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    FriedClams
    michael mott got a reaction from FriedClams in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Bob thanks for the detailed information regarding the through hull outlets and the siphon loops. I had not really thought about this aspect of our modern small cruise boats let alone the older craft.
     
    I agree...But....  but my grandaughter  would not.
    Seriously though The idea is to be able to show what can be seen relatively easily and a few things that need a little searching but still visible with perhaps a small dental type mirror. I do want to move on to the next project before I am too old to have fun.
     
    Thank you to everyone who is following along and showing their appreciation in one way or another.
     
    Michael
     
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    MAGIC's Craig
    michael mott got a reaction from MAGIC's Craig in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Bob thanks for the detailed information regarding the through hull outlets and the siphon loops. I had not really thought about this aspect of our modern small cruise boats let alone the older craft.
     
    I agree...But....  but my grandaughter  would not.
    Seriously though The idea is to be able to show what can be seen relatively easily and a few things that need a little searching but still visible with perhaps a small dental type mirror. I do want to move on to the next project before I am too old to have fun.
     
    Thank you to everyone who is following along and showing their appreciation in one way or another.
     
    Michael
     
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    billocrates
    michael mott got a reaction from billocrates in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    I had a long chat with the owner and he reminded me that we were on a budget with this refit so I mentioned that I would try to find a used copper sink, I found one on MYBAY it was the right price.
     

     
    Checked the fit
     

     

     
    Ok so here's how I did it
     

     
    Cut out a bit of copper sheet

    made up a former from some scrap maple 2x1.5x 3/4 then sanded it smooth.  Annealed the copper and started bashing
     

     
    Many annealings and bashings later with a leather mallet
     

    and more bashings couple of different hammers but mostly with a too big ball pein.
     

     
    A couple of clean up hammerings and then cleaned up the top and dropped it into the pickle .

     
    I picked up the gauntlet Druxey you have a habit of dropping it.😉
     
    I'm not going down that other rabbit hole
     
    Greg I think I read an article about that Model in a Scale ships or similar magazine I seem to recall it had gold and silver fittings.
     
    Eberhard, I have not figured it out yet I will be doing a bit of searching to see if I can find some better pictures of the type that is in Integrity.
     
    Michael
     
     
     
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    mtaylor
    michael mott got a reaction from mtaylor in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Bob thanks for the detailed information regarding the through hull outlets and the siphon loops. I had not really thought about this aspect of our modern small cruise boats let alone the older craft.
     
    I agree...But....  but my grandaughter  would not.
    Seriously though The idea is to be able to show what can be seen relatively easily and a few things that need a little searching but still visible with perhaps a small dental type mirror. I do want to move on to the next project before I am too old to have fun.
     
    Thank you to everyone who is following along and showing their appreciation in one way or another.
     
    Michael
     
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    Thukydides
    michael mott got a reaction from Thukydides in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Well here is the truth about the new sink.
    First task was to start with a new former

     
    And cut a new sheet of copper .031"

     
    After laying out the cuts use jewelers saw.

     
    Then without any annealing begin the folds

     

     

     
    At this point I needed to do some cutting and used a small nibbler

     

     
    Then the trimmed edges need to be cleaned up this was done by first unfolding the metal a little
     

     
    Then using a bit of wood as a guide filed the edges.

     
    The refolded and wired the seams together  and used easyflo silver solder to join the seams. My silver soldering skills still leave a lot to be desired but I am improving.

     
    and it looks better than the first one.
     

     
    I would do it differently if I had to do it again, making only clean corner joints...... but that's for another boat.
     
    Michael
     
     
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    GrandpaPhil
    michael mott got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Well here is the truth about the new sink.
    First task was to start with a new former

     
    And cut a new sheet of copper .031"

     
    After laying out the cuts use jewelers saw.

     
    Then without any annealing begin the folds

     

     

     
    At this point I needed to do some cutting and used a small nibbler

     

     
    Then the trimmed edges need to be cleaned up this was done by first unfolding the metal a little
     

     
    Then using a bit of wood as a guide filed the edges.

     
    The refolded and wired the seams together  and used easyflo silver solder to join the seams. My silver soldering skills still leave a lot to be desired but I am improving.

     
    and it looks better than the first one.
     

     
    I would do it differently if I had to do it again, making only clean corner joints...... but that's for another boat.
     
    Michael
     
     
  7. Like
    FriedClams
    michael mott got a reaction from FriedClams in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Yes this is interesting, The model is really a vehicle for my learning about model ships and boats.
     
    And in reality it is just that, because I am using materials and ideas from all sort of times and styles. 
     
    I spent some time today discussing the bashed up sink with the owner and he said "well I know we are on a budget but its not that tight, cant you find a better sink than that."
    So looking around I found this one
     

     
    Michael
     
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    Valeriy V
    michael mott got a reaction from Valeriy V in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Well here is the truth about the new sink.
    First task was to start with a new former

     
    And cut a new sheet of copper .031"

     
    After laying out the cuts use jewelers saw.

