drhemlock2

Very slight but very important progress has been made this week, the buildboard has had all the frame lines scribed into it and the acrylic frames and keel holders have been screwed on.
I used the plan to mark points at all the frame intersections with a sharp awl, the the plan was reversed to do the other side. Then the points were joined using a steel rule and a sharp exacto blade, then graphite was rubbed into the scores and then cleaned off and the surface scraped with a razor to leave a smooth surface. It took several hours but came out matching the plans really well with little deviation.
 
Ben

got the wood for bulkhead work also contacted lumber mill about planking and assorted woods decided on pear and cedar planking. also got some equipment to aide in build.
thanks
james

got the wood for bulkhead work also contacted lumber mill about planking and assorted woods decided on pear and cedar planking. also got some equipment to aide in build.
thanks
james

I plan on dropping everything had going and getting this ship on the build table. using Alex's plans which I got in full surprise to me, thanks Alex let me know if I owe you anything. bear with me people as I am a disabled vet USAF with only one usable arm. luckily it is my left arm that is damaged. I am learning to do everything with my right hand and arm with a small assist from my left hand when I can. I have to type one-fingered I will try and spell check as best I can. thanks wish me luck
James🙃

okay checked out my build table and board seems like this will work, next is to finish putting together some tools i got recently have to take time rebuilding my strength in hands and body.
James
 

I plan on dropping everything had going and getting this ship on the build table. using Alex's plans which I got in full surprise to me, thanks Alex let me know if I owe you anything. bear with me people as I am a disabled vet USAF with only one usable arm. luckily it is my left arm that is damaged. I am learning to do everything with my right hand and arm with a small assist from my left hand when I can. I have to type one-fingered I will try and spell check as best I can. thanks wish me luck
James🙃

1/48 better size for me and my problems thanks should have wrote that down.
James

I plan on dropping everything had going and getting this ship on the build table. using Alex's plans which I got in full surprise to me, thanks Alex let me know if I owe you anything. bear with me people as I am a disabled vet USAF with only one usable arm. luckily it is my left arm that is damaged. I am learning to do everything with my right hand and arm with a small assist from my left hand when I can. I have to type one-fingered I will try and spell check as best I can. thanks wish me luck
James🙃

1/48 better size for me and my problems thanks should have wrote that down.
James

I plan on dropping everything had going and getting this ship on the build table. using Alex's plans which I got in full surprise to me, thanks Alex let me know if I owe you anything. bear with me people as I am a disabled vet USAF with only one usable arm. luckily it is my left arm that is damaged. I am learning to do everything with my right hand and arm with a small assist from my left hand when I can. I have to type one-fingered I will try and spell check as best I can. thanks wish me luck
James🙃

I plan to use what i am learning from chuck's and others teachings and skill sets. now to order some wood 1/4 inch ply first then layout some stuff and get to cutting. I have some planning to do as well as drawing some things out.
James
 

I plan on dropping everything had going and getting this ship on the build table. using Alex's plans which I got in full surprise to me, thanks Alex let me know if I owe you anything. bear with me people as I am a disabled vet USAF with only one usable arm. luckily it is my left arm that is damaged. I am learning to do everything with my right hand and arm with a small assist from my left hand when I can. I have to type one-fingered I will try and spell check as best I can. thanks wish me luck
James🙃

I plan to use what i am learning from chuck's and others teachings and skill sets. now to order some wood 1/4 inch ply first then layout some stuff and get to cutting. I have some planning to do as well as drawing some things out.
James
 

I plan on dropping everything had going and getting this ship on the build table. using Alex's plans which I got in full surprise to me, thanks Alex let me know if I owe you anything. bear with me people as I am a disabled vet USAF with only one usable arm. luckily it is my left arm that is damaged. I am learning to do everything with my right hand and arm with a small assist from my left hand when I can. I have to type one-fingered I will try and spell check as best I can. thanks wish me luck
James🙃

