Ian B Posted March 7, 2023 Share #1 Posted March 7, 2023 At last the waiting is over for me, my new workshop is ready, my last build complete, the corner of the dinning room and the table has been returned to my long suffering Wife, so a fresh start all round . I have watched @hof00@ted99 @rvchima and @Joe100 builds and comments now its my turn LOL So let the fun begin KeithAug, yvesvidal, Panteg Models and 6 others 9 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
targa4403 Posted March 7, 2023 Share #2 Posted March 7, 2023 Hello, I too am in the process of building the Bismarck. Here is a link to a group of videos that someone has put together on building the model ship. Hope it helps. Canute, wernerweiss, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernerweiss Posted March 7, 2023 Share #3 Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) Hello Ian B, targa4403, I built this model a few years ago, you will find pictures of it in the gallery. Enjoy your build, Regards Werner Edited March 7, 2023 by wernerweiss Complemented the text Canute, mtaylor, hof00 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share #4 Posted March 7, 2023 31 minutes ago, targa4403 said: Hello, I too am in the process of building the Bismarck. Here is a link to a group of videos that someone has put together on building the model ship. Hope it helps. Fab-- will do Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted March 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, wernerweiss said: Hello Ian B, targa4403, I built this model a few years ago, you will find pictures of it in the gallery. Enjoy your build, Regards Werner Super-thanks Werner- I will definitely check it out targa4403, hof00, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe100 Posted March 7, 2023 Share #6 Posted March 7, 2023 If you need any technical assistance, let me know. hof00, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share #7 Posted March 7, 2023 52 minutes ago, Joe100 said: If you need any technical assistance, let me know. I certainly will.. initially when I install the bow as I want to incorporate the underwater sonar panels and bits hof00, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted March 7, 2023 Share #8 Posted March 7, 2023 11 hours ago, Ian B said: At last the waiting is over for me, my new workshop is ready, my last build complete, the corner of the dinning room and the table has been returned to my long suffering Wife, so a fresh start all round . I have watched @hof00@ted99 @rvchima and @Joe100 builds and comments now its my turn LOL So let the fun begin Nice one Ian!! I'll be following your build with interest. (Ps. I'm still struggling with the Main Deck Rail Stanchions and provided "Thread." I have ordered the Eduard 1/200 Chain Link Railing from Super Hobby out of sheer frustration. The photos of this stuff look good anyway. I will post my experiences when I receive this in two - four weeks, hopefully....) Cheers and Regards, Harry. mtaylor, Ian B and Canute 3 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share #9 Posted March 8, 2023 11 hours ago, hof00 said: Nice one Ian!! I'll be following your build with interest. (Ps. I'm still struggling with the Main Deck Rail Stanchions and provided "Thread." I have ordered the Eduard 1/200 Chain Link Railing from Super Hobby out of sheer frustration. The photos of this stuff look good anyway. I will post my experiences when I receive this in two - four weeks, hopefully....) Cheers and Regards, Harry. As we go along I am relying on everyone here shouting when I get to any bit/section that either needs correcting or advice where you had issues-- Make my life a fraction easier 'Standing on the shoulders of Giants' I think the expression goes... Canute, mtaylor, hof00 and 1 other 4 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share #10 Posted March 8, 2023 Well I started the easy bit----- Wow was it not straight when I joined the two parts together- I know she went round in circles before she sunk-- she would have gone round in circles when she was launched LOl hof00, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
