Name the Ship Game

[Captain Slog]

Okay here we go again.

 

I would like to present to you an excellent example of post modern urban architecture...oh my mistake it's a ship!

 

This is no doubt a very easy one being so distinctive but I wish these type of juxtaposed ships were available to build as models.

 

 

Cheers

Slog

[Werik]

My, my... a conjoined twin ship. Wonder if they used a coin toss to decide which would be the bow, and which would be the stern.

[mtaylor]

Given the tumblehome and the windows (not portholes), I suspect it's French?

[Werik]

A French Marceau class battleship. The Hoche, perhaps?

[Captain Slog]

Hi Werik, it is indeed Hoche.

 

Its like the design went round a whole load of people individually who without speaking to each other were allowed to stick something of theirs on it without modifying anything. "sacrebleu this ship needs another bay window to mock the peasants from"

 

Slog

[Werik]

Lol, designed by committee indeed. Going to bed, I know, sleep is overrated. I'll get a ship up tommorrow, no, wait... later today.

[Werik]

All right then, here's one to help you keep cool this summer.

[algeciras1801]

That Hoche is an amazing looking ship....and i don't mean that in a good way!

[Werik]

Won the Ugly Contest, that's for sure.

[st george]

Available as a model if anyone wants.

http://battleship-models.com/en/french-navy/208-battleship-hoche.html

[Captain Slog]

Hi Werik,

 

Is it the Nordic Orion first cargo ship to cross the Northwest Passage?

 

Cheers

Slog

 

 

Edit

David, thanks for the link.  I think it's the ugliness of these things, which makes them more interesting.

Edited July 6, 2014 by Captain Slog

[Timothy Wood]

LONDON — An ice-strengthened sea freighter has become the first bulk carrier to traverse the Northwest Passage through Canada’s Arctic waters, heralding a new era of commercial activity in the Arctic.

Travelling with a Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker, the 75,000 deadweight-tonne Nordic Orion left Vancouver on Sept. 17 carrying 15,000 metric tons of coal. It is currently off Nuuk, Greenland, where it let a Canadian Arctic adviser off board.

 

Cheers,

Tim

[Werik]

It is the Nordic Orion, Captain Slog, you got it first. She was the second ship, the first being the SS Manhattan in 1969. Her journey has gotten the environmental crowd all twisted up. On the other hand I think it is a good illustration of balancing the economics of sea transport. By going this route she has been able carry 15,000 tons more coal, and has saved $440,000 in fuel costs than going the Panama Canal route. Makes the owners happy, I'm sure, and ultimately decreases cost to the coal consumers . 

[Captain Slog]

Thanks Werik,

 

Okay here we go, one more of the same, last one I promise. Got it out of my system now.

 

 

Cheers

Slog

[amateur]

It looks very much like an Cyclops-class coastal defence iron-clad...

 

Jan

[Werik]

Captain Slog, don't quit posting them. I think they were an artform in a time when so many thing must have seemed possible. Remember, this is probably around the time of Jules Verne and his imaginative science fiction. As a matter of fact, these ships could have stepped right out of a Jules Verne book.

[Captain Slog]

It looks very much like an Cyclops-class coastal defence iron-clad...

 

Jan

Hi Jan,

 

Not Cyclops class, which is a bit too early and British.

 

Captain Slog, don't quit posting them. I think they were an artform in a time when so many thing must have seemed possible. Remember, this is probably around the time of Jules Verne and his imaginative science fiction. As a matter of fact, these ships could have stepped right out of a Jules Verne book.

Hi Werik, the Jules Verne reference is quite a nice way to think of these ships.  They certainly have a Victorian Steampunk look about them.

 

Cheers

Slog

[st george]

Could it be another French Ship?

[amateur]

It's not british, so French would be an option.

 

btw: what was the reason the French went for these extreme ships?

Large tumblehome on many of them,

in this case a very low freeboard, combined with a very high superstructure.

 

Jan

Edited July 7, 2014 by amateur

[Captain Slog]

Hi guys,

 

French it is.

 

Slog

[Doreltomin]

Wow... that's indeed a strange beast... Could her be the Garde-côtes "Tonerre" (coast guard "Thunder") of Cherbourg, 1875? 

Edited July 8, 2014 by Doreltomin

[Captain Slog]

Hi Doreltomin,

 

you are so very close.  I will give it to you as no point making you go through them.  It is the 'Fulminant'.  Apparently the ship I posted is of the Tonerre class. I didn't even know it was Tonerre class until I googled it.

 

I was getting worried as I saved the picture ages ago and now can't find the source.

 

Over to you...

 

Cheers

Slog

[Doreltomin]

Hello captain Slog, indeed, there were three in this class, the Tonnerre the Tempête and the Fulminant which are very difficult to make the difference between as they were all alike. At least, I am not able to make any difference between them, so thank you for allowing just the class to be recognized and not the ship herself.

 

Actually when going with French ships you ventured into a territory which is well known to me: since a youngster it happened to have in my library a big beautiful book called "Historie de la Marine française illustree" by Ronciere & Clerc-Rampal, Paris 1934. This inspired me to further research into the wonderful world of 19th century French warship beasts. These are indeed second to none when comes to bizarre and sometimes ugly appearance!

 

We now turn to the next mystery photo. Please note that for the beginning I have tampered with the picture and erased all the obvious features like the name or the flag. Also, I have attempted to make it less vulnerable to "image research".

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 9, 2014 by Doreltomin

[amateur]

Hi Doreltomin,

 

Since you apear to have a book on the subject ( ) can you enlighten me with respect to the question: what made the French decide for ships with such an extreme tumble-home?

 

Jan

[amateur]

I first thought of SS Maheno, but that's not her...

 

Jan

[Doreltomin]

Hello Jan, no, it's not the SS Maheno.. you are actually quite far from her.

 

As for the extreme look of some French ships, without making a very long history here, you must think of the peculiar situation in which the French marine was after Trafalgar. The English were the masters of the sea in all respects while the French were forced to play the game in the second league. It's not a surprise therefore that the English Admiralty were crippled in the old fashioned ways of thinking, being the victims of their own success, while the French were defeated and therefore the new generations of officers were anxious to explore new ways. This was the Nouvelle ecole (New School) which during the 19th century explored ship shapes and technical solutions which, if successful, could bring France back in the premier league. The extreme tumble-home was thought at the time to have two advantages: one was that the bulging underwater hull could give a greater stability, the second was making ship boarding more difficult.

[amateur]

Thanks.

 

Jan

[Doreltomin]

My pleasure, Jan, as always!

 

Now can we return to our sheep.... oops... nobody? did I kill the game?

May be of interest for you to know that she had another sister, and she was somehow related to the route of a train?

Edited July 11, 2014 by Doreltomin

[Werik]

No Doreltomin, you didn't kill the game. Been searching high and low for this one. Just not high enough or low enough. 

[Captain Slog]

No Doreltomin, you didn't kill the game. Been searching high and low for this one. 

Same here