S.Coleman Posted February 11, 2014 #31 Posted February 11, 2014 Interesting little build you have going on. I don't like that kit supplied rope either. I think I'll change it as well. Good job, looks neat. flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Regards, Scott Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli Completed builds: 1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli - 1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli - 1:54 Adventure, Amati - 1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL 1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli - 1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel - 1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal Awaiting construction: 1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL - 1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard
S.Coleman Posted February 11, 2014 #32 Posted February 11, 2014 I bet the tea would do a nice job, just about as realistic as you can get. It dosnt stain even and goes patchy slightly which I think is realistic. flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Regards, Scott Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli Completed builds: 1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli - 1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli - 1:54 Adventure, Amati - 1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL 1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli - 1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel - 1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal Awaiting construction: 1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL - 1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard
flying_dutchman2 Posted February 11, 2014 Author #33 Posted February 11, 2014 I bet the tea would do a nice job, just about as realistic as you can get. It dosnt stain even and goes patchy slightly which I think is realistic. I used the darkest blackest tea leaves I had. Brewed a very strong cup and dunked the sails in it for about 10 minutes, swirled it around and rinsed under cold water and washed with soap to neutralize the reactions. Tea is full of tannins. The rope is a joke. I used the .80mm only for the anchors and all the rest of the rope came from the Syren M.C from C. Passaro. This kit is heavily bashed. Lots of items and where they are placed are not correct. I used some of my Dutch language books of flat bottom boats to compare and the book on the Statenjacht Utrecht. Then there are numerous paintings on the NET from Willem van de Velde and the Elder and they have detailed paintings from VOC ships with Staten and Royal yachts. Marc Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
dgbot Posted February 11, 2014 #34 Posted February 11, 2014 You took a C grade kit and turned it into an A grade model. Congrats on a great job. David B flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
flying_dutchman2 Posted February 20, 2014 Author #35 Posted February 20, 2014 Started on the shrouds, I use hemostats the pinch the ropes together around the dead eyes so I can serve them. Once all the dead eyes are in place, I connect them and use small clamps (weight) to keep the rope taught. Then I adjust the rigging so shrouds are not too slack, the mast is as straight as possible and the dead eyes are even. Once it looks good, I will complete the shrouds. I use little levels to keep the boat straight. Of course the work table has to be straight as well. Completed sails with bolt rope, clew lines, blocks, roping, spars and a gaff. mtaylor, Piet, hexnut and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
dgbot Posted February 20, 2014 #36 Posted February 20, 2014 Nice one Marc, you are wise in using Urecht. I never trusted Mamloli's plans.. To bad I cannot see it up close. David B flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
flying_dutchman2 Posted February 22, 2014 Author #37 Posted February 22, 2014 Just finished the rigging, turned around and my sleeve from my elbow caught on the flag staff on the jib.... sheered it right off. Then turn around and do it again and this time I break the top of the mast................... AAAAAARRRRGGGHHH :angry: Calmed down, repaired the jib and looks like new. The mast is a different story. I did fix it but that took me an hour or so. I have to be careful. But then it is wood and can get fixed all the time. So I finished all the sails and on the drawing of where the sails are printed on they are an exact match. Stitch the main sail to the gaff and see if the gaff fits....... not at all. I look at the sail plan with rigging drawing and the sails are a different dimension. Compare both sheets of plans.... and boy... it is completely different. Non of them are the same. Main sail is off by 2cm in length. What did the drawing man do? Is he on meth? So now I have to improvise. Like I said before, MAMOLI's plans suck big time. Nothing on CAD, it is all hand drawn. Descriptions are a joke. So far this kit has been bashed for about 75% and it increases all the time. The rigging, and sail plan look very much like the Utrecht. This is Ok as this did not changed much with a century. The Mary is from the mid 1600 and the Utrecht from the mid 1700. I feel all better having discussed my booboo's and frustrations. Thanks for reading. Marc Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Mirabell61 Posted February 22, 2014 #38 Posted February 22, 2014 Marc very nicely built yacht, Looks great, would love to see the sails rigged Well done ! Nils flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