I plan on dropping everything had going and getting this ship on the build table. using Alex's plans which I got in full surprise to me, thanks Alex let me know if I owe you anything. bear with me people as I am a disabled vet USAF with only one usable arm. luckily it is my left arm that is damaged. I am learning to do everything with my right hand and arm with a small assist from my left hand when I can. I have to type one-fingered I will try and spell check as best I can. thanks wish me luck
James🙃

I plan on dropping everything had going and getting this ship on the build table. using Alex's plans which I got in full surprise to me, thanks Alex let me know if I owe you anything. bear with me people as I am a disabled vet USAF with only one usable arm. luckily it is my left arm that is damaged. I am learning to do everything with my right hand and arm with a small assist from my left hand when I can. I have to type one-fingered I will try and spell check as best I can. thanks wish me luck
James🙃

Hi all
this is the opening of my shipyard for building this little ship. Well... maybe little in the real world, because due to the scale the complete model will be longer than 1 meter, so quite huge for normal standards (I mean the standard size of Italian houses).
 
An explanation about the title of this topic: ‘Brick de 24’ is the name of a class of ships, brigs type, whose main weapons were 24pdr carronades, in the number of 14. Other weapons were two 6pdr long guns.
They were designed (most of them) by the master designer Pestel and built between 1806 and 1813.
 
Many more information can be read here:
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7795-brick-de-24-by-jackaubrey-148-scale/#entry231121
in the topic of my good friend, and co-builder, Jack Aubrey.
 
The ship plans are available in the excellent monography “Le Cygne” issued by Ancre, including 19 sheets of 1:48 scale detailed drawings and plans.
 
This will be a joint construction: JA started before, and completed the most difficult job of transferring the Ancre plans to AutoCAD.
I assisted at the starting of his project and was really impressed by the beauty of this ship: I already had lot of pictures of Le Cygne and Le Cyclope (another ship of the same class) in my database, and have always looked at them as a possibility for the future. So when JA started the possible future become the present, and I contacted him to ask if I could joint his project.
So, before anything else, I have to say THANK YOU SO MUCH to my friend Sergio for allowing me to join him in the project and for providing me, for free, the CAD plans to start with my model.
My copy of the monography has been shipped and is on the way, but unfortunately I’ll have to wait for it until the end of this month.
 
As JA explained, we decided to build a different shipmodel with respect to those already existing, namely Le Cygne, Le Cyclope, Le Cureiux and L’Esperance. More, JA decided (or initially thought about) to show her after  it was seized by the Royal Navy and re-commissioned for active service with the British, so with some modification to the original Ancre plans.
I’ve not decided yet what to do, but I will probably stick to the French configuration making good use of the excellent Ancre plans.
 
Which ship? We had a long discussion about this item, and I told Sergio that I will leave to him the priority of choice among the names that he elected as preferred. Therefore I will decide after him, but the rose of candidates is restricted among:
- Le Nisus (1805), seized in 1809 (--> HMS Guadeloupe)
- Le Milan (1806), seized in 1809 (--> HMS Achates)
- Le Phaéton (1806), seized in 1806 (--> HMS Mignonne)
- Le Colibri  (1809), seized in 1809 (--> HMS Colibrì)
 
The figurehead will be fictious, as no information exists for these ships, but obviously based on the name of the ship. I will find in internet some beautiful picture of that birds and do my best to get a decently carved figurehead.
 
The model
The size is quite large, according to Ancre website it will be 74cm long (the hull, 116cm fully rigged), 17cm wide (52cm rigged) and 17cm high (86cm tall fully rigged).
The wood will be... ehm ... well, whatever I manage to find. I mean, it’s quite difficult here in Italy to find sources of good wood for modelling at acceptable prices. I have some pearwood available, some other is seasoning, will use poplar plywood for the hull structure, probably limewood for the deck, a reddish variant of pinewood for the bulwarks, yet don’t know what for the hull planking (well, the hull is coppered so probably it is not important).
The model will be POB type.
 
After this long presentation...
 
October 19th, 2014
Grand opening of the shipyard, the first sawdust is produced...
 



 
My best regards
Fam

After many (and many more) hours of effort by numerous volunteers, it is now ready and available for viewing.  Joshua Humphreys is acknowledged as the principal designer of the original six American frigates.  His son, Samuel, was Chief Naval constructor from 1826 until his death in 1846.
 
