Thunder Posted February 14, 2015 #31 Posted February 14, 2015 Bryan, the stern looking better now. Did the name plate come with the kit, I have this kit to build, can't remember seeing that in the box. bryanc 1 Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
bryanc Posted February 14, 2015 Author #32 Posted February 14, 2015 Bryan, the stern looking better now. Did the name plate come with the kit, I have this kit to build, can't remember seeing that in the box. Hi, Yes if your kit is No. 1300/01 - its the revised edition. (The main difference is you have two sets of conflicting instructions!). The name plate is a piece of pressed brass(?) in a small plastic envelope with the few other brass pieces (including the notoriously flimsy deadeye fittings). The nameplate is intended to be painted yellow on black, but being brass, I painted the whole lot matt black then when dry, with a fine needle file, I filed off the relief which picks out the raised name and scroll work beautifully. Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
Thunder Posted February 14, 2015 #33 Posted February 14, 2015 Bryan, mine has t hat reference number but is different from yours and no name plate. Deck furniture is different also. Adrian. Quote Current Build(s): H.M.S Diana 1794 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale Completed Builds: H.M.S. Cruiser 1797 - Caldercraft 1:64 Scale H.M. Naval Cutter Speedy 1828 - Model Shipwright 1:48 Royal Caroline 1749 - Panart 1:47 H.M. Brig Supply 1759 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Pickle 1778 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.Y. Chatham 1741 - Caldercraft 1:64 H.M.S. Resolution Cutter - Corel 1:50 H.M.S. Racehorse - Sergal 1:47 (Renamed H.M.S. Thunder 1740) first wooden kit build.
bryanc Posted February 15, 2015 Author #34 Posted February 15, 2015 Bryan, mine has t hat reference number but is different from yours and no name plate. Deck furniture is different also. Adrian. Adrian, maybe the Kit No. is the same. Although probably not as I've just had a look on the box. Not only does it say "New Edition Kit" in several places, there is also an actual photograph on the side clearly showing the nameplate. It looks like yours maybe the original edition if it hasn't got that. I can't imagine the deck furniture has changed much, remember I've been a tad "creative" with mine. Bryan Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
bryanc Posted February 26, 2015 Author #35 Posted February 26, 2015 Moving on... A bit of general tidying up to be done, but otherwise about ready to move up from the deck. Masts and spars all sized, but how does one effectively taper said spars without access to a mini lathe!? Is it all patiently sandpapered? The instructions are woefully inadequate about the tapering itself - length thereof and stuff. Bryan cristikc 1 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
bryanc Posted February 26, 2015 Author #36 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Should have done a more effective search, as there is a bit of stuff already written about tapering of yards and spars :-) I must just add I was a little unfair to Victory Models, the dimensions of the masts, spars etc were on the drawings, and they were shown more or less full size which was helpful, but there are no instructions at all what to do with them. However, as mentioned elsewhere, I've come up with my own typically rough and ready method of tapering them; I clamped my cordless Dremel 7700 securely in a vice with a sander drum in the chuck and, at low speed, wearing safety specs, moved and rotated the spars etc delicately across the drum. Its probably not a very health & safety accredited method and great care has to be taken, but its done a fair job. Medium then fine sandpaper completed the task, and with the possible exception of the bowsprit, painted or stained they don't look too awful. Now to read up on fitting them! Bryan Edited February 28, 2015 by bryanc AntonyUK 1 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
bryanc Posted March 4, 2015 Author #37 Posted March 4, 2015 The end is in sight It was a strange moment when the mast went up, it was suddenly a ship, and it was quite a defining moment! Obviously some big strides have now taken place and the end is in sight, although still a lot to do. Working with the blocks and lines is so fiddly, but strangely satisfying, and although I’ve taken short-cuts purists will shudder at, it’s been good fun and I’m enjoying it. And I even dare to say it looks OK – from a distance! It is after all my first ship and I’m aware there are mistakes and in some cases shoddy workmanship, but its all a big and enjoyable learning experience, and I’m already relishing my next ship. Note the careful posing; in front of my limited edition Smitheman print “HMS Victory Leading the Line at Trafalgar”! Bryan GuntherMT, tkay11, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
