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Cutty Sark by David Chapman - Revell -1/96 - PLASTIC - beginner's build


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You were talking about making sails and looking for a material of approximate scale thickness. I am currently working on sails for my 1:48 schooner and I am using the thinnest #00 silkspan. It is 0.0015 inch (0.0381 mm) thick. Here are some scale thicknesses for comparison.

 

Scale          thickness

               inch         mm

1:1          0.0015     0.0381

1:24       0.036       0.9142

1:48       0.072       0.3048

1:64       0.096      2.4384

1:72       0.108       2.7432

1:96       0.144       3.6576

1:200     0.300      7.6200

1:350     0.525    13.335

 

So silkspan is a reasonable scale material for sails at scales from 1:40 to 1:96. It may be a bit too thin for 1:24, and too thick for 1:200.

 

Another thing you might try is parchment paper (used for cooking). It is only 0.0005 inch (0.0127 mm) thick. The resulting scale thicknesses are 1/3 of what is shown for silkspan. It might work for scales down to 1:200. However, it is fairly stiff and might resist any complex shaping - especially for furled sails.

Phil

 

Current build: USS Cape MSI-2

Current build: Albatros topsail schooner

Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model

 

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Apologies if I'm misunderstanding but isn't that table the wrong way round? I don't think the sail material would get thicker as the scale gets smaller! I don't know what the sailcloth thickness would be at 1:1 but if I assume roughly 1mm, then:

 

Scale mm inch
1:1 1.000 0.0394
1:24 0.042 0.0016
1:48 0.021 0.0008
1:64 0.016 0.0006
1:72 0.014 0.0005
1:96 0.010 0.0004
1:200 0.005 0.0002
1:350 0.003 0.0001
     

Tissue is about 0.05mm so true to scale at 1:24, though it seems to give quite a credible representation at other scales. 

 

Kevin

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/ktl_model_shop

 

Current projects:

HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller / Scratch, kind of active, depending on the alignment of the planets)

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23247-hms-victory-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic-with-3d-printed-additions/

 

Cutty Sark 1:96 (More scratch than Revell, parked for now)

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30964-cutty-sark-by-kevin-the-lubber-revell-196

 

Soleil Royal 1:100 (Heller..... and probably some bashing. The one I'm not supposed to be working on yet)

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36944-le-soleil-royal-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic/

 

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2 hours ago, David Chapman said:

Apologies, had a shoulder replacement on my birthday, yesterday. 

 

Belated happy birthday and get well soon.

 

Micha

"The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." Jacques - Yves Cousteau.

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4 hours ago, David Chapman said:

Apologies, had a shoulder replacement on my birthday, yesterday. 

Ouch, hope you have a really great outcome without too much pain along the way.

Kevin

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/ktl_model_shop

 

Current projects:

HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller / Scratch, kind of active, depending on the alignment of the planets)

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23247-hms-victory-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic-with-3d-printed-additions/

 

Cutty Sark 1:96 (More scratch than Revell, parked for now)

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30964-cutty-sark-by-kevin-the-lubber-revell-196

 

Soleil Royal 1:100 (Heller..... and probably some bashing. The one I'm not supposed to be working on yet)

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36944-le-soleil-royal-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic/

 

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 Happy Birthday, David. Heal quickly. 

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

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Wow, it's been 5 months since I last posted. Between my surgery and a River Cruise from Amsterdam to Budapest.

Besides not having our luggage the entire time, the cruise was a blast.

 

Anyway, never really stopped pecking away at the model. I'm well into the rigging and have just started the sails. Per a suggestion from here, I got some Eze Tissue and a bottle of Eze Dope. This is my first venture beyond "all stock". These products are made to cover the wings of model airplanes.

I started by soaking the Tissue in Dope and then draped and smoothed it over the tacky plastic sails. After a second coat and overnight drying I carefully peeled it off. While the finished product is a bit translucent, I'm quite happy with the result compared to the plastic version. And despite how fragile it appears, it's quite durable. It even transferred the texture of the plastic.

What do you think?

 

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 David, it's good to see you post again, glad you enjoyed the cruise. The sail shapes will look good once trimmed but they're too transparent,IMHO. You need to add color. The link below is to Bruma's Cutty Sark build, his sails are some of the best. 

 

 

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

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David, I think you’re on to something here. I had fleetingly wondered about using the plastic sails as formers but parked my build, largely because I still don’t have a sails solution, before trying it. Anyway, I agree with Keith, they look very promising in the raw but need a bit of paint and weathering.

Kevin

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/ktl_model_shop

 

Current projects:

HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller / Scratch, kind of active, depending on the alignment of the planets)

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23247-hms-victory-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic-with-3d-printed-additions/

 

Cutty Sark 1:96 (More scratch than Revell, parked for now)

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/30964-cutty-sark-by-kevin-the-lubber-revell-196

 

Soleil Royal 1:100 (Heller..... and probably some bashing. The one I'm not supposed to be working on yet)

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36944-le-soleil-royal-by-kevin-the-lubber-heller-1100-plastic/

 

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