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Posted

Thank you very much for all your nice comments and hitting the „Like“ Button. :)

 

Hi henryjames, I‘m looking forward to seeing your build log.

Hi Row, first of all you are a lucky man been aboard of Endeavour. Well, it‘s an odd hull form and - believe me - not everything looks perfect. But overall I‘m happy with the result and in doubt I can paint the whole hull.

Hi klimi, I‘m building her as the Endeavour of 1934.

Erik, the part straight above the rudder was indeed tricky to plank. As you can see on the photo, this part is moulded using wood filler.

 

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Fortunately the vaneer stripes are very easy to bend.

 

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Finally the last two photos:

 

The planked stern...

 

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 and the evidence...

 

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...that the slot is still open!

Cheers, Richard.

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Current build: Mercury, Russian brigAmerica's Cup Yacht Endeavour (1934), Amati

Completed build: HM Schooner Pickle, JoTiKa

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Posted

Nicely Done! I think when I get there I will just plank over the slot. :)

Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren

Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18

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Posted

Richard - I must confess you have got interested enough to peek inside my box for this kit. (very dangerous). So tell me a bit more detail about your first layer of planking. Did you start at the deck line? From what I see the instructions are very limited, less than 1 page in English.

Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren

Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18

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Posted (edited)

Thank you very much for your big interest, Alfons, Kerry and Floyd. :)

 

You are right Floyd, the instructions are very limited. I started with the bulb area covering and then down from the deck line. I did the same with the second planking.

 

Well, painting the hull. In fact Endeavour have a steel hull but one option of the kit is leaving the bottom covered with the mahogany planking. The photo shows how big this area is.

 

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I didn't measure the waterline exactly, but I think it's a little to low on this photo.

Edited by The Sailor

Cheers, Richard.

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Current build: Mercury, Russian brigAmerica's Cup Yacht Endeavour (1934), Amati

Completed build: HM Schooner Pickle, JoTiKa

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Posted

Excellent work Richard - will you be marking the waterline with a white stripe? She's really shaping up.

hamilton

current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch)
 
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Posted

Very Nice! so your Planking is done. Thanks for the info. She actually look like a very easy build. Have you decided what Blue paint you are going to use?

Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren

Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18

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Posted

Why not paint first? Then you don't have to mask the deck.

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Posted

Why not paint first? Then you don't have to mask the deck.

 

Haha, I‘m following the instructions. ;)

 

The photo shows the reason:

 

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The stripes along the rail edges are part of the deck with one difference: They are blue like the hull above the waterline. That means planking the deck first and then sanding the complete deck to get everything to the same level. After this part is done I can paint the hull. The reverse order would spoil the coat of paint.

Cheers, Richard.

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Current build: Mercury, Russian brigAmerica's Cup Yacht Endeavour (1934), Amati

Completed build: HM Schooner Pickle, JoTiKa

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Posted (edited)

Richard.

 

Is the deck planked with mahogany as well? Will it be painted or left natural?

 

Anyways, I am very keen to follow your planking progress :) The size of your Endeavour certainly allows for a deatailed and beautiful deck planking.

 

Keep up the good work.

/Alfons

Edited by Alfons

Current Build: Gloucester Fishing Schooner - Blue Jacket - Scale 1:48

 

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Posted

Richard.

Is the deck planked with mahogany as well? Will it be painted or left natural?

/Alfons

Unfortunately not. The kit supplied wood for the deck ia a very bad joke! I think, I'll purchase some better wood for planking. I show some photos the next days.

Cheers, Richard.

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Current build: Mercury, Russian brigAmerica's Cup Yacht Endeavour (1934), Amati

Completed build: HM Schooner Pickle, JoTiKa

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Posted

Hi Richard, looks very good! 

 

About the waterline, don't know if you've thought about it already, but I think the waterline is supposed to be wider towards the stern because of the perspective. See what I mean? I cheated and just taped a waterline along the whole hull on my 1:80 Endeavour and it actually looks a bit strange. I think that effect may be more striking on your huge monster of a yacht ;-). 

