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Lancia Armata by mikeaidanh - Panart - Armed Pinnace 1803 - Scale 1:16 - Small


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I am about to start this build in an attempt to de emphasise the amount of work, and in particular repetitive  work, that lies ahead for me in building my HMS Surprise.

 

In the very early stages I am told to apply candle wax to former edges to prevent adhesion whilst laying the planking. This is necessary as the formers must be removed and modified afterwards and the new sections replaced and glued in. Two questions: Is candle wax the best medium for this work and do i need to edge glue the planks? The model is triple planked in, firstly, 1mm x 7mm Walnut then 1mm x 6mm Lime wood and, lastly, 1mm x 6mm Walnut. 

 

Once I have some work to show off I will post photographs and comments.

 

If anyone has a build log for this model I would love to see it.

 

In advance....my thanks for any comments or suggestions.

 

Mike.


Edited by mikeaidanh, 13 December 2013 - 10:10 AM.

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Hi, I have used beeswax with good results. Don Farr

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Thanks donfarr,

I will try that.

Mike.


Current Build: HMS Surprise. AL 1:48 (suspended)

Current Build: LA gun deck cross section.

 

Previous Build: Lancia Armata. Panart 1:16 

Previous Build: HMS Pickle. Jotika 1:64

 

On the shelf: Sloupe Coquillier plans for scratch build.


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I've used masking tape with good results, but the beeswax idea sounds best.Have fun with your build



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Thanks for that mathewp,

 

Masking tape sounds good as it removes the need to de-wax the "frames" when re-inserting them.

 

I was so confused about this whole issue that I started a new topic in Building, Framing and Planking!

 

Mike. 

 


Current Build: HMS Surprise. AL 1:48 (suspended)

Current Build: LA gun deck cross section.

 

Previous Build: Lancia Armata. Panart 1:16 

Previous Build: HMS Pickle. Jotika 1:64

 

On the shelf: Sloupe Coquillier plans for scratch build.


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At last I have made some progress on this model. As I said earlier my intention was to use this build as a break from my HMS Surprise build and to try my hand at a larger scale model. What has in fact happened is the realisation that I do not have enough time to devote to one model let alone two! Never the less progress has been made on both models.

 

The following is a simple photo diary of 1803 Armed Pinnace to date.

 

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This is as far as I have gone and the model is back on the shelf as I return to my HMS Surprise (see).

 

 

 

 

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Edited by mikeaidanh, 04 April 2014 - 03:57 PM.

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Current Build: HMS Surprise. AL 1:48 (suspended)

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Looking good so far Mike. I've long admired this model so nice to see a build log of one. Out of interest, do you know why they chose to make the model triple planked?

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Hello QA,

 

Thanks for that.

 

I have no idea why triple planking was used. It is a bit of a pain to do but now that I have the end result is a very sturdy hull. Ah, so that is why it is trippled! There are no frames or bulkheads so the strength and rigidity must be within the hull itself.  Until you asked the question I had not considered the obvious! Thank you for opening my eyes.

 

The upside of this build is working in 1:16 scale. It is a delight. I shall post some updates to the build log in the near future.

 

Mike. 


Current Build: HMS Surprise. AL 1:48 (suspended)

Current Build: LA gun deck cross section.

 

Previous Build: Lancia Armata. Panart 1:16 

Previous Build: HMS Pickle. Jotika 1:64

 

On the shelf: Sloupe Coquillier plans for scratch build.


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Progress report.

 

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First planking completed - pretty rough but I have two more layers to go to improve my technique.

 

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Second planking complete. A little better but still full of errors some of which have been sanded out. Thank goodness for sanding products!

 

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The hull structure is now strong enough to let me remove the 2/3 of some of the bulkheads which are no longer needed. I am pleased to get shot of them as this allows me to do some remedial work on the visible interior planking.

 

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Third and final planking. Fitting a drop plank to put right one of my technical errors.

 

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Third planking complete and in the sanding phase.Overall I am reasonably happy with this my second attempt to plank a model

ship but, one of these days, I must learn to do it properly. I would love to watch a "master" at work.....are there any videos ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Further progress.

 

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Starting on the internal decking.Bending frames for the edges of this section. I am using the deck itself as the former for the frame bending.

 

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The larger of the two internal decks framed up and ready for planking and some gratings.

 

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Detour. Planked the stern but not to the top as some shaping needs to be applied to this later on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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......And more progress.

 

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Both internal decks framed and shown in situ for a trial fit.

 

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Partly planked deck void. Slapped some yellow ochre on before applying a decent top coat.

 

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Bought myself a cheap and simple air brush. How quickly the paint goes on! This sounds like I do not have a painters patience. Correct!

 

 

 

 


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You're making good progress Mike!

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Getting on with the internal decks.

 

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This is enjoyable work. Filling the floor voids with planking and the gratings. I found cutting and fitting the gratings to be tricky.

 

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Using useful sizes of the kit supplied timber to jig up the fitting of the foot treads.

 

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The internal decks finished and lightly oiled with Danish.

 

Moving on.

 

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Planking in the bow and stern areas.

 

This is as far as I have come to date. The next tasks will be to finally fit the internal decks into the hull before starting on the ribs and stringers.

 

More anon.

 

Mike.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Current Build: HMS Surprise. AL 1:48 (suspended)

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Previous Build: Lancia Armata. Panart 1:16 

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"This is enjoyable work."

 

It's also enjoyable for me Mick!

 

Thanks for showing and am looking forward to the rest.

 

Cheers,

 

Ron.

 

P.S. Have booked marked this.


Edited by ronkh, 05 October 2013 - 07:53 PM.


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Thank you ronkh, I will post again soon.

 

Mike.


Current Build: HMS Surprise. AL 1:48 (suspended)

Current Build: LA gun deck cross section.

 

Previous Build: Lancia Armata. Panart 1:16 

Previous Build: HMS Pickle. Jotika 1:64

 

On the shelf: Sloupe Coquillier plans for scratch build.





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