The Notebook represents essentially an Aide-mémoire or ready reference on a wide variety of information related to ships and shipbuilding.  It opens with the hand copied British Establishment of 1719, and also includes the 1745 establishment, dimensions of many vessels from several nations, and notations on ships wheels, various capstans and much more.  It runs chronologically from the first entry (not dated) - some entries provide clues as to the date (such as a notation "captured by the British in 1813) but that also is sporadic.  For example, there is an entry for "Dimensions of spars of US Frigate President" followed by "Dimensions of Spars of US Frigate Constitution", however they follow entries for the "Dimension of Brig US Nautilus captured by The British in 1812" and "Rules for masting Frigates 1809", and are followed by "Dimensions of Ship Madison Corvette, Built-Launched at Sacketts Harbour on the Lakes November 1812" and an entry titled "Sept 1814 A Better Rule".
 
Overall, there is a great deal of information of various detail provided which can aid in understanding the basis for some of the ship design philosophies of Joshua and Samuel.  Please note that spellings have been retained as they appear in the source document for the most part, so there may be multiple spellings of the same word.  Emendation has generally been restricted to converting the thorn (looks like a y as in ye ) to the appropriate word (such as "the" for ye ), and spelling out certain abbreviations. 
 
It can be downloaded from the Modelshipbuilder website at the bottom of the resources page here:
http://modelshipbuilder.com/page.php?24
 
We hope that this is a useful reference work for you, and have plans to add to the body of knowledge as we continue transcription of other documents related to the early Navy.

Sarcofagus, you could put the photos on an independent site such as "Photobucket" and post the link.  BILL

Some time ago, intrigued by the new monograph by Delacroix I ordered a copy of this Corvette
 

 
I started to study a little the plans and I want to try to build it.
I decided, before setting up his yard, to work to  one of the most difficult to escape unscathed (at least for me) in carpentry construction: the oarlocks hawse.
The basic idea is to build the hull in pear and the topsides above the waterline, ebony for the stem and stern.
 
The first step was to build the first rib:
 

 

 

 
To get the right angle for different oarlocks I helped with an iPhone app that acts as inclinometer with whom I adjusted the angle of the grip in which I placed a swivel base for processing the milling machine

 

 
To avoid damaging the stem during the processing of the oarlocks, I built a wheel that will be provisionally removed when will I get the two "shells".

 

thanks guys I guess I am just getting old I like old things...
doc

Thanks for the video i have gotten it for later use keep up the vids we can all use tips and tricks.
 
Doc
 

forgot to mention frames have all been cut awaiting the backbone to be finished.
doc

INTRODUCTION
 
 
This is the build log for Hr. Ms. O 19, one of only two submarines in her class of the Koninklijke Marine (Royal Navy).  Please forgive me for making this introduction very personal because she was part of my life and therefore holds a very special interest for me.  My father, Opperschipper (Adjudant) Petrus W. van Warmerdam, was with her from about one year before her launch September 22, 1938 till his promotion to Opperschipper in January 1941.   
At the time he was placed on the build he had the rank of Schipper, with the added function of Quality Control and Assurance Inspector and liaison between the Navy and the ship builder Wilton-Fijenoord in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. 
 
His second tour of tropical duty started right after his marriage to my mother in October 7, 1931, and they started a family while in Surabaya, the former Dutch East Indies.  My sister and I were born there, November 14, 1932 and April 15, 1934.  When his second six-year tour of tropical duty ended in the end of 1937 he had to return to the Netherlands.  Of course his family, my mother, sister and I, followed shortly after on the passenger liner M. S. Christiaan Huygens of the Stoomvaart Maatschappij Nederland, Amsterdam. 
 
When we arrived in the Netherlands we first stayed in Den Helder, the Royal Navy Base, but after hearing about the new class of submarines being build he immediately requested to be placed on them.  Because of his expert technical knowledge of submarines the Royal Navy agreed and he and his family moved to Vlaardingen Ambacht, Narcisplein 3 to be exact, a small town near Schiedam, in March of 1938.  Sjors and Anja know this area quite well.
 