dgbot Posted February 22, 2014 #39 Posted February 22, 2014 I am glad you were able to fix the booboos. The last time I snapped a spar it took me a week to repair the damage. David B flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
flying_dutchman2 Posted February 23, 2014 Author #40 Posted February 23, 2014 Marc very nicely built yacht, Looks great, would love to see the sails rigged Well done ! Nils That will happen as I always add sails. If there are no sails the boat looks rather naked. Marc I am glad you were able to fix the booboos. The last time I snapped a spar it took me a week to repair the damage. David B Mine just broke off. I put a sheave in the top of the mast to make it look real (like Doc did with his long boat in the club). There was too much wood eliminated so the strength was gone. Where the sheave was I put a combo of wood putty and CA. Molded it quickly and then wrapped rope. Same idea that I did with the main mast to the flag staff. Drilled a hole in the mast for the topsail. No sheave. I'll take pictures. Marc mtaylor 1 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted March 1, 2014 Author #41 Posted March 1, 2014 As I mentioned before, I broke the top of the mast because there wasn't enough wood as I had built a sheave in it.The repaired mast. Got rid of the sheave, molded wood putty in the hole and wrapped it with roping. This roping is all along the mast so it doesn't look that awkward.I read a long time ago that you can use clear nail polish on the ratlines and I have used it on every ship I've built that had ratlines. The clove hitch doesn't come apart and it is virtually invisible to the eye.The rigged heart block.Standing rigging is complete.I finished the topsail with the clew lines and the lines (that I don't have a name for). They are tied as half moon shapes on each side of the top sail.The directions only show one side on how it integrates with the rigging. I went to the Frisian maritime museum http://www.friesscheepvaartmuseum.nl/ and looked at there ship models as well as there paintings. Also I came upon a model where it clearly shows how it is rigged. "This model is ALL mine". Salty Sea Dog, hexnut, tarbrush and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
dgbot Posted March 1, 2014 #42 Posted March 1, 2014 Looking good Marc, How are you going to prevent a repeat? That area looks very fragile. David B flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
flying_dutchman2 Posted March 1, 2014 Author #43 Posted March 1, 2014 Looking good Marc, How are you going to prevent a repeat? That area looks very fragile. David B Thanks, Dave. I am trying to be very careful. So if I need something on my table and it is behind the boat, I need to STOP, Think, Look around, move ship, get item, bring ship forward and work on it. Marc dgbot and Salty Sea Dog 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted March 5, 2014 Author #44 Posted March 5, 2014 I am working on the running rigging and attaching the sails to the roping and masts. Adding more rope where needed as I go. Just a close-up from the standing & running rigging. I use toothpicks to keep the ropes taught and this is temporary. I tighten here and there so it is just a matter of removing the toothpick, pull the rope a bit and put the toothpick back. I will do this until everything is taught, even and looks good. Then the roping will become permanent. For dgbot - First picture, lower right corner - I broke off the flagstaff. I'll just wait till I finish the rigging and start on the flags. Marc Salty Sea Dog, tarbrush, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Salty Sea Dog Posted March 5, 2014 #45 Posted March 5, 2014 That is looking really cool! Great work Marc! flying_dutchman2 1 Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there...
dgbot Posted March 5, 2014 #46 Posted March 5, 2014 Looking good Marc. I wish I could be at the club so I could take some close ups. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
flying_dutchman2 Posted March 16, 2014 Author #47 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) After seeing "egkb" serving jig, I decided to make one as well. For this idea to materialize I give ALL the credit to him. All items except the LEGO gears I already had in my collection or scavenged from other items and all pictures give measurements and descriptions. Purchased 2 sets of LEGO gears from eBay. I did 2 sets in case I made mistakes with enlarging the hole for pulling the rods through (and I did make mistakes). I used 4 - 40 tooth gears for connecting the rod and tubing together and 2 - 16 tooth gears to act as nuts on the brass tubing. The brass tubing is from my R/C pile and the metal rod is from an old cloth hanger. Basswood is used for this jig. Attached LEGO gears. Top gear has a brass tube for serving rope and the bottom gear holds the metal rod. Same setup on the opposite side of the jig. I cut up 2 - 1/2" brass tubing to act as a sleeve for the metal rod. This was hammered into the 2 holes where the rod goes through for a tight fit. The metal rod turns smoothly. For serving roping can be pulled through the brass tubing. This is essential if the rope is longer than 12" inches. Optional alligator clip attached to a rod which fits into the brass sleeve for serving blocks, etc. Picture says it all. Edited March 16, 2014 by flying_dutchman2 tkay11, Gregor, egkb and 4 others 7 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted March 16, 2014 Author #48 Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) Can't seem to delete my double post. To moderator: Please delete my double post. Thank you, Marc Edited March 16, 2014 by flying_dutchman2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
