planking or two pieces of planking making up the single garboard strake?   I may have missed something but I never read of two garboard strakes on each side.   For the single strake, the planks that make up the garboard are usually no more than 30 feet long so your ship and scale will determine the length of each plank of the garboard strake.   For  a better picture of what I am describing go to the RMG Collections site.  https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-83495  is a planking expansion drawing.  The lower set is the outboard planking and the garboard is the lowest strake and is made up of four pieces of planking mated to the rabbet.  Note that the forward end does not go very far up the stem.  Many models have the garboard going too far up the stem and wind up with planking that is more akin to a Viking ship which of course would be appropriate if you are building a Viking ship. 😀 

 

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9 hours ago, allanyed said:

Rudy,

When you say two garboard planks on the starboard side  do you mean two strakes of planking or two pieces of planking making up the single garboard strake?   I may have missed something but I never read of two garboard strakes on each side.   For the single strake, the planks that make up the garboard are usually no more than 30 feet long so your ship and scale will determine the length of each plank of the garboard strake.   For  a better picture of what I am describing go to the RMG Collections site.  https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-83495  is a planking expansion drawing.  The lower set is the outboard planking and the garboard is the lowest strake and is made up of four pieces of planking mated to the rabbet.  Note that the forward end does not go very far up the stem.  Many models have the garboard going too far up the stem and wind up with planking that is more akin to a Viking ship which of course would be appropriate if you are building a Viking ship. 😀 

 

Allan

 

Two strakes of planking. I have been dry fitting two stakes on top each side and one at the garboard both sides and the one above the garboard strake. I move back and forth which may not be good practice. I do it because I don't want to overdue anyone piece which I have found is a shortcoming of mine. If I leave something for a day and come back to it I can see it in a different light and realize something like...no more off here, it needs to come off here. I have found that a problem may not be originating from where I think it is. For example: the plank doesn't need to be any thinner that groove it is going into needs to be deeper. I can also be really unclear when asking questions even with a proofread. I have been keeping bottom strakes as straight as I can so they don't ride up the stem. I hope I answered your question. And thanks for asking

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Rudy,

Have you had a look at the planking tutorials here:   https://modelshipworld.com/forum/98-planking-downloads-and-tutorials-and-videos/

They should help answer your questions.

Mark
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On 2/28/2022 at 7:24 AM, rudybob said:

If I was sitting at a long table crafting this model with others I would want you sitting next to me. This is the kind of advice I need. Symmetry...It seems so logical now that I know. Thanks Man.

You ARE sitting at a long crafting table with others...1000s of others...with Wefalck sitting next to you.  That is what MSW is all about.

 

Welcome aboard.  :cheers:

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