Ferrus Manus Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share #91 Posted June 7, 2023 Goes to show how ahead of the game you were in the world of ship modelling at my age. Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share #92 Posted June 7, 2023 So, today i got the fore course mounted to the mast. First, i tied the halyard at one point to the yard. Then, i threaded the halyard through one of the sheaves in the side of the mast, and held it in place. It was at this point that i began prep for the parrel. I threaded the halyard through the violin block and back through the second sheave in the mast, before tying it back to the yard. More in the next few minutes. GrandpaPhil, Jeff T and Archi 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share #93 Posted June 7, 2023 Then, after that, i rigged the lanyard to the knighthead, and made up the block and tackle, raising the yard into its position. I also i did the braces for the yard. I also did the tackles for the parrel, which are the two sets of double blocks on the deck. They fall to a pair of cleats on the mast. Jeff T, Archi, Baker and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share #94 Posted June 7, 2023 The next task is to rig the sheets and tacks, before belaying the clews and finally, the buntlines, martnets, and bowlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted June 7, 2023 Share #95 Posted June 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Louie da fly said: Congratulations. That possibly makes you the youngest member of MSW (at least that I know of!) About the same age as I was when I built my Great Harry. Steven I’m sorry but I think I beat Ferrus in being the youngest MSW member. 😄 Ferrus Manus 1 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 7, 2023 Author Share #96 Posted June 7, 2023 @Isaiah yep! By JUST one year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted June 8, 2023 Share #97 Posted June 8, 2023 19 hours ago, Isaiah said: I’m sorry but I think I beat Ferrus in being the youngest MSW member. Well, congratulations to you too! Good to see younger people in the hobby as well as us old f*rts. 21 hours ago, Ferrus Manus said: Goes to show how ahead of the game you were in the world of ship modelling at my age. Ferrus, nice work on the rigging. I had to wait till now to get into it in that kind of detail. The first time I'd been prepared to nut out the full rigging on a square-rigger was about 2 years ago, towards the end of my Great Harry restoration. So you're well ahead of where I was at this age. Steven Ferrus Manus and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 8, 2023 Author Share #98 Posted June 8, 2023 Stay here for a bit, Steven. The main course's heavy lines are rigged. The lighter lines (buntlines, martnets, bowlines) come next. GrandpaPhil, Baker, Knocklouder and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 10, 2023 Author Share #99 Posted June 10, 2023 I got the fore course done today. Surprisingly, there wasn't much more to it than the courses on the Golden Hinde. All that was left to do was the buntlines, topping lifts, martnets, and bowlines. GrandpaPhil, Jeff T and Baker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 10, 2023 Author Share #100 Posted June 10, 2023 The one frustrating thing is that most artists, even Vroom, omitted many small/light lines in the interest of simplicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted June 10, 2023 Share #101 Posted June 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Ferrus Manus said: The one frustrating thing is that most artists, even Vroom, omitted many small/light lines in the interest of simplicity. Of the current artists, Ferrus has skipped little or nothing Ferrus Manus and Jeff T 2 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 10, 2023 Author Share #102 Posted June 10, 2023 Bedankt, Baker. Now, i legitimately believe this vessel will be much more complex and insane than your Pelican, only because it is a much larger and more heavily rigged vessel. Also, i figured out how to run the bowlines up to the fighting tops without them fouling on their respective sails, which was your issue on the Pelican. You simply need to run them through the lubbers' holes instead of running them over the tops of the structures themselves. Also, the main course will be slightly easier to rig than the fore, owing to its increased size as well as the fact that the belaying area is larger than the relatively small forecastle. Baker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 10, 2023 Author Share #103 Posted June 10, 2023 This vessel comes from that nightmarish period when the Mary Rose had stopped being a useful source material, but before admiralty models became a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 10, 2023 Author Share #104 Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) I guess you could refer to this as a work of art, and you wouldn't be wrong. However, i see it as more of a living sculpture or a 3D technical drawing. I will admit, i do feel proud of myself when some of my images look like enhanced close-ups of a Vroom painting. Edited June 10, 2023 by Ferrus Manus Baker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share #105 Posted June 13, 2023 Little update, here. I won't be able to work on the ship until probably Wednesday, for lack of blocks. Will get more then, likely. Main course coming up next! (wordplay fully intended) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share #106 Posted June 14, 2023 I bent the main course to the yard. On the left of the yard, you will see two paint bottles on their side. This is intentional. After i lashed the sail, i inserted the foot of said sail between the two paint