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Ferrus manus.... (that looks like a flesh hand in the photo😀)

Have you looked at the methods used in the books by the masters of the tiny scale, McCaffery, McNarry and Reed?  They cover how to make rigging items such as blocks, what materials to use for lines, and more.   Your scale is larger by comparison, but there may be some great tips for you.

 

Allan

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FM

They do not have logs as far as I know, but rather really fine books.  Examples of where to buy them are below, but you can find more with a quick search.

 

Ships in Miniature by Lloyd McCaffery, Ship Models in Miniature by Donald McNarry, Building a Miniature Navy Board Model by Philip Reed .  Used copies can be found on the net.

https://www.amazon.com/SHIPS-MINIATURE-Classic-Manual-Modelmakers/dp/0851774857

 

https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/ship-models-in-miniature_donald-mcnarry/809946/item/11675885/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pmax_high_vol_frontlist_under_%2410&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=&gclid=CjwKCAjwgsqoBhBNEiwAwe5w05wB-HnnCRai6e9CtxTveUJykqoZNyCqe5-ln8wsDXSZI03IEQOltxoC0xIQAvD_BwE#idiq=11675885&edition=3619299

 

https://www.abebooks.com/9781848320178/Building-Miniature-Navy-Board-Ship-1848320175/plp

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FM, good advice (as usual) from Allan, and another book by Philip Reed is close to your stated needs:

PERIOD SHIP MODELMAKING An Illustrated Masterclass

It's on Ebay, AbeBooks and other places as well.  In iit he walks us through building Prince de Neufchatel in 1/192 scale.

McNarry and his wife were superb modelmakers and won quite a few pots at early Model Engineer Exhibitions in London.

 

HTH,

Bruce

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STAY SAFE

 

A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin

current builds:

HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style

Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild 

French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold

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Hi FM

At the scale you are working, very nice work.  Just curious as your topic is titled fishing boat, but with seven thwarts, it strongly resembles a ship's boat circa 17th-18th centuries.   No matter, very neatly done!

 

Thanks for sharing!

 

Allan

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One of the old time oyster vessels is the skipjack used in the Chesapeake, and their small boats that hung from davits on the stern.  There are several builds here at MSW on these vessels you may find interesting.  The first pic below shows a pair of Morales Bay Company boats, quite different than the Chesapeake skipjacks.  Your model could very well suit, but maybe consider removing some of the thwarts which were meant for multiple rowers.

Allan

 

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I installed the mast step and bowsprit step, and glued in both structures.

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This is intended to be one of those boats that looks like it's just spars, with the actual boat being kind of an afterthought. 

Smack boat hi-res stock photography and images - Alamy

Sort of like this smack, but slightly more extreme. It will have a sloop rig with a jackyard topsail. 

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Even though they are from the 18th century there are great photos of a longboat that may be of some help on the RMG site   https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-66291 

There are also sail plans for various boats of 1869 at RMG https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-87011  and

https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/search/de horsey rig

 

W.E. May gives sizes of running and standing rigging lines as well as mast and boom diameters for various size boats. on pages 98 to 104 in his book The Boats of Men of War 

 

Allan

 

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does anyone know if Rweiderrich does small boats, or does he just do clippers? This boat is intended to be from around the same time period (and place of origin!) of his subjects, 1850s/60s/70s eastern American seaboard. If he has experience with small boats, he would be a valuable resource here. 

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"The Ship" by Bjorn Landstrom just showed up in the mail, and let me tell you, i would've spent a lot more than 20 bucks on it. Incredible book; I'm currently reading the section on carracks. 

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Today, i got the first sail bent. I cut it out by eye, trimmed it down, and then made a stupid mistake. I lashed the sail to the yard and boom, which i painted yesterday, before i remembered to stain the sail. I went for it anyway because why not. I poured myself a cup of coffee, but the coffee wasn't for me. I dipped the sail, spars and all, into the coffee, not knowing if the hot liquid would strip the paint, which would mean a junk sail and a second paint job. 

Luckily, the paint didn't strip. For "jaws" for the gaff and boom, i simply tied a rope around the end of both and tied the ends around the mast. I made "mast hoops" by running a line through the head of the sail and tying it around the mast.

Here is the finished result, minus gluing and trimming the knots.

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Looking good my man. :cheers:

Start so you can Finish !!

Finished:         The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 ,   Amati } Hannah Ship in a Bottle:Santa Maria : LA  Pinta : La Nana : The Mayflower : Viking Ship Drakkar  The King Of the Mississippi  Artesania Latina  1:80 

 

 Current Build: Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston-Vanguard Models :)

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This is the proposed size and shape of the gaff topsail, laid out on the table. Jackyard topsails were the largest variant of gaff topsail, and often rivaled the size of the main gaff itself. Racing yacht riggers used them to legally increase the sail area of their ships via a loophole in racing rules, hence their prevalence on the racing yachts of the early 20th century. 

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Istria 15-m-R Yacht - Robbe & Berking - Yards

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Probably after the Senora Fielden, if i'm not completely burned out by then and never wanting to build a model again, i want to partially scratchbuild a 1/96 Cutty Sark kit into a McKay-style extreme clipper. 

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