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Thanks Veszett. That has been a struggle deciding on what stain colors I want to use. I am trying to avoid paint when possible. There are a few places where it can’t be helped but otherwise I am using various stains. It will be just a couple colors once I move up into the masts and yards. 

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Ok gentlemen here is a curiosity. The Endeavour has the single capstan positioned between the skylight and the companionway.  In Marquardt’s Anatomy of the Ship he addresses it saying “The capstan was not moved during the refit, and the newly-fitted companionway afore it and the skylight aft of it interfered with the easy operation, as the men on the bars had to step aside when the bars passed the obstacles.” It seems as if this would have been very inconvenient and inefficient. Of course I will build my Endeavour accordingly and accurately but it seems very odd the Endeavour would have been refitted this way. 

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Really nice progress, Bill!  I’ve had a lot to catch-up on.  You were correct to paint the rubbing strakes black.  This anchor lining would see plenty of hard use and was likely routinely re-painted.

 

It is hard to tell from pictures, because the apparent sheen varies from one picture to the next, but I think a final coat of spray matte varnish would bring the sheen down in a pleasing way.

 

That capstan makes little practical sense, where it is currently situated.  What did they do on the replica?

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We are all works in progress, all of the time.

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Hi Marc. Hope all has been going well with you. Thanks for your confirmation about the color of the strakes. That was my exact thought about the capstan. As I mentioned I referred to Marquardt’s AOTS and his explanation. I have scrolled through pages of pictures of the replica in Sydney but have not been able to find one showing this section of the deck. 

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Hello Bill

Yes the capstan issue is intriguing. I made my Endeavour with that cover over the quarterdeck stairs, and your comment made me think about it, so realistically it would seriously impede the use of the capstan as you point out. Marquardt's AOTS has a lot of assumptions, many of which are false, unfortunately. For example, If you read H.M. Bark Endeavour by Ray Parkin he refers to a document from 1768 describing some of the works done during Endeavour's refit, it describes the companion (skylight) as having a sash (windows) all round with a grating on top. Nothing like Marquardt's drawings. I believe the ladder hatch, forward of the capstan, probably didn't have that raised cover, but instead just an opening to the stairs that could be covered with a flat cover or grating that could be walked upon when the men were using the capstan.

Just some thoughts.

 

Cheers

Steve

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)

Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL)

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Bill,

 

The AOTS Endeavor book, page 25, has two photos of the model showing the capstan and surrounding area. The drawing on page 54 shows this in profile. In the model and drawing the capstan head is significantly higher than the skylight and companionway. From your photo it looks like the companionway may be a bit too high, or the capstan too low.

 

The profile drawing on page 41 and the capstan drawing on page 70 both show a thick support piece under the capstan. That would raise it a bit. I don't see it your model. I think it was pretty common for capstans to have a thick base that rested directly on the deck beams, with the deck planking fitted around it.

 

While the skylight and companionway are obstacles preventing the men from simply circling the capstan, they could still operate it. Two gangs of men would work the capstan, one on each side. A man could start pushing a pole as it cleared an obstacle and take it about 1/4 way around. Meanwhile, as soon as another pole cleared the obstacle, another man would start pushing it, and so on. When the first fellow reached the second obstacle he would just step back to the end of the line and push another pole. The bars are quite long. It looks like three men on either side would be pushing at any time.

 

The photo on page 29, lower right, shows the framework for the skylight and companionway on the Freemantle replica. The companionway framework looks temporary, perhaps just for safety to prevent workers from falling down the hatch.

 

Seems to me the most awkward part of the capstan's position would be routing lines to it. Everything would have to come through runner blocks outboard of the capstan.

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Thanks Phil. So if that is the case with a support under the capstan, OcCre is not completely accurate in the model design. I can fix that. The skylight, companion way, and capstan are made from laser cut pieces from the kit so their height is predetermined. The second picture above in my comment is actually from the instructions, not my model (not my fingers 😊) .  As you said that will raise it to a logical level. Thanks. 

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Ok so I started looking at the decorations that go on the sides of the stern. Not sure if I maybe did not curve the wale up high enough. The wreath decoration seems way too short to cover the area needed. I decided to making a resin cast if the wreath to make it longer. I then painted both the casts and the sculptures gold and guided them with gold leaf. Once dry I will attach to the stern. 

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Thanks Marc. Going to attach these pieces then tackle the capstan issue. After reading Phil’s comment I see there are corrections needed in the model design. In keeping with the AOTS photos I plan to (hopefully with no damage) pry loose the companionway and the capstan. I want to cutdown the height of the companionway to match the skylight height, and place a round spacer under the capstan to raise it above the height of the other two pieces. The model does not call for poles to be added to the capstan. Would they have been just inserted when needed? Where close to the capstan would the poles be stored when not in use?  I may add that detail. 

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Thank you so much Ronald-V. Appreciated you looking in and your compliments. 
Whenever I see a comment from someone new to my post I find it fun to check the profile to see how far MSW reaches around the world 😊!  How are things in the Netherlands?  Been to several of the cities west if you (Amsterdam, Rotterdam, etc) but never Joure. No doubt it is as beautiful as the rest of the country. 

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6 hours ago, Bill97 said:

Thank you so much Ronald-V. Appreciated you looking in and your compliments. 
Whenever I see a comment from someone new to my post I find it fun to check the profile to see how far MSW reaches around the world 😊!  How are things in the Netherlands?  Been to several of the cities west if you (Amsterdam, Rotterdam, etc) but never Joure. No doubt it is as beautiful as the rest of the country. 

Yes it's quite special we are in contact with so many around the world. I can imagine you've never been in Joure....it's a small village of 13.000 people in the North, not really a tourist attraction, but nice to live in. It's good here in the Netherlands, thanks for asking! :) 

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