AntonyUK Posted March 5, 2015 #38 Posted March 5, 2015 Hi Bryan. It's a great way to learn.. By our mistakes that is.. Trial and error learning is the best way. Your ship is looking very good. I always think that we build to our own standards and that just fine. It's your ship Regards Antony. Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
Ray Posted March 5, 2015 #39 Posted March 5, 2015 Hi Bryan All our builds are learning curves and if they are not fun we would not build our second or third model. Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus
bryanc Posted March 6, 2015 Author #40 Posted March 6, 2015 Thanks guys, its good of you and encouraging when ones feeling maybe a tad discouraged - like I was yesterday struggling with the mainstay! Grrr! But in no way totally discouraged, as I am already relishing my second ship; it was always intended to be a large scale Victory, but I think I will hone my skills a little further first, hmmm, now which ship... Thanks, Bryan Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
bryanc Posted March 12, 2015 Author #41 Posted March 12, 2015 Finished! A little bit of tidying up and I'll post the pics, but; As in the nature of these things I am already casting about for my next project. It was going to be the HM Bomb Vessel Granado (probably the Victory Model version which is a lot cheaper than the Caldercraft, but opinions on that would be welcome), but I've come across the Caldercraft HM William Gunboat. Its a bit of an odd one, which in itself is intreguing, but its also 1:32 which has really got my attention. Has anyone any experience of this kit, or even built it? A search on site has come up with nothing! Any comments welcome, thanks. Bryan Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
bryanc Posted March 16, 2015 Author #42 Posted March 16, 2015 The Lady Nelson completed Photos attached as promised of my first completed ship; The Lady Nelson. A hugely enjoyable experience, she is far from perfect, but I take great pleasure in her. But, onwards and upwards, and I am currently awaiting delivery of my next project - Caldercraft HM Gunboat William 1795 1:32 scale model kit. Thanks, Bryan tkay11, GrandpaPhil and Canute 3 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
tkay11 Posted March 17, 2015 #43 Posted March 17, 2015 Congratulations! Very nicely done! Must be a very satisfying feeling. Tony bryanc 1 Quote === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
bryanc Posted March 17, 2015 Author #44 Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Congratulations! Very nicely done! Must be a very satisfying feeling. Tony Thanks Tony! Yes it is, a very satisfying feeling. The trouble is I now need quite desperately to continue to build, and my chosen next kit seems to be out of stock everywhere, so I'm frantically seeking a suitable next build that I can afford, and someone has in stock for immediate delivery! Bryan Edited March 17, 2015 by bryanc Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
tkay11 Posted March 17, 2015 #45 Posted March 17, 2015 How about entering the world of scratch building? I've thought that it would be good to try one of the cross-sections on this forum, such as the Triton or Echo. It would probably be vastly more satisfying than a kit, especially since the materials are under your own control. When you think about it, the only real advantage to kits is that you have the bulkheads laser-cut. For a scratch build you just have to print out the sections, stick them to wood and then cut them out yourself with a jeweller's saw or fretsaw. Tony bryanc 1 Quote === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
bryanc Posted March 17, 2015 Author #46 Posted March 17, 2015 How about entering the world of scratch building? I've thought that it would be good to try one of the cross-sections on this forum, such as the Triton or Echo. It would probably be vastly more satisfying than a kit, especially since the materials are under your own control. When you think about it, the only real advantage to kits is that you have the bulkheads laser-cut. For a scratch build you just have to print out the sections, stick them to wood and then cut them out yourself with a jeweller's saw or fretsaw. Tony Well I certainly share your admiration for cross-sections and the great detail they provide, and have given the likes of the Panart Victory Bow Section much consideration, but scratch building?! I think you asume I have far more skill than I in fact do. No, I need far more basic hands on experience before I attempt the lofty heights of scratch building, so I'm still searching for the next kit... Bryan Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
tkay11 Posted March 17, 2015 #47 Posted March 17, 2015 Or lofting heights? I was very impressed by Harold Underhill's frequent assertions that building from plans is within most people's competence. Perhaps it just takes a bit longer and maybe we'd make more mistakes to learn from. Anyway, just a thought. There are quite a few experts on this forum who prefer kit-bashing, and that seems just as demanding. I look forward to your next build whatever it is. Tony bryanc 1 Quote === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