hexnut Posted March 16, 2014 #49 Posted March 16, 2014 Looks great! Gotta love those Technics gears. I use them once in a while for breadboards at work-- What costs $200 @ Stock Drive Products costs $40 @ the toy store. flying_dutchman2 and Piet 2 Quote Regards, Bob Marvin Muscongus bay Lobster Smack -Midwest- 1:24- (1st wooden build) Gertrude L. Thebaud Mini-Mamoli 1/200 kitbash
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 5, 2014 Author #50 Posted April 5, 2014 Here is the almost finished Mary. I am still working on the flags and the display case. More details. I always add coiled rope to ships. The cat just wants to be where to rigging is present. mtaylor, *Hans*, tarbrush and 6 others 9 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 5, 2014 Author #51 Posted April 5, 2014 This time I decided to omit the flags that come with the kits because, a. - they are one sided print and b. - they never fall correctly. I am doing it from a handout from Gus Augustin - Equipment needed to make flags. You make them from paper, fold them, wet them to take memory out, paint them with acrylic, fold them and you have a flag. I make more than one so I can chose the best one and as the brochure says, it is cheap as you use paper and you get better at making them over time. The brochure Drawing the flags. Using a light table jig to draw the other side of the flag. Folding the flags Soaking them in water. Folding the flags after the water and drying. Ready to paint. Finished flag. Piet, tarbrush and Laurence_B 3 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
dgbot Posted April 5, 2014 #52 Posted April 5, 2014 Nice flags Marc. I think you have got the hang of it. David B flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
dgbot Posted April 5, 2014 #53 Posted April 5, 2014 Marc what kind of paper did you decide on? David B flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 5, 2014 Author #54 Posted April 5, 2014 Nice flags Marc. I think you have got the hang of it. David B Thanks. It is difficult to get straight lines but then if I fold them correctly you may not see that. Kurt mentioned that if I keep practicing they will get better over time. That is why I made several this time. Some people air brush the flags, I can't figure out how they do that. Speaking of airbrushing, Kurt gave a workshop on that. Are you getting the pdf's on that? What ever you need, let me know. Marc Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
NMBROOK Posted April 5, 2014 #55 Posted April 5, 2014 A great build and a truly lovely model Marc I don't know how comfortable I would feel though with one of my cats in close proximity to one of my models Kind Regards Nigel flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline
greatgalleons Posted April 6, 2014 #56 Posted April 6, 2014 Nice little serving machine, will take notes on building one from your pics, my gears will arrive soon in the mail, can't wait to build one. flying_dutchman2 1 Quote
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 6, 2014 Author #57 Posted April 6, 2014 Marc what kind of paper did you decide on? David B Plain white printing paper. Marc Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 6, 2014 Author #58 Posted April 6, 2014 Nice little serving machine, will take notes on building one from your pics, my gears will arrive soon in the mail, can't wait to build one. It works and if you have any questions, feel free to ask. Marc Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 6, 2014 Author #59 Posted April 6, 2014 A great build and a truly lovely model Marc I don't know how comfortable I would feel though with one of my cats in close proximity to one of my models Kind Regards Nigel Thank you Nigel. I enjoyed building the model. The Mary is a practice yacht towards my next build, the Staten Jacht - Utrecht. My 1st scratch. The cat (Boomer, 21 lbs, and thinks he is a small dog). Wants to be everywhere I am and in the hobby room he has a basket right next to the wood. When these pictures were taken he has to be there, and will always stare at me, because he knows that if he paws the rigging and I notice it, his ears go back, jumps on the floor and hides. Marc Piet and NMBROOK 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
*Hans* Posted April 6, 2014 #60 Posted April 6, 2014 Marc, This yacht you build is very nice! I like this type of ship particularly because it was the first wooden model I made (being eleven years old). My parents were a bit doubful at that time, and I broke a lot of saws on it - but I did it. And the model still excists (though it neads some repair now - ca. 40 years later).. flying_dutchman2 1 Quote Hans Owner of Kolderstok Models - 17th century Dutch ships. Please visit www.kolderstok.com for an overview of the model kits available
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