     
    Then without any annealing begin the folds

     

     

     
    At this point I needed to do some cutting and used a small nibbler

     

     
    Then the trimmed edges need to be cleaned up this was done by first unfolding the metal a little
     

     
    Then using a bit of wood as a guide filed the edges.

     
    The refolded and wired the seams together  and used easyflo silver solder to join the seams. My silver soldering skills still leave a lot to be desired but I am improving.

     
    and it looks better than the first one.
     

     
    I would do it differently if I had to do it again, making only clean corner joints...... but that's for another boat.
     
    Michael
     
     
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    Ryland Craze
    michael mott got a reaction from Ryland Craze in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    It depends on the thickness of the material and the number of teeth. The coarser blades are generally easier for the wood. In this case the blade was fine enough to also cut the copper because it was sharp and had not become dull from cutting metal before.
     
    This graphic representation shows the .031 copper and the #1 jewelers blade that has 47 teeth per inch next to the edge of the metal there need to be at least 2 teeth engaging with the metal or the blade will catch and there is a possibility of ripping off a tooth and or snapping the blade.
     

     
    I hope this answers your question. I also have some #8/0, #5/0, #3/0 The #8/0 is the finest.
     
    Michael
  10. Like
    WalrusGuy
    michael mott got a reaction from WalrusGuy in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Bob thanks for the detailed information regarding the through hull outlets and the siphon loops. I had not really thought about this aspect of our modern small cruise boats let alone the older craft.
     
    I agree...But....  but my grandaughter  would not.
    Seriously though The idea is to be able to show what can be seen relatively easily and a few things that need a little searching but still visible with perhaps a small dental type mirror. I do want to move on to the next project before I am too old to have fun.
     
    Thank you to everyone who is following along and showing their appreciation in one way or another.
     
    Michael
     
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    Retired guy
    michael mott got a reaction from Retired guy in US Brig Syren by WalrusGuy - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 - Second wooden ship build   
    Your work on the masts and rigging so far is looking really great nice and tidy, Im sure you will have no trouble with the ratlines.
     
    Michael
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    michael mott
    michael mott reacted to Bitao in YOUNG AMERICA 1853 by Bitao - FINISHED - 1:72   
    The construction of the main deck has finally begun.......
     

     
     
     
     

     
     
     
     

     
     
     
     

     
     
     
     

     
     
     
     

     
     
     
     
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    FriedClams
    michael mott got a reaction from FriedClams in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    It depends on the thickness of the material and the number of teeth. The coarser blades are generally easier for the wood. In this case the blade was fine enough to also cut the copper because it was sharp and had not become dull from cutting metal before.
     
    This graphic representation shows the .031 copper and the #1 jewelers blade that has 47 teeth per inch next to the edge of the metal there need to be at least 2 teeth engaging with the metal or the blade will catch and there is a possibility of ripping off a tooth and or snapping the blade.
     

     
    I hope this answers your question. I also have some #8/0, #5/0, #3/0 The #8/0 is the finest.
     
    Michael
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    michael mott
    michael mott reacted to wefalck in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Talking about sawing thin sheet-metal: many years ago I built a kind of POB model of a steam-tug by constructing the keel part and bulkheads from 0.5 mm and 0.25 mm brass sheet respectively. At that time it did not occur to me to laminate the brass onto some plywood (and I would have considered that wasteful, but was struggling even with the fine sawblades I had. I then discovered that putting the sawbladed upside down into the saw worked very well.
     
    I was joking about the copper pans in the pantry - I think one should not turn this kind of model into a floating dollhouse.
  15. Like
    Ryland Craze
    michael mott got a reaction from Ryland Craze in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Well here is the truth about the new sink.
    First task was to start with a new former

     
    And cut a new sheet of copper .031"

     
    After laying out the cuts use jewelers saw.

     
    Then without any annealing begin the folds

     

     

     
    At this point I needed to do some cutting and used a small nibbler

     

     
    Then the trimmed edges need to be cleaned up this was done by first unfolding the metal a little
     

     
    Then using a bit of wood as a guide filed the edges.

     
    The refolded and wired the seams together  and used easyflo silver solder to join the seams. My silver soldering skills still leave a lot to be desired but I am improving.

     
    and it looks better than the first one.
     

     
    I would do it differently if I had to do it again, making only clean corner joints...... but that's for another boat.
     
    Michael
     
     
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    mtaylor
    michael mott got a reaction from mtaylor in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    I'll have to wrap my head around this one!  Just a never ending list of details...will it ever end?😉
     
    Michael
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    Tony Hunt
    michael mott got a reaction from Tony Hunt in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Well here is the truth about the new sink.
    First task was to start with a new former

     
    And cut a new sheet of copper .031"

     
    After laying out the cuts use jewelers saw.

     
    Then without any annealing begin the folds

     

     

     
    At this point I needed to do some cutting and used a small nibbler

     

     
    Then the trimmed edges need to be cleaned up this was done by first unfolding the metal a little
     

     
    Then using a bit of wood as a guide filed the edges.

