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    dafi got a reaction from rybakov in David Steel's The Art of Rigging: Juxtapositions, analyses and the yet unknown   
    Another difference I noticed are the yard tackle blocks and the braces pendants.
     

     
     
    Steel mentions that the pendants of the braces of the main yard*** were 1/10 of the length of the yard. In the navy they were sometimes operated without pendants, i.e. the block was lashed directly to the yardarm.
    In this matter, one probably has the freedom, as long as no direct references can be found in the logbooks. Are there any hints for that? @Morgan
     
    It is interesting to note that Steel has replaced many long tackle blocks with normal double blocks. In particular, the stay tackle blocks and the yard tackle blocks are equipped with 17" double blocks instead of 24" long tackle blocks. More stable blocks or simplification of the material list? Or signs of the beginning machine milling of blocks? All other sources speak of violin blocks for the entire time frame.
    Steel also gives the length of the pendants of the yard tackle blocks as 1/10 of the yardarm length. In many other sources I have the impression that the pendants extend to the fishing in the middle of the yard, i.e. they were about twice as long.
     
    The two different versions are shown opposite each other in the picture.
     
    And how could it be otherwise, questions upon questions ...
     
    XXXDAn
     
    *** The brace pendants of the foresail are 1/8 of the yard length according to the Steel
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    dafi got a reaction from Hubac's Historian in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from rybakov in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from popeye2sea in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from Beef Wellington in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from 72Nova in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from _SalD_ in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from davyboy in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from schooner in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from druxey in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from gjdale in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from Thukydides in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from Mexspur in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    After the leechline and bowline blocks had worked out so well, we continued with the tricing lines of the yard tackles pendants.

    The block on the yard tackle pendant was hauled to the yard with the outer tricing line and the lower block with hooks was hauled with the inner tricing lines to the shrouds to be hooked/fastened there. Unlike other load rigs, the yard tackles were not struck off when not in use, but were also used as to support the braces in strong winds or for other purposes.

    And so that the whole thing doesn't get too boring, this time the blocks are 7" and 8", i.e. 2 mm in my scale. But it doesn't matter, it works just like the other 🙂

    First on the filed needle, then stropped in as usual ...



    ... and succeding the function test.



    Fits. Then, as usual, tied the eyes with the pointed clamping tweezers and quickly put them all on the leash, such a stopped block is too quickly inhaled.



    And to show that you can get these blocks to the yard even with sausage fingers like mine ...



    ... you just have to make sure that you …



    … get not tangled. And already finished.



    You can clearly see the noticeable difference between the 2 mm block of the tricing line and the 2.5 mm blocks of the leechline.

    The tricing line is one of the thinnest in the entire rigging, here hanging loosely with the yard tackle in use ...



    ... and with the yard tackle pulled up.



    For the sake of completeness, the inner tricing line next to the 4 mm clue line block.



    XXXDAn
  15. Wow!
    dafi got a reaction from Hubac's Historian in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    Well, what can I say. I'm only away for a few weeks because of work and already my tinkering room doesn't want to let me back in ...

    "What does THIS strange man want here?!" was one of the nicer questions I had to listen to ...

    After some persuasion à la "man cave whisperer", I was allowed to do something in there after all. In the meantime, I had revised my lists of blocks for the Victory again. I had noticed that McKay had left out some quite some blocks in the AOTS and that there were also some errors among them. I had therefore plowed through the entire Steel of 1795 and worked through the various entries, compared them and selected the most plausible variant, possibly adding variants. All in all, there were significantly more blocks added, both the standard blocks and the special types. But more on that later.

    The last thing I did was to replace the square shoulder blocks, which are used on the ship today and which McKay also shows, with contemporary round ones. The main yard continues to serve as a model playing field. Here is a reminder of the last status.





    Next came 3 x 2.5 mm blocks on each side for the belly and nock gordings.



    Check on the tweezers whether the paint application is complete and either brush on the tweezers immediately ...



    ... or after the block has been pinned. Place a strop around the fixed block as described before ...



    ... and checked the length in place. Since the block hangs in front of the yard, the legs must of course be different lengths.



    The pointed tweezers with clamping function do a good job here, first one side ...