bottles. Then, i draped the sail over the one on the right. Leaving it for the good majority of a day resulted in the curve you see in the sail. The purpose of this was not to finalize the curvature of the sail, but instead to encourage it to remember a rough shape, making it more willing to obey the lines that will eventually attach to the free corners of the sail, which will finalize the billow. GrandpaPhil, Jeff T, Louie da fly and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 27, 2023 Author Share #107 Posted June 27, 2023 Been really tired the past several weeks, so i haven't done anything on the build. Anyway, i recently acquired a 1/50 scale viking ship. Simple build. Should i do that in the meantime to calm my nerves, or should i continue with the galleon and then do the viking ship when it's done? GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted June 27, 2023 Share #108 Posted June 27, 2023 Build whatever makes you happy. Also, regarding references for the post-Mary Rose era, the Revenge might be a useful example. Peter Kirsch’s “The Galleon” has been very useful for me, too. Ferrus Manus 1 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 27, 2023 Author Share #109 Posted June 27, 2023 Oh come on, dude. I need an opinion, not affirmation. Thank you for the encouragement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted June 27, 2023 Share #110 Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) Personally, I would finish the galleon, it’s almost done. However, if it is no longer fun, then build the Viking ship. Edited June 27, 2023 by GrandpaPhil Ferrus Manus 1 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted June 27, 2023 Share #111 Posted June 27, 2023 If you stop your galleon now.Then there is a chance that you will not start again. I would finish this first. GrandpaPhil, Ferrus Manus, Isaiah and 1 other 3 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 27, 2023 Author Share #112 Posted June 27, 2023 Onward with the galleon!! GrandpaPhil, Baker and Knocklouder 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted June 27, 2023 Share #113 Posted June 27, 2023 (edited) I agree with Patrick, you’re not too far away from completion so finish the galleon. then your next build will feel much more straight forward and organised. Edited June 27, 2023 by Isaiah Ferrus Manus, Baker and GrandpaPhil 2 1 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 by Isaiah - Vanguard models - 1:64 Completed Builds: Perseverance -1807 - by Isaiah - 1:48 - Colonial Brig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share #114 Posted June 29, 2023 Mind you, this build has never been unfun. I just needed a short breather from the insane amount of experimentation. Anyways, back to the show. Today i got the main course mostly completed. I did about the same process as i did on the fore, just over a larger area. I did something interesting on this sail. I purposely kept the yard lower than it should be, in order to give the sail the room to properly billow, as per many paintings of the time. DARIVS ARCHITECTVS, Jeff T, Baker and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share #115 Posted June 30, 2023 @kirill4 YOU'RE BACK!!!! YES!!!! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share #116 Posted June 30, 2023 This is the finished mainyard, after the martnets and bowlines were completed. I actually had to stop belaying lines on the rails just in front of the sterncastle bulkhead, as it just got too inaccessible. I opted instead for the bulkhead rail itself. If only i had an inch tall mini-me to help me out. Got that nice feel of a legitimate contemporary painting. What i genuinely love about this model is that it legitimately shows an action scene, instead of the sails and rigging just sort of hanging there. Personal preference. GrandpaPhil, Jeff T, Isaiah and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share #117 Posted July 1, 2023 Over the last two days, i rigged the lines for the mizzen lateen sail. The reason i rigged the lines now instead of on the ship was the issue of room on the ship. As we go progressively aft and up on the ship, it gets narrower and narrower. This issue of room also boils down to the massive number of shrouds on the main mast. At least i have enough room to belay everything. Jeff T, Baker, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share #118 Posted July 2, 2023 I kind of feel bad continuing the build before @kirill4 checks my work. We'll wait for his approval. Lots has changed since he was last here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirill4 Posted July 3, 2023 Share #119 Posted July 3, 2023 Good day Michael, What I want to say - You did good job and really great progress in your rigging !!! Probably there was sence to use different sizes of the blocks and different sizes of the rigging lines... there are a few good exel tables with automatic calculation of all rigging sizes in free access in internet...and even here, in this forum I think... Wish You all the Best! Kirill Ferrus Manus 1 Quote Current Build: Spanish Galleon, Lee, 1:100 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6262-spanish-galleon-1607-by-kirill4-lee-plastic-1100/& https://karopka.ru/forum/forum190/topic10341/ Dutch 16-17 Arts Sailing Vessels in details https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/rijksstudio/1845326--kirill-shabanov/collections/arts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share #120 Posted July 3, 2023 More Kirill bait here! The mizzen Lateen sail is almost done! All that's left to do is the peak halyard. modeller_masa, DARIVS ARCHITECTVS, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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