USS Constitution by Der Alte Rentner - Model Shipways - 1/76

[mtbediz]

Great work Peter!

[Der Alte Rentner]

Is it just me? Or are the eye bolts that came with my kit a lot smaller than they should be. Compare and contrast to a picture from the Hunt practicum.

 

 

 

Also, because the diecast carronades that came with the kit are in such horrible shape, I purchased some replacements online. (Scroll back a few posts if you don't remember this..)  These do not have the eye bolts attached at the cascabel that appears on the ones in the model shipways kit. Hipexec discussed this in his build somewhere on page 31.  I can't say I like any of the three solutions broached in that discussion. I really don't want to have to file every single one of the model ship ways carronades, (which I didn't bring with me anyway).  But I can't see me attempting to drill holes in the cascabels and inserting eye bolts to facilitate rigging.  Sigh..

 

 

 

Edited February 13 by Der Alte Rentner

[GGibson]

Hey Peter!  My 2 cents... if the bottom picture is from the Hunt practicum, they look way bigger than they need to be.  If I can try to pretend to be Jon Gerson with any type of accuracy on my part, attached are the plans for the carronades that I had downloaded a while back as a part of my prep for my own eventual build and the concerns y'all have expressed regarding the various carronade configurations.  I'll let you do the scale math for the 1:76.8 rate but, if I am reading the plans correctly, the eyebolts are 1-1/4" in diameter in real size.  What does that convert down to in our scale in inches or millimeters?

 

Also, the plans' list of materials states there are twelve (12) of these eyebolts for two cannons, which is six each (if I'm doing that math correctly... 🤔).  I can spot four (4) of them on the Detail "13-A" drawing (Item #13 in the parts list), but not finding the other two.  

 

Anyways, I think you are good with the eyebolts you have, if they even need to be a bit smaller.  The carronades, though, that you have made look great!

 

EDIT:  Just realized (duh) that these plans are for the 'elevator screw' type carronades and not the ones you have made.  Not sure how that changes the measurements on the eyebolts.  Sorry!! 

 

6184310-Carronade.pdf

[JSGerson]

Ha! Trying to steal my thunder Gregg!!??😁Here is the plan for the wedge type carronade. And yes, Mr. Hunt used oversized eyebolts.

 

Jon

[Der Alte Rentner]

Thank you Gregg and Jon,

Sadly, one tool I forgot to bring with me was my Vernier caliper.  Measurements will have to wait.  So, carronades will be a back burner issue until I return to the shipyard.  In the mean time, I will likely go ahead and build the carriages.  Keeping Mustafa's caveat in mind, I've convinced myself that I won't have a problem drilling holes for the eyebolts after the carriages are assembled. I tried hand drilling one today.  That's not going to fly!  I'm pretty sure I can setup the Proxxon mill to handle the holes later.  All I need to do is construct another fixture or two.  (famous last words?)🤔

 

I did bring one of the kit's carronades with me.  Judging from the plans you two provided, I think these are too long.  However, after doing some cleanup and painting it black, I might yet opt to use the MS parts.  The rigging issue will thus be taken care of. 

 

Off to the pool..  Enjoy the winter up North! 

 

 

[Der Alte Rentner]

17 hours ago, GGibson said:

EDIT:  Just realized (duh) that these plans are for the 'elevator screw' type carronades and not the ones you have made.  Not sure how that changes the measurements on the eyebolts.  Sorry!! 

 

Nothing to be sorry about.  I appreciate the effort.

Thanks again

[Der Alte Rentner]

Progress. Slow going, but the assembly line is at least moving.

 

 

 

 

 

[Der Alte Rentner]

Some whittling was required to get the carronades to sit level in the carriages.  The longer guns from the MS kit would not have required this modification, but I think my direction is decided. I'm going to stick with the brass carronades, and stain the carriages the same color as the hull planking. I just couldn't see going with black carronades and red carriages everyone is using on their MS builds.  It's just not in keeping with the character of my vision for mine.

 

 

 

Drat!  The stain I purchased here isn't the same color or consistency as the gel stain I used on the hull.  It was the only thing I could find at the local Ace Hardware, so, next steps will have to wait until I return to the shipyard next week.  Oh well...

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 02:57 PM by Der Alte Rentner
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[mtbediz]

The carronades look very nice, I'm just wondering how you would add the loops that the rope goes through.

Edited Tuesday at 03:03 PM by mtbediz

[Der Alte Rentner]

8 minutes ago, mtbediz said:

The carronades look very nice, I'm just wondering how you would add the loops that the rope goes through.

As I mentioned on my post to your build log, I plan to follow in your footsteps for the long guns on The Spar deck. I did do a quick online search and found this sketch of the rigging that I foresee you, and subsequently me, employing for the long guns.

 

[mtbediz]

Thank you for the sketch Peter, what I did is almost the same combination as in sketch. In the photos below, you can see the long gun I prepared and the long gun on the real ship I used as reference.

 

Edited Wednesday at 03:13 AM by mtbediz