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Has anyone found something comparable/identical to caldercrafts red ochre? I can’t find any of it in the states and Cornwall is out of stock. Would be nice to find a perfect substitute. Thank you in advance for any leads.

 

JJ

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Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate

 

                         HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship

 

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Krick  Modellbau in Germany has some stock of this color. I recently ordered from here, and the service is excellent. I just don't know what the shipping prices are to the US compared to CMB. But it might be something for you.

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                                                                  Currently working on the HMS Sphinx from Vanguard Models

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22 hours ago, catopower said:

Hi JJ, Ages of Sail has it, but only as part of the Caldercraft paint sets.

Hi Clare, thanks for the info, surprised they don’t sell them individually. Unfortunately I need a lot of it and not much of the others. 

Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate

 

                         HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship

 

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How close are the Winsor & Newton red ochre variations? 

Gregg

 

Current Projects:                                                             Completed Projects:                                                                 Waiting for Shipyard Clearance:

USS Constitution 1:76.8 - Model Shipways                    Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways                    Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways

                                                                                              Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways       RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (May now never get to it)

                                                                                              H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft

                                                                                              Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways

                                                                                              Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin

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I really like W&N red ochre.  It may or may not be available from MICHEAL'S or HOBBY LOBBY.  It definitely IS available at DICK BLICK'S, if you have one near you.  If not, you can order online.  A tube will last you forever.

 

I normally stain, but when I paint I use watered down artist acrylics.

Chuck Seiler
San Diego Ship Modelers Guild
Nautical Research Guild

 
Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, Pinas Cross Section
Completed:  Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch), John Smith Shallop

Posted

Hi guys,
I've had a bottle of Caldercraft red ochre at home for about six years.
I'm not sure if it was made with a different recipe back then or if my batch is spoiled.
Mine is more more  brown and not at all like the red ochre that some of you use on this forum.
That's why I didn't use it when building Winchelsea.
I tried different shades of Vallejo model paints, but I didn't like any of them.
Ultimately, I also bought the Vallejo Cadmium Red Deep artist acrylic paint in a tube.
I liked the color, but the consistency was a downside for me.
It was too thick to use straight from the tube. Once thinned, it lost its opacity, and many coats were needed.
So Now that I'm building Portland, I'm looking for a darker red again.
I guess I'll stick with artist paints, but I want a more fluid consistency.
I'm impressed with the Golden Fluid Acrylics for hand painting
that Mark used for his Bellona

I like this Golden https://goldenartistcolors.com/products/fluid-acrylic-color-red-oxide
and possibly this one from Vallejo https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/product/fine-arts/fluid-acrylic-en/mars-red-68306/

 I would like to buy them and try them out.

What do you think of them?

Dusan

 

Currently building:

HMS Portland 1770 by westwood - 1:48

HMS Winchelsea 1764 by westwood - 1:48

Revenge 1577 - by westwood - 1:64

In preparation:

Fourth-rate ship 1681 - 1:48

Posted

    I have never used Vallejo.  As mentioned above, I like Windsor and Newton.  It mixes well with water and I can vary the consistency.  Because I paint small areas, I have come to like the "carriage process" outlined by Chuck Passaro in one of his builds.  Winchelsea, I believe.  I am told it is so named because that is how they painted fine carriages in days of old.  The paint is thinned to sightly thicker than water.  The paint is applied and allowed to dry, then buffed between coats. I have found the first 2 coats go on without buffing in between.  At first it is very transparent/translucent, but it gets better.  Six to eight coats.  Its marvelous!!!

 

    I have been searching for 'the perfect red' for years.  I sometimes will see a great 'barn red' barn while driving.  I will stop and take a pic.  Cadmium Red Deep and Red Ochre (or sometimes a mix of the two) are what I have settled on.

Chuck Seiler
San Diego Ship Modelers Guild
Nautical Research Guild

 
Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, Pinas Cross Section
Completed:  Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch), John Smith Shallop

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