targa4403 Posted March 8, 2023 Share #11 Posted March 8, 2023 13 hours ago, hof00 said: Nice one Ian!! I'll be following your build with interest. (Ps. I'm still struggling with the Main Deck Rail Stanchions and provided "Thread." I have ordered the Eduard 1/200 Chain Link Railing from Super Hobby out of sheer frustration. The photos of this stuff look good anyway. I will post my experiences when I receive this in two - four weeks, hopefully....) Cheers and Regards, Harry. what a great idea. I know exactly what you mean. How many sheets did you require for this task? Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted March 8, 2023 Author Share #12 Posted March 8, 2023 Blimey --Parts 4 to 5 (vertical frame for the stern section) just as bad as the two deck halves earlier. What a terrible fit for such and expensive kit !!! VID_20230308_140719476 (1).mp4 mtaylor, Canute and hof00 3 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted March 9, 2023 Share #13 Posted March 9, 2023 13 hours ago, targa4403 said: what a great idea. I know exactly what you mean. How many sheets did you require for this task? Hi Targa, I have the many Stanchions, double/single, easy to space and drill, but, having pre-painted, all the tny holes are partially clogged. I don't have a drill bit small enough and a pin is too large. So, out of sheer frustration I made the Eduard order, for Trumpeter but should be fine for Amati, same length, etc. The Hull is about 2.5m both sides inc. so how many sheets? I don't know. Enough for 2.5m? I guess I'll see when it arrives. (Apologies for hijacking your thread, Ian.) Cheers and Regards, Harry. . Canute, Ian B and mtaylor 3 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted March 9, 2023 Share #14 Posted March 9, 2023 11 hours ago, Ian B said: Blimey --Parts 4 to 5 (vertical frame for the stern section) just as bad as the two deck halves earlier. What a terrible fit for such and expensive kit !!! VID_20230308_140719476 (1).mp4 Hi Ian, Not such a wonderful fit at all. Should be relatively easy to rectify? Cheers....HOF. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share #15 Posted March 9, 2023 5 hours ago, hof00 said: Hi Targa, I have the many Stanchions, double/single, easy to space and drill, but, having pre-painted, all the tny holes are partially clogged. I don't have a drill bit small enough and a pin is too large. So, out of sheer frustration I made the Eduard order, for Trumpeter but should be fine for Amati, same length, etc. The Hull is about 2.5m both sides inc. so how many sheets? I don't know. Enough for 2.5m? I guess I'll see when it arrives. (Apologies for hijacking your thread, Ian.) Cheers and Regards, Harry. ... No happy to have side conversations were all doing the same build ... Canute, hof00 and mtaylor 3 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuglo Posted March 9, 2023 Share #16 Posted March 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ian B said: No happy to have side conversations were all doing the same build ... I'm spending more time correcting the wooden parts than I would have if I made them from scratch. The design is really good, the the fun in the project drains away with the frustration and annoyance. The old kits I built were far less inaccurate. ? Imperfect or inappropriate use of modern technology + lack of consideration for the purchaser/builder? Canute, mtaylor, Ian B and 1 other 4 Quote current build- Swan ,scratch on shelf,Rattlesnake, Alert semi scratch,Le Coureur,, Fubbs scratch completed: nostrum mare,victory(Corel), san felipe, sovereign of the seas, sicilian cargo boat ,royal yacht caroline, armed pinnace, charles morgan whaler, galilee boat, wappen von hamburg, la reale (Dusek), amerigo vespucci, oneida (semi scratch) diane, great harry-elizabethan galleon (semi scratch), agammemnon, hanna (scratch).19th cent. shipyard diorama (Constructo), picket boat, victory bow section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share #17 Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, stuglo said: I'm spending more time correcting the wooden parts than I would have if I made them from scratch. The design is really good, the the fun in the project drains away with the frustration and annoyance. The old kits I built were far less inaccurate. ? Imperfect or inappropriate use of modern technology + lack of consideration for the purchaser/builder? LOL-- but I'm pragmatic- Just take it one step at a time.. Mind you there should be no excuse for any manufacturer not to have correctly fitting laser cut parts. hof00, mtaylor, wernerweiss and 1 other 4 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