     
    The refolded and wired the seams together  and used easyflo silver solder to join the seams. My silver soldering skills still leave a lot to be desired but I am improving.

     
    and it looks better than the first one.
     

     
    I would do it differently if I had to do it again, making only clean corner joints...... but that's for another boat.
     
    Michael
     
     
  18. Like
    FriedClams
    michael mott got a reaction from FriedClams in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Well here is the truth about the new sink.
    First task was to start with a new former

     
    And cut a new sheet of copper .031"

     
    After laying out the cuts use jewelers saw.

     
    Then without any annealing begin the folds

     

     

     
    At this point I needed to do some cutting and used a small nibbler

     

     
    Then the trimmed edges need to be cleaned up this was done by first unfolding the metal a little
     

     
    Then using a bit of wood as a guide filed the edges.

     
    The refolded and wired the seams together  and used easyflo silver solder to join the seams. My silver soldering skills still leave a lot to be desired but I am improving.

     
    and it looks better than the first one.
     

     
    I would do it differently if I had to do it again, making only clean corner joints...... but that's for another boat.
     
    Michael
     
     
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    mtaylor
    michael mott got a reaction from mtaylor in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    It depends on the thickness of the material and the number of teeth. The coarser blades are generally easier for the wood. In this case the blade was fine enough to also cut the copper because it was sharp and had not become dull from cutting metal before.
     
    This graphic representation shows the .031 copper and the #1 jewelers blade that has 47 teeth per inch next to the edge of the metal there need to be at least 2 teeth engaging with the metal or the blade will catch and there is a possibility of ripping off a tooth and or snapping the blade.
     

     
    I hope this answers your question. I also have some #8/0, #5/0, #3/0 The #8/0 is the finest.
     
    Michael
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    BANYAN
    michael mott got a reaction from BANYAN in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Well here is the truth about the new sink.
    First task was to start with a new former

     
    And cut a new sheet of copper .031"

     
    After laying out the cuts use jewelers saw.

     
    Then without any annealing begin the folds

     

     

     
    At this point I needed to do some cutting and used a small nibbler

     

     
    Then the trimmed edges need to be cleaned up this was done by first unfolding the metal a little
     

     
    Then using a bit of wood as a guide filed the edges.

     
    The refolded and wired the seams together  and used easyflo silver solder to join the seams. My silver soldering skills still leave a lot to be desired but I am improving.

     
    and it looks better than the first one.
     

     
    I would do it differently if I had to do it again, making only clean corner joints...... but that's for another boat.
     
    Michael
     
     
  21. Like
    mtaylor
    michael mott got a reaction from mtaylor in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Yes this is interesting, The model is really a vehicle for my learning about model ships and boats.
     
    And in reality it is just that, because I am using materials and ideas from all sort of times and styles. 
     
    I spent some time today discussing the bashed up sink with the owner and he said "well I know we are on a budget but its not that tight, cant you find a better sink than that."
    So looking around I found this one
     

     
    Michael
     
  22. Like
    Jack12477
    michael mott got a reaction from Jack12477 in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    It depends on the thickness of the material and the number of teeth. The coarser blades are generally easier for the wood. In this case the blade was fine enough to also cut the copper because it was sharp and had not become dull from cutting metal before.
     
    This graphic representation shows the .031 copper and the #1 jewelers blade that has 47 teeth per inch next to the edge of the metal there need to be at least 2 teeth engaging with the metal or the blade will catch and there is a possibility of ripping off a tooth and or snapping the blade.
     

     
    I hope this answers your question. I also have some #8/0, #5/0, #3/0 The #8/0 is the finest.
     
    Michael
  23. Like
    druxey
    michael mott got a reaction from druxey in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    I'll have to wrap my head around this one!  Just a never ending list of details...will it ever end?😉
     
    Michael
  24. Like
    mtaylor
    michael mott got a reaction from mtaylor in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Well here is the truth about the new sink.
    First task was to start with a new former

     
    And cut a new sheet of copper .031"

     
    After laying out the cuts use jewelers saw.

     
    Then without any annealing begin the folds

     

     

     
    At this point I needed to do some cutting and used a small nibbler

     

     
    Then the trimmed edges need to be cleaned up this was done by first unfolding the metal a little
     

     
    Then using a bit of wood as a guide filed the edges.

     
    The refolded and wired the seams together  and used easyflo silver solder to join the seams. My silver soldering skills still leave a lot to be desired but I am improving.

     
    and it looks better than the first one.
     

     
    I would do it differently if I had to do it again, making only clean corner joints...... but that's for another boat.
     
    Michael
     
     
  25. Like
    cog
    michael mott got a reaction from cog in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF   
    Yes this is interesting, The model is really a vehicle for my learning about model ships and boats.
     
    And in reality it is just that, because I am using materials and ideas from all sort of times and styles. 
     
    I spent some time today discussing the bashed up sink with the owner and he said "well I know we are on a budget but its not that tight, cant you find a better sink than that."
    So looking around I found this one
     

     
    Michael
     

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