    ... and neatly trimmed, and the other and you're done 🙂



    Here is a comparison of the simplified version with a simple knot on the top of the yardarm and the more correct solution with a lashing.

    Since the lashing is tricky to thread, a classic needle helps.



    And this is how it should look 🙂



    With this technique, I'm now just as fast for the small blocks as I am for the large ones 🙂

    XXXDAn  
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    dafi got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Victory by dafi - Heller - PLASTIC - To Victory and beyond ...   
    Well, what can I say. I'm only away for a few weeks because of work and already my tinkering room doesn't want to let me back in ...

    "What does THIS strange man want here?!" was one of the nicer questions I had to listen to ...

    After some persuasion à la "man cave whisperer", I was allowed to do something in there after all. In the meantime, I had revised my lists of blocks for the Victory again. I had noticed that McKay had left out some quite some blocks in the AOTS and that there were also some errors among them. I had therefore plowed through the entire Steel of 1795 and worked through the various entries, compared them and selected the most plausible variant, possibly adding variants. All in all, there were significantly more blocks added, both the standard blocks and the special types. But more on that later.

    The last thing I did was to replace the square shoulder blocks, which are used on the ship today and which McKay also shows, with contemporary round ones. The main yard continues to serve as a model playing field. Here is a reminder of the last status.





    Next came 3 x 2.5 mm blocks on each side for the belly and nock gordings.



    Check on the tweezers whether the paint application is complete and either brush on the tweezers immediately ...



    ... or after the block has been pinned. Place a strop around the fixed block as described before ...



    ... and checked the length in place. Since the block hangs in front of the yard, the legs must of course be different lengths.



    The pointed tweezers with clamping function do a good job here, first one side ...



    ... and neatly trimmed, and the other and you're done 🙂



    Here is a comparison of the simplified version with a simple knot on the top of the yardarm and the more correct solution with a lashing.

    Since the lashing is tricky to thread, a classic needle helps.



    And this is how it should look 🙂



    With this technique, I'm now just as fast for the small blocks as I am for the large ones 🙂

    XXXDAn  
  17. Like
    dafi got a reaction from mtaylor in David Steel's The Art of Rigging: Juxtapositions, analyses and the yet unknown   
    At that times the jackstays were in use, this  confirming the length seen on my small scale sailors.
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    dafi got a reaction from BANYAN in David Steel's The Art of Rigging: Juxtapositions, analyses and the yet unknown   
    I was most surprised by the stirrups: 3 feet below the yard.

    When I held my scale seaman next to it, my suspicions were confirmed: damn deep ...

    ... I would have instinctively hung it 4 mm higher so that my little Able Seaman had a chance of getting over it.
     
    If you add up the 90 cm, the thickness of the yard is up to 60 cm, as in the case of the main yard. That's 150 cm, just under my chin. Then there is also the depth of the yard  to consider, so that in addition to the 90 cm length under the yard, there is also approx. 0.5 x the diameter of the yard. Another escalating factor is that the horse can sag quite a bit in the middle between two stirrups.
     
    To be able to judge this better, I trained two Able Seamen, one for the thickest part of the big yard with a diameter of 60 cm and one for the yardarm with a diameter of 30 cm.
     
    First the variant with 3 feet under the yard. The sailor on the thick yard has very bad cards. The tar jacket on the thin end fits better.

    If I refer the 3 feet to the center of the yard, it's better.

    If you relate the 90 cm to the upper edge of the yard, it fits best. Here the sailor has the opportunity to use the horses at the thick point, the colleague on the outside still hangs at a similar height.

    To confirm this interpretation of Steel's specification I had a closer look from the side.

    The red part of the stirrups is about 3 Feet and it looks perfect both for the simply standing on it as for the working in a upswung position.
     
    If one takes the other descriptions the remarks to the simplyfied "3 feet underneath the yard" it would possibly read like this:
    Stirrup long 3 Feet, nailed to the top of the yard, with enough overlength to do 3 turns around the yard. Hangs behind and underneath the yard.
     
    Could this interpretation be correct?

