Hubac's Historian Posted December 15, 2023 #31 Posted December 15, 2023 Michael, is any of the model glued together at this stage? Bill Morrison and kirill4 2 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
72Nova Posted December 15, 2023 Author #32 Posted December 15, 2023 Not yet Marc, still in dry fit stage but clamped pretty good as I fabricate the pieces though. Michael D. Bill Morrison 1 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
72Nova Posted December 15, 2023 Author #33 Posted December 15, 2023 In case anyone was curious about how this mess will be attached, here's a few pics of the assembled one-piece unit, the glue points will be at the base of the simulated keel/stem, along the leading edge of the deck and the rear bulkhead piece where it mates against the inside of the hull, in theory it should work. Thanks for looking. Michael D. BLACK VIKING, firdajan, Hubac's Historian and 7 others 9 1 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
Hubac's Historian Posted December 15, 2023 #34 Posted December 15, 2023 I was, indeed, wondering that also. Bill Morrison 1 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
72Nova Posted December 17, 2023 Author #35 Posted December 17, 2023 Still in the process of dressing out the bowsprit, starting with the knee and top, as much customizing I've done on ships I've never fabricated a top from scratch, while not totally accurate, I think it looks ok. Michael D. Baker, Ian_Grant, Hubac's Historian and 10 others 10 3 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
Hubac's Historian Posted December 17, 2023 #36 Posted December 17, 2023 Looks pretty perfect to me. 72Nova, kirill4, fmodajr and 2 others 4 1 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
72Nova Posted December 20, 2023 Author #37 Posted December 20, 2023 The exercise the last couple of days has been fabricating the grating for the beakhead, this took a few tries but I'm satisfied with the result, the slats are made with .015"x.020" styrene, I also angled the bowsprit to the centerline and made the cut outs for the gammoning in the trailboard. Michael D. Rudolf, firdajan, fake johnbull and 8 others 10 1 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
72Nova Posted December 21, 2023 Author #38 Posted December 21, 2023 I took small break from the beakhead and roughed in the planking at the stern. I added the gammoning cleats, these measure just over 2mm in length and I'll pare them down a bit in height, the mock up gammoning rope is 0.4mm. Up next, I need to add the additional fore stay and shroud cleats and wooldings. Michael D. GrandpaPhil, kirill4, Baker and 7 others 9 1 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
kirill4 Posted December 22, 2023 #39 Posted December 22, 2023 Good day Michael, It could be interesting - SOS picture in high resolution https://cloud.mail.ru/public/kGs3/UrQcmEwyt Mark P and Bill Morrison 2 Quote Current Build: Spanish Galleon, Lee, 1:100 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6262-spanish-galleon-1607-by-kirill4-lee-plastic-1100/& https://karopka.ru/forum/forum190/topic10341/ Dutch 16-17 Arts Sailing Vessels in details https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/rijksstudio/1845326--kirill-shabanov/collections/arts
72Nova Posted December 22, 2023 Author #40 Posted December 22, 2023 Thank you, Kirill, it will be quite useful, just amazed at the amount of detail in Paynes engraving. I'm working on the bowsprit shroud dead eye placement using .030"x.030" styrene as a rail to mount them on port side only with eye bolts on starboard side. This will no doubt be a tricky phase when the time comes to rig them, and I think scale wise everything is looking good. Michael D. Bill Morrison, Baker, fake johnbull and 7 others 7 3 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
Hubac's Historian Posted December 22, 2023 #41 Posted December 22, 2023 She is a CAPITAL ship, she is. Nice detail with the bowsprit shrouds! Bill Morrison 1 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
72Nova Posted December 22, 2023 Author #42 Posted December 22, 2023 Indeed she is Marc and I'll try my best to produce a worthy representation of her and her rigging will definitely test my skill. I completed the wooldings using 100wt brown ploy thread and 50wt thread to simulate the wooden hoops, they are 1.8mm wide, 12" at scale. Thanks for looking. Michael D. Hubac's Historian, GrandpaPhil, Jeff T and 7 others 8 2 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
rshousha Posted December 22, 2023 #43 Posted December 22, 2023 Nice! 72Nova 1 Quote Rick Shousha Montreal
Ferrus Manus Posted December 22, 2023 #44 Posted December 22, 2023 Oh no WAY! For reference, i have those exact same clips and use them on models, and they are about 3/4 inch in length. Now, compare that to the deadeyes he is using. My question then becomes how do you make deadeyes so small, much less rig them? What sort of magnification do you use? Bill Morrison 1 Quote
Ferrus Manus Posted December 22, 2023 #45 Posted December 22, 2023 How do you procure any of the rigging elements you do in such a miniscule size? Bill Morrison 1 Quote
72Nova Posted December 23, 2023 Author #46 Posted December 23, 2023 Michael I use 1.75 reading glasses and good lighting. I use mostly 1/2 knots which is more than sufficient at this scale and sometimes just glue. Michael D. Bill Morrison, Rudolf and fmodajr 3 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
