Chuck Seiler
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Looking good. Be careful, this is when it is the most delicate and vulnerable. When do you put all the 'nail dots' in? Shouldn't be more than 3 or 4 thousand. Would that be a bandersnach of nef nails? -
Bandersnatch of nefs it is. I'll alert Webster's and Oxford.
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Many thanks
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Excellent!! I was thinking about using VERY thin copper wire for nails in my Sea of Galilee boat. I will look into it. Many thanks.
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Won't that stain the wood?
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I was hoping Louis da Fly, Druxey or AnobiumPunctatum would weigh in on this. They are more knowledgeable than I on this subject. "Collective noun" would be 'medieval ship'. As I understand it, NEF is an archaic French word for "ship" and encompasses the various northern European permutations of ships between the viking longship and knarr, and the cog, including roundships and hulcs. The nef that LdF is working on (and that I have on the back burner) is roughly based on the knarr (viking cargo ship) and was used in southern England (Cinque Ports) and northern France in the 12th thru early 14th centuries. This is not unusual, since the English nobility of that period were from Normandy and the Normans were transplanted Vikings. While no nefs have been found, there is much speculation based on artwork and wrecks of knarrs from a century or so before.
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HEY!!! You told me that alcohol was used for ungluing parts!!! Anywho, pulling up a chair and bowl of popcorn.
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Doing a little math, LdF's nef is 14" at 1:75. At 1:96, that appears to pencil out at about 11". Does that sound about right?
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Mark, Welcome to MSW and as mentioned in your WINCHELSEA build log, welcome to the Middle Ages.
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I am not aware of plans of Winchelsea Nef in the National Archives...but then again there is alot I don't know. I know of the plans in the book NORMANNENSCHIFFE by Jochen von Furchs and the generic nef in the book by Zimmerman. Steven (Louie da Fly) is taking a different approach. I look forward to your build log. Welcome to the middle ages.
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Mark, What are you using for plans?
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Steven, It doesn't appear that your planks/strakes taper at the ends. Are they uniform width end to end or am I not seeing it properly?
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Steven, You are progressing well. I had problems with the issue of transitioning the clinker into the rabbet at both ends of my cog. My efforts to transition from clinker to carvel did not work very well. I eventually did a version of Druxey's option 2.
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Welcome!!!! Where are you from?
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Greetings from Santee. Have you visited the San Diego Ship Modelers Guild yet?
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I echo what others have said...it is a shame that you have lost interest since the model looks pretty good so far and you have made great progress. Sometimes taking a break from a model is the right thing to do, but be careful. If you put it on hold too long, you may not want to or be able to get back into it. I speak from experience.
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I purchased some oversized Alaskan Yellow Cedar for my "Sea of Galilee" boat as well as some boxwood for a future nef. Both transactions were great and the wood is great as well. Very satisfied customer. Welcome aboard Joe.
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For Beginners -- A Cautionary Tale
Chuck Seiler replied to ccoyle's topic in New member Introductions
You wouldn't be the first. I agree with Gregory, start with simpler kits. Build them for their own benefit but also as a work up to "Soleil". Check out the plans and instructions from time to time and if there are questions, work out the issues with the simpler models. Those are easier to deconstruct and rebuild. -
Divers Discover 2nd Century Military Ship off Egypt
Chuck Seiler replied to Ian_Grant's topic in Nautical/Naval History
The "Sea of Galilee Boat" used M+T joints and definitely reused wood. Not Egyptian. That was just the practice in the eastert Med area. -
You can never have too many clamps...or rubber bands. After a basic bevel of some edges, I soaked the plank and clamped it into position to dry. I checked Kyle's build log to see what methods he used and planned accordingly. I have some larger clamps but wanted to keep them small if I could. So far so good. We'll see what happens when I unclamp. The result was not bad. A close examination shows the bevel needs to be touched up a little, but nothing dramatic. Tomorrow I will don magnification and get to work.
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