 

About the "posh-line" (that's the Swedish directly translated word for it), i.e the very thin one just below deck, my father came up with a good technique. On a smooth surface he placed a long stripe of wide masking tape. Using a scalpel and ruler he then removed the "posh-line" with two cuts 0.5mm a part. Then he taped over the whole thing with a second layer wide masking tape. That way he could lift the whole masking, place it on the hull and remove the second layer tape. That way he was left with a properly masked "posh-line".

 

Finally, I'm doing something wrong when planking my Britannia. Would you mind having a look in my log? Of course everybody else is more than welcome to tell me what I'm doing wrong too!

 

Cheers

Posted

Richard,

Outstanding choice for leaving the lower hull mahogany, it will high-lite your nice planking job!  :) 

 

Cheers,

Tim

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Posted

 

 

About the "posh-line" (that's the Swedish directly translated word for it), i.e the very thin one just below deck, my father came up with a good technique. On a smooth surface he placed a long stripe of wide masking tape. Using a scalpel and ruler he then removed the "posh-line" with two cuts 0.5mm a part. Then he taped over the whole thing with a second layer wide masking tape. That way he could lift the whole masking, place it on the hull and remove the second layer tape. That way he was left with a properly masked "posh-line".

Just a 'for your information' the correct name for 'posh-line' is a 'Cove Line'. Traditionally it was carved / engraved into one of the upper planks and then finished with gold leaf once the hull had been painted. It's only really been since the advent of 'plastic' boats that we've seen the advent of PVC tapes etc. For all of our advances in technology, in my experience, there is nothing that lasts as well as the traditional gold leaf.

 

Regards,

 

Row

1:28 Scale J class yacht 'Enterprise' (R/C)

Build log currently at: http://www.rcsailing.net/forum1/showthread.php?6264-1-28-J-Class-Enterprise-build-log

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted (edited)

Good afternoon

here‘s a small update after a long time. I‘m not in the mood for planking the deck so I decided to start with the deckhouse and the skylights.

The parts of the deckhouse:

 

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Assembled deckhouse and skylights:

 

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The components are now ready for staining

 

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Edited by The Sailor

Cheers, Richard.

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Current build: Mercury, Russian brigAmerica's Cup Yacht Endeavour (1934), Amati

Completed build: HM Schooner Pickle, JoTiKa

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Posted

Richard - I am going to blame it on you. While I have been fussing and fuming over the final 8 planks on the 2nd layer of my Harvey. I have been enjoying your log so much that guess what? I got my Endeavor out and was tinkering with it. Well guess what? In about 90 min I had all the frames installed and glued! I am now at the point of fairing the frames and then begin planking. And yes I will be starting a build log. But the admiral must not find out!! So SHHH. I have owned the Harvey for about 20 years. You could say she has been my nemesis. The admiral knows this and is pushing me to finish it finally.

 

Anyway I tell you all this for another reason. I was disappointed with the quality of the wood for the deck furniture and I have ordered replacement wood from Hobby Mill. It is a fine kit, everything fits together very nicely. But the cabins are Mahogany plywood. I am even considering replacing the deck planking.

 

And of course I just got a new assignment at work that will be very demanding of my time. So all modeling will be slowing down. Just remember its your fault! ;)

Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren

Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18

On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, 

 

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Posted

Richard - I am going to blame it on you. While I have been fussing and fuming over the final 8 planks on the 2nd layer of my Harvey. I have been enjoying your log so much that guess what? I got my Endeavor out and was tinkering with it. Well guess what? In about 90 min I had all the frames installed and glued! I am now at the point of fairing the frames and then begin planking. And yes I will be starting a build log. But the admiral must not find out!! So SHHH. I have owned the Harvey for about 20 years. You could say she has been my nemesis. The admiral knows this and is pushing me to finish it finally.

