Grateful409 Posted October 28 #1 Posted October 28 (edited) Hello I am a new member and am happy to have found this group. I am building The Model Shipways Dory and am confused a bit on the beveling of the planks. I know it is a very basic beginner kit but I wanted to learn as I go and move on to more involved kit. Has anyone built the kit who would be willing to help me? Thank you in advance. Edited October 28 by Grateful409 Misspelling Keith Black, ccoyle, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted October 28 #2 Posted October 28 Welcome! I have not built the dory, but the beveling is called spiling and is to allow the planks to fit together flush. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
palmerit Posted October 28 #3 Posted October 28 If you create a build log (with not only the name of the model but "First Build" in the name, people may see it and give help there (lots of folks here keep an eye our for First Build logs and will answer questions). Also, others currently building that boat, or recently built it, may see it, especially if you add tags to your build log (e.g., on my Dory build log, if you click on the "Lowell Grand Banks Dory" tag, you'll find other build logs that use that same tag). When I've had problems, I've posted photos and sometimes posted photos from the instructions if there is something I don't understand (a term, a part of the instructions, how to fix a mistake). For a build like the Dory, it could be another new person who will tell you what they discovered or what they did, or it could be someone who has more expertise chiming in. I'm not sure where you are in the build, but a bevel is usually just a 45 degree angle sanded along the edge of a piece of wood (say by using a sanding stick). Sometimes the bevels are merely aesthetic. Sometimes they're to make sure different pieces of wood meet up properly. If you haven't already, I definitely suggest reading over a bunch of build logs on the model Dory you're working on. Even the best instructions are not always clear (I've struggled at places with all three models I've started, with the Dory completed, and the Sherbourne and Half Hull in progress) - and while some build logs are pretty spartan, some are more pedagogical, and some pose questions and you can see answers and solutions to problems. I post a bunch on mine because I like to have it as a repository for my progress, because I often have questions, and because (being an educator) I like walking people through my (non-expert) thought process and the solutions I've tried, some which work, some which don't. Knocklouder, mtaylor, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote Current Builds: Sherbourne 1763 (Vanguard Models), Norwegian Pram (Model Shipways), Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack (Model Shipways) In the Queue: Ranger 1864 (Vanguard Models), Endeavour (Occre), Duchess of Kingston (Vanguard Models) Completed Builds: Lowell Grand Banks Dory (Model Shipways), 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit (NRG)
Baker Posted October 28 #4 Posted October 28 And indeed, starting a build log is the best way to get help. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
Ronald-V Posted October 28 #5 Posted October 28 (edited) Welcome! And l echo the others...start a build log, it really helps to track your progress and get help from forum member who are building also the Dory. Even the designer of the Dory kit is a member here Edited October 28 by Ronald-V Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Currently working on the HMS Sphinx from Vanguard Models
Keith Black Posted October 28 #6 Posted October 28 Welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard. mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
Grateful409 Posted October 28 Author #7 Posted October 28 Thank you all who have responded. I now realize starting a build log is the way to go and will do so today. Thank you especially to Keith Black. I see you live in Grass Lake and I absolutely love the trolley museum in town. Your Steam Donkey pile driver is very intriguing as well. Ryland Craze, mtaylor and Keith Black 2 1 Quote
Keith Black Posted October 29 #8 Posted October 29 2 hours ago, Grateful409 said: I see you live in Grass Lake and I absolutely love the trolley museum in town. Your Steam Donkey pile driver is very intriguing as well. You must live in Michigan, where bouts? The pile driver is unique. mtaylor and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
Grateful409 Posted October 29 Author #9 Posted October 29 Ferndale. mtaylor and Keith Black 1 1 Quote
mtaylor Posted October 29 #10 Posted October 29 At the top of the home page is a link for "MORE". Down a bit on the menu is "Planking Tutorials" and has methods for planking including spiling. Here's a link to that section for planking: https://modelshipworld.com/forum/98-planking-downloads-and-tutorials-and-videos/ Keith Black 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Keith Black Posted October 30 #11 Posted October 30 5 hours ago, Grateful409 said: Ferndale. You're not that far away. We'll have to get together sometime. mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
Grateful409 Posted October 30 Author #12 Posted October 30 I would like that very much. I am new to the forum is there a way to private message members so we could chat without tying up each others post? Ryland Craze, mtaylor and Keith Black 3 Quote
Louie da fly Posted October 30 #13 Posted October 30 Yep. Look at the top right of the page - you'll see a pair of speech bubbles joined together. That's how you start a PM. Type in the addressee's screen name and away you go. Steven Ryland Craze, mtaylor and Keith Black 2 1 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
Grateful409 Posted October 30 Author #14 Posted October 30 Thank you so much. I am so impressed with all the help I have received on this forum I am joining the NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD. Keith Black, mtaylor and Ryland Craze 3 Quote
Keith Black Posted October 30 #15 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, Grateful409 said: I have received on this forum I am joining the NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD That's great news, thank you. Supporting the NRG by becoming a member helps keep our beloved MSW afloat. Ryland Craze, mtaylor and cotrecerf 3 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
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