targa4403 Posted March 9, 2023 Share #18 Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 10:14 AM, Ian B said: Blimey --Parts 4 to 5 (vertical frame for the stern section) just as bad as the two deck halves earlier. What a terrible fit for such and expensive kit !!! VID_20230308_140719476 (1).mp4 I put little wedges in the gaps to tighten the joints. Seems to have worked for me. Canute, Ian B, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuglo Posted March 22, 2023 Share #19 Posted March 22, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 9:36 AM, stuglo said: I'm spending more time correcting the wooden parts than I would have if I made them from scratch. The design is really good, the the fun in the project drains away with the frustration and annoyance. The old kits I built were far less inaccurate. ? Imperfect or inappropriate use of modern technology + lack of consideration for the purchaser/builder? In fairness, I must update these comments, because as I proceed with the build, the PE and plastic parts are really compensating for the initial frustration. The amount of work and expertise that must have gone into the planning details is phenomenal. The issue with the wood should be easily rectified; then the kit will be perfect. mtaylor, Canute and hof00 3 Quote current build- Swan ,scratch on shelf,Rattlesnake, Alert semi scratch,Le Coureur,, Fubbs scratch completed: nostrum mare,victory(Corel), san felipe, sovereign of the seas, sicilian cargo boat ,royal yacht caroline, armed pinnace, charles morgan whaler, galilee boat, wappen von hamburg, la reale (Dusek), amerigo vespucci, oneida (semi scratch) diane, great harry-elizabethan galleon (semi scratch), agammemnon, hanna (scratch).19th cent. shipyard diorama (Constructo), picket boat, victory bow section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share #20 Posted March 29, 2023 First planking of the hull ticked off Canute, ccoyle, wernerweiss and 3 others 4 2 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted March 29, 2023 Share #21 Posted March 29, 2023 Looking really good!! Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted April 3, 2023 Author Share #22 Posted April 3, 2023 slightly confused during dry fit of top decks--- advice anyone? The hull is perfectly flat and so are the deck main and stern sections --yet the bow kicks up quite a bit it seems far to much for just a bit of sanding-- is it supposed to? I cant work out if it is wrong or right (i suspect wrong lol ). I just need to check the whole deck is supposed to be flat before I take lots of corrective action? Canute, mtaylor, etubino and 1 other 4 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernerweiss Posted April 3, 2023 Share #23 Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) Hello Ian, The sheer from the center towards the bow is right and there should be a sheer toward the stern as well, but this is not as distinctive as the sheer forward. I would say there is no problem if you build a flat deck in the aft section. I suggest to have a look on the models of Peter Beisheim or Rüdiger Eschker for example.... Edited April 3, 2023 by wernerweiss mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted April 3, 2023 Share #24 Posted April 3, 2023 it appears to supposed to have a sheer at both ends according to this 1st drawing. also link to download complete set of plans. https://archive.org/details/yn509bogp193x yvesvidal, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted April 3, 2023 Author Share #25 Posted April 3, 2023 Super thanks both.i can sort the rear shear and leave the front 😁 mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted April 3, 2023 Share #26 Posted April 3, 2023 no problem. Canute, Ian B and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted April 3, 2023 Share #27 Posted April 3, 2023 Ian, if the middle & stern decks are not glued down to the frames then could put shims in under the decks to build up the right amount of sheer for those 2 deck pieces. Ian B, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe100 Posted April 4, 2023 Share #28 Posted April 4, 2023 Be careful of using those drawings. Those are first drafts, and not how the ship appeared. I recently used those at a university talk I gave on Bismarck to demonstrate how much was changed. Canute, Ian B and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted April 4, 2023 Author Share #29 Posted April 4, 2023 Whilst waiting for the glue to dry , I have been working on the Bow casting. 1. mooring hole drilled 2.first filing of the sonar sensors 3. drilled the hole for the bugspiere. mtaylor, Canute, yvesvidal and 3 others 6 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted April 4, 2023 Share #30 Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) i don't see any sonar ports in the bulbous bow in this link. https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-launching-of-the-battleship-bismarck-in-hamburg-1939-37005865.html?imageid=6980C079-3173-4F05-ADDA-EB82E5E33A88&p=291611&pn=1&searchId=6e2d733b32b38bc8390c317c0395e4c5&searchtype=0 read this link as ship supposedly did not have active sonar. http://www.kbismarck.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140 Edited April 4, 2023 by ddp Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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