bryanc Posted March 17, 2015 Author #48 Posted March 17, 2015 Or lofting heights? I was very impressed by Harold Underhill's frequent assertions that building from plans is within most people's competence. Perhaps it just takes a bit longer and maybe we'd make more mistakes to learn from. Anyway, just a thought. There are quite a few experts on this forum who prefer kit-bashing, and that seems just as demanding. I look forward to your next build whatever it is. Tony Oh if things continue as I anticipate scratch building may be on the cards one day. For now though my next build, for a variety of reasons, will be the Caldercraft HM Brig "Supply", just ordered - from Model Dockyard this time. Bryan tkay11 1 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
GuntherMT Posted March 18, 2015 #49 Posted March 18, 2015 Well done sir! I look forward to seeing the gunboat. bryanc 1 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
bryanc Posted March 18, 2015 Author #50 Posted March 18, 2015 Well done sir! I look forward to seeing the gunboat. Thanks Gunther! However it isn't going to be the gunboat, out of stock and I can't wait, need my ship building fix!! Canute and GuntherMT 2 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
bryanc Posted March 21, 2015 Author #51 Posted March 21, 2015 On Thursday I received the (heavy) box containing my Caldercraft HM Brig "Supply". I've also incidentally won a bidding war on Ebay for the Caldercraft HM Mortar Vessel Convulsion, which is coming next week!! The "Supply" has already been started however, so I'd better start a new build log for her. See you there! Bryan tkay11 1 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
Rick01 Posted November 3, 2015 #52 Posted November 3, 2015 Hi Brian - I'm contemplating building the Australian "Lady Nelson" which is a two masted brig (cutter conversion per NMM). To see if this kit is readily usable as a base I wonder if you could give me the actual dimensions of the kit hull i.e. length, beam and depth. I've the figures for the original and just need to see how much work is needed to fiddle with the hull. Thanks in advance. Rick Quote Completed builds:- HM Cutter Mermaid. HMS Endeavour's Longboat Topsail Schooner Enterprize Arab Dhow Sultan
bryanc Posted November 3, 2015 Author #53 Posted November 3, 2015 Hi Brian - I'm contemplating building the Australian "Lady Nelson" which is a two masted brig (cutter conversion per NMM). To see if this kit is readily usable as a base I wonder if you could give me the actual dimensions of the kit hull i.e. length, beam and depth. I've the figures for the original and just need to see how much work is needed to fiddle with the hull. Thanks in advance. Rick Hi Rick, I don't know how easy it will be to "bash" the standard kit as you intend. Its relatively small after all. But, (very) rough dimensions (literally just taken with a tape measure); overall length 50cms, hull length 30cms, beam 10cms, overall height 50cms and depth 8cms. She was my first "proper" complete build, and is a lovely little ship. Cheers, Bryan Canute 1 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
Rick01 Posted November 3, 2015 #54 Posted November 3, 2015 Thanks Brian - it looks as if the model is actually slightly larger that the Australian ship which at 1/64 would measure 26 cm length and 8.45 cm beam. This is an idea that I'm working on slowly but I don't think it's insurmountable. Rick Canute 1 Quote Completed builds:- HM Cutter Mermaid. HMS Endeavour's Longboat Topsail Schooner Enterprize Arab Dhow Sultan
Rick01 Posted November 5, 2015 #55 Posted November 5, 2015 One last question - was the "depth" measured including gunwales? If so can you give me the depth of the gunwales please. The other measurements are actually near as damn it correct for the Australian Lady Nelson if modelled at 1/54 so bashing may not be that hard given how close the hull appears. Rick Canute 1 Quote Completed builds:- HM Cutter Mermaid. HMS Endeavour's Longboat Topsail Schooner Enterprize Arab Dhow Sultan
bryanc Posted November 5, 2015 Author #56 Posted November 5, 2015 Hi Rick, yes it did include the gunwhales. The depth of those is about 12mm complete. Good luck with the build, I'll watch with interest should you post it. Bryan Canute 1 Quote Completed build Caronada Francese Completed build Posto di Combattimanto Current build Navio Rayo - Puesto de Combate Current build HMS Bounty Completed build HMS Victory Cross Section Completed build HM Brig "Supply" Completed build The Lady Nelson
Rick01 Posted November 5, 2015 #57 Posted November 5, 2015 Thanks again Brian - if/when I start I'll give you a heads-up. Rick Canute 1 Quote Completed builds:- HM Cutter Mermaid. HMS Endeavour's Longboat Topsail Schooner Enterprize Arab Dhow Sultan
Overworked724 Posted February 11, 2017 #58 Posted February 11, 2017 I think you did a marvelous job! This is my 'work in progress ship'. And I had some difficulties on the first layer of planking. But you did wonderfully! Something to be proud of!!! AntonyUK 1 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
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