piratepete007 Posted January 18, 2015 #1 Posted January 18, 2015 Now I might be a little lacking in knowledge in some areas of ship building so I am asking what appears to be a simple question based on the following diagram (poor quality, I know) taken from some ship plans. Viewing the image, forward in the ship is to the right. With the wheel in this position, it seems to me that the helmsman would have to have his back to the bow (?) or was it not uncommon to stand aft of the wheel on one side ? My logic is confusing me so can some sane person explain what is probably a simple answer ? Thanks. Pete
BANYAN Posted January 18, 2015 #2 Posted January 18, 2015 Pete, the helmsman (men in rough weather) stood to the side of the wheel not behind it. Hope this clarifies? cheers Pat If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
Tadeusz43 Posted January 18, 2015 #3 Posted January 18, 2015 Hi Pete, It looked like that. Tadeusz JesseLee, Brian the extraordinaire, dvm27 and 3 others 6
mgdawson Posted January 18, 2015 #4 Posted January 18, 2015 Hi Pete Typically the helmsman is watching the luffs of the sails, particularly when beating so I imagine he would stand to the weather side of the wheel to give himself the best view possible, similar to the helmsman on a yacht today is most often seen on the weather side of the helm where they can watch the luff of the genoa. Occasionally you'll see a yachts helmsman to leeward but if you look carefully they're looking under the mainsail to see the luff of the genoa. Mark D uss frolick 1 Mark D
piratepete007 Posted January 18, 2015 Author #5 Posted January 18, 2015 Thanks so much ... so obvious when you hear the real facts and the reasons behind them. Pete
allanyed Posted January 18, 2015 #6 Posted January 18, 2015 The above answers your question but I must comment on the drawing you posted. You are right, the quality is a bit off. How can the ends of the line wrapped around the drum both drop from the same side of the drum? Reminds me of some far out designs in Mad Magazine back in the day like the 2/3 tined fork in the attached picture. Allan IgorSky, mtaylor, qwerty2008 and 1 other 4
jud Posted January 18, 2015 #7 Posted January 18, 2015 Like was noted, 'poor quality sketch'. What I find intreaging is how the tiller was rigged in Tadeusz's photos. Rudder post forward with the tiller leading aft. The long hub with the drums aft was another unusual method of rigging. Rigging the stearing gear that way would save deck space when the rudder post daylights on the main deck where this one does. jud druxey 1
druxey Posted January 19, 2015 #8 Posted January 19, 2015 Allan: That is a tuning fork in 2 / 3 time; definitely not common time! CaptainSteve and mtaylor 2 Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
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