Ferrus Manus Posted December 23, 2023 #47 Posted December 23, 2023 How did you make the deadeyes? There can't be a pin vise bit that small. Quote
72Nova Posted December 24, 2023 Author #48 Posted December 24, 2023 I use a #80 bit, the smallest available. The dead eyes for the bowsprit top are completed and I simulated the iron futtocks with thread, it looks ok and a mock up of the new overall length for the spritsail topmast. Michael D. fake johnbull, Jeff T, Hubac's Historian and 8 others 11 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
72Nova Posted December 31, 2023 Author #49 Posted December 31, 2023 I finally have the main deck gratings in the arrangement I'm pleased with along with the capstan base, I needed to relocate the main mast forward according to plans in McKay's book, which was also needed as the modified bulkhead mockup would've hit the mast anyways and also needed to check clearance of the gun, it's tight but acceptable. Still much more work lays ahead in this area. Michael D. GrandpaPhil, Baker, Rudolf and 5 others 7 1 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
72Nova Posted December 31, 2023 Author #50 Posted December 31, 2023 Trimmed the height of the bulkhead minus the rail for the belying pins, also a shot of the scalloped extension of the Qtr deck. Thanks for looking. Michael D. firdajan, Ian_Grant, Rudolf and 6 others 6 3 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
72Nova Posted January 1 Author #51 Posted January 1 Working on the upper bulkhead, I sandwiched .011" styrene between the scale decking used for this, the armless crew member measures out to around 5'-8" for scale reference. Michael D. scrubbyj427, GrandpaPhil, fake johnbull and 4 others 6 1 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
72Nova Posted January 2 Author #52 Posted January 2 A few more decorations and some touch up and this bulkhead will be finished and on to the Qtr deck mods. Michael D. Rudolf, Bill Morrison, Jeff T and 7 others 10 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
72Nova Posted January 4 Author #53 Posted January 4 I'm calling this bulkhead complete, while one cannot achieve the same level of crisp detail as that of a larger scale model, I think it looks fine without being too gawdy. As always thanks for taking the time to stop by and take a peek. Michael D. Bill Morrison, fake johnbull, Jeff T and 7 others 9 1 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
Ian_Grant Posted January 4 #54 Posted January 4 Looks great Michael! Following your build, I find ideas popping into my head for 3D printing; that bulkhead for instance, complete with decorations. I'm looking forward to seeing how you handle the deadeyes and chains. I remember looking at my kit and pondering how to use those tiny parts with actual thread shrouds. Best Regards, Ian 72Nova and Bill Morrison 1 1 Quote
72Nova Posted January 4 Author #55 Posted January 4 Thanks Ian, 3D printing is definitely a game changer and something I had thought about recently but for me anyways for now, there's nothing more satisfying then building from scratch with your hands as frustrating as It may be sometimes. Regarding the the deadeyes and chains, on the Vasa I used bluejacket ship crafters 1/8" old style hearts which I felt were a little too out of scale so I'll fabricate those this time around and use the same 28g wire for the chains. Michael D. Rudolf and Bill Morrison 2 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
Hubac's Historian Posted January 4 #56 Posted January 4 That bulkhead looks sharp, Michael! Bill Morrison and 72Nova 1 1 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time.
72Nova Posted January 10 Author #57 Posted January 10 Work continues on the Qtr decks, the upper Qtr deck bulkhead is slowly taking shape along with the hatches with much fine tuning left to do but I'm liking the results thus far. Michael D. Ian_Grant, Hartron, Hubac's Historian and 6 others 7 2 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
72Nova Posted January 12 Author #58 Posted January 12 The detailing on the upper Qtr deck bulkhead is just about compete, I'm particularly pleased with how the windows turned out, I used the smallest tulle I could find for the grid and simply placed over some clear acrylic sheet and applied clear gel tacky glue over it, once dried glued them to the backside of the bulkhead, the armless crew member is there just for scale reference and measures 5'-8" tall at this scale. Michael D. Hubac's Historian, GrandpaPhil, fmodajr and 5 others 8 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
Ian_Grant Posted January 12 #59 Posted January 12 Micheal, it looks great! Touching on a topic that has come up in Soleil Royale logs, are there no access ladders from the main deck to the 1/4 deck? Bill Morrison and Hubac's Historian 2 Quote
72Nova Posted January 13 Author #60 Posted January 13 Thank you Ian, regarding the ladders, all the reference material I've read does not show them, Payne, Van De Velde, McKay etc, the Culver model along with Wolfgang Rotter and others do show either, but some of those also show what appears to be grating or netting covering the main deck which would render ladders useless in that case, I could be wrong though. Besides some touch up the upper Qtr deck bulkhead railing is completed, this was quite fiddly to say the least and turned out ok. Michael D. Baker, Bill Morrison, fake johnbull and 7 others 9 1 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
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