    XXXDAn
     
     
     
     
     
  19. Like
    dafi got a reaction from Keith Black in David Steel's The Art of Rigging: Juxtapositions, analyses and the yet unknown   
    For the blocks of my Victory I had to work my way through David Steel's The Art of Rigging. Originally, I had oriented myself on McKay's AOTS, but then realized that there was still a lot omitted and there were also some errors.
    Steel is much more detailed, but there are some ambiguities as well as differences to other sources. Here are a few that I am working on and wondering about 🙂
     
     
  20. Like
    dafi got a reaction from rybakov in David Steel's The Art of Rigging: Juxtapositions, analyses and the yet unknown   
    I was most surprised by the stirrups: 3 feet below the yard.

    When I held my scale seaman next to it, my suspicions were confirmed: damn deep ...

    ... I would have instinctively hung it 4 mm higher so that my little Able Seaman had a chance of getting over it.
     
    If you add up the 90 cm, the thickness of the yard is up to 60 cm, as in the case of the main yard. That's 150 cm, just under my chin. Then there is also the depth of the yard  to consider, so that in addition to the 90 cm length under the yard, there is also approx. 0.5 x the diameter of the yard. Another escalating factor is that the horse can sag quite a bit in the middle between two stirrups.
     
    To be able to judge this better, I trained two Able Seamen, one for the thickest part of the big yard with a diameter of 60 cm and one for the yardarm with a diameter of 30 cm.
     
    First the variant with 3 feet under the yard. The sailor on the thick yard has very bad cards. The tar jacket on the thin end fits better.

    If I refer the 3 feet to the center of the yard, it's better.

    If you relate the 90 cm to the upper edge of the yard, it fits best. Here the sailor has the opportunity to use the horses at the thick point, the colleague on the outside still hangs at a similar height.

    To confirm this interpretation of Steel's specification I had a closer look from the side.

    The red part of the stirrups is about 3 Feet and it looks perfect both for the simply standing on it as for the working in a upswung position.
     
    If one takes the other descriptions the remarks to the simplyfied "3 feet underneath the yard" it would possibly read like this:
    Stirrup long 3 Feet, nailed to the top of the yard, with enough overlength to do 3 turns around the yard. Hangs behind and underneath the yard.
     
    Could this interpretation be correct?

    XXXDAn
     
     
     
     
     
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    dafi got a reaction from Keith Black in David Steel's The Art of Rigging: Juxtapositions, analyses and the yet unknown   
    He is quite tall for the times with 1,80 cm being 71".
     
    XXXDAn
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    dafi got a reaction from Keith Black in David Steel's The Art of Rigging: Juxtapositions, analyses and the yet unknown   
    At that times the jackstays were in use, this  confirming the length seen on my small scale sailors.
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    dafi reacted to Jim Lad in David Steel's The Art of Rigging: Juxtapositions, analyses and the yet unknown   
    For late 19th/early 20th century, Harold Underhill suggests roughly 3 feet 6 inches for the total finished length of the stirrups.
     
    John
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    dafi got a reaction from allanyed in David Steel's The Art of Rigging: Juxtapositions, analyses and the yet unknown   
    At that times the jackstays were in use, this  confirming the length seen on my small scale sailors.
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    dafi reacted to Blue Ensign in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale   
    Post One Hundred and Sixty-six
    My version of Indy is effectively completed now and with some serious moving about of models within my workroom/office, I have found room to house Indy in the prominent position she deserves, and without encroaching on other areas of the house.
    4223
    She has displaced Norske Love which now has a new position vacated by Alert which also has a new location.

    e2008a
    Had I completed the masting on Indy it would be in the order of that of Norske Love which is of a slightly smaller scale of 1:70.

    e2012a
    Norske Love has received a well overdue clean, having endured all the dust created during the construction of ‘Indy’.

    4022
    Not quite ready for the glass cover to be on yet, but at least the issue of ‘where are you going to put that’ is now resolved.
    As a bonus the lower profile of Indy compared to Norske love will allow me to re-arrange the wall Pictures and perhaps get one of Indy.
     
    I have decided to have a further dabble with the boats, and have started assembly of the 26’ Launch, pity not to make them up as they are provided with the kit.
     
    B.E.
    06/04/2024
     
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