 

Floyd,

 

No more excuses and beating around the bushes with the Admiral, work, and wood quality....! It is time to start that Build Log with lots of pictures.

 

Yves

Posted

Ok Ok, Yves. Week after next she is going to be out of town visiting family. I can safely take the Endeavor out of hiding and upload some pictures. I might even fair the bulkheads and lay a plank or 2.

Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren

Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18

On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, 

 

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  • 3 weeks later...
Posted (edited)

Ok All as requested my build log is started. I will not continue to clog up Richard's build log.

 

But Richard I do have a couple questions if you could help me. I am planning on starting my planking this weekend.

 

Questions:

 

1. On your first strake of planks at the deck. Did you build it to be exactly flush with the false deck? I have looked at the plans etc. and it is not quite clear on this subject. My thinking it that I may need to adjust a bit to take into account the thickness of the deck planking.

 

2. On planking the bulb. How did you know when to switch from the "B" planks to the "A" planks. did you just use B until you ran out? Also did you taper the edges of the B planking. The area around the bulb is pretty rounded. So I can see the need for the narrower planking. Now I am wondering if you need to bevel these planks lengthwise.

 

3. Did you use proportional dividers or Tick strips to measure the tapering? How many planks did you find you had to taper? Did you have any drop planks or stealers?

Edited by Floyd Kershner

Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren

Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18

On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, 

 

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Posted

Good afternoon

 

here‘s a small update after a long time. I‘m not in the mood for planking the deck so I decided to start with the deckhouse and the skylights.

 

The parts of the deckhouse:

 

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Nice work o the deck housing Richard

 

does the kit also provide brass framing for Windows and Skylights ?

 

Nils

 

 

Assembled deckhouse and skylights:

 

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The components are now ready for staining

 

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Posted

Call me old fashion but I always liked funstion with beauty.  Yachts like the Endeavor were the epitome of their type.   The modern racing vessels with there lines and high tech materil may blow the J class yacht out of the water.  But the J Class has lines grace and style.  I would lone to be aboard one of them today let alone own one.  Does anyone have an unending bank account?

David B

Posted (edited)

Sorry for the late response Alfons.

It's too late now - the parts are stained already. BTW, the waste would be too big. ;)

 

Many questions Floyd.

Well, the first plank is indeed flushing with the false deck on my Endeavour. That was my interpretation of the vague instructions...

 

For planking the bulb area you need narrow stripes. The stripes can be used just out of the box without tapering. Switching from "A" to "B" I did intuitionally. Beveling the stripes lenghtwise is only the first step you have to do, next is sanding down the 2mm stripes to the level of the "A" planking (1mm).

 

I tapered about 10 planks of the second planking without any stealers. I think, I was just lucky with it.

 

 

Thanks for stopping by David and Gary. Gary don't be afraid starting your own build log.

Edited by The Sailor

Cheers, Richard.

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Current build: Mercury, Russian brigAmerica's Cup Yacht Endeavour (1934), Amati

Completed build: HM Schooner Pickle, JoTiKa

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Posted

Thanks for the answers. I spent most of the weekend planking and I decided the same thing. Flush with the false deck. And I didn't bevel. I only plan on 1 layer of planking. And I didn't install the drop keel. I am going to install about 10 planks of "B" on both sides. And yes I am looking forward to all that sanding. :huh:

Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren

Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18

On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, 

 

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Posted

Richard - So here are more questions. :)

 

Its so nice you have blaised the trail for me.

 

On Bulkhead #14 when you are switching from planking B to A. Near the bottom of the Keel. there is a fairly abrupt transition from the bulkhead to the False keel (part #35). did you use a filler? Or just clamp it down flat?

 

On the first layer of planking going from the double bulkhead to the bow. How did you terminate the planks at the bow? Did you taper the false keel to a sharp point so that the planks would terminate on each side or did you try to get them to lay flat like a herring bone? I hope this makes sense. it is hard to describe. 

Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren

Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18

On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, 

 

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