The shipyard was located in Schiedam, the Netherlands and the boat he was assigned to happened to be the furthest along of the two in that class, mine laying submarines. 
 
The original design concept for a mine lying submarine was completed in December, 1934 and assigned numbers O 17 and O 18. (Reference pictures can be found in the DRAWINGS section)   However, the design was altered to a more squarish form amidships for better loading and discharging of the mines by engineer G. de Rooy.  (Reference pictures can be found in the DRAWINGS section)  Rumors have it that it is based on the design of the Polish submarine Orzel but cannot be confirmed.  The Orzel was also a mine-laying sub but I believe that the mine tubes were carried inside the main hull and not on the side as the O 19 class subs.  
 
The O 19 and O 20 were also the first subs equipped with “getrimd diesel system ,” where the boat could run on diesel power while submerged to charge the batteries and for ventilation.   This is commonly known as “Snorts,” or “Snorkels.”    Navigation was done via the navigation periscope.
 
The KM (short for Royal Navy in Dutch) used to classify submarines for domestic waters with O and those for the colonies with K (K stands for “Koloniën ” which means colonies).  They were originally assigned the numbers K XIX and K XX, which was changed to O 19 and O 20 sometime during their fabrication.  All subsequence submarines received the O designation till the end of WW II.  After the war all subs received names instead of numbers.
 
The O 19 was launched September 22, 1938 with my father onboard of course   and officially commissioned on July 3, 1939, my mother, sister and I were present for that event.  I was standing on extreme left of the photo, hidden behind the bow flag, next to my mother.  The ensuing trial runs were successfully conducted near de Scandinavian coast and the fiords where proof diving could be done more successfully.  Although the boat was designed for a maximum depth of 100 meters these proof dives were limited to 60 meters.
 
Special tests were to be conducted on the voyage to the Netherland’s East Indies to measure geological differences in the Earth’s crust when sailing over the continuation of a mountain range underwater as well as wave action while submerged.  She and her crew arrived safely and without any technical difficulties at the Navy Base in Soerabaja (old Dutch spelling) in September 1939.
 
My mother, sister and I followed in December of 1939 on the passenger liner M. S. “Johan van Oldenbarnevelt,” of the Stoomvaart Maatschappy Nederland.   Both the Christiaan Huygens and JVO served as troop transports during WW II.
 
On January 1, 1941, my father was promoted to Opperschipper (Adjudant) and had to be transferred to a surface ship of the KM, which was the light cruiser Hr. Ms. Java.   The reason for the transfer was dat that rank was not maintained on submarines.  That was the second time in my short life that I saw my father shed a tear.  He loved the submarine service that particular boat and the crew.   As all submariners know these small crews on the subs become like a family.  He hated the Java, that “old rust bucket,” as he called it and he was subsequently killed in action on that ship during the “Battle of the Java Sea,” 5 minutes before midnight on February 27, 1942.  A long-range Japanese torpedo hit the Java in the rear port side just where his battle station is.  Fortunately he never knew what hit him when the powder room exploded and 20 meters of that part of the ship just evaporated.
I have photographs of the wrecked stern section that lies 70 meters down on the sea floor and now have closure and sort of a “grave marker.”
 
Our lives changed dramatically shortly afterward when the Japanese successfully invaded the Dutch controlled Indonesian islands and made us “guests of the Emperor” of Japan, i.e. prisoners of war, and placed us into concentration camps for the duration of the war.  Yes, even women, and children, all non military people were classified as combatants and came under military rule and in charge of the Kempeitai.
 
Fellow ship model builders, something you may not know but the Japanese High Command gave orders in the beginning of 1945 to exterminate all POWs in September of 1945.  As terrible as the two atom bombs that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki are, it saved millions of lives and is the reason I am alive today with two beautiful daughters and a grandson.  My wife too was a “guest of the Emperor” in a concentration camp in Semarang, Java.  It is also giving me the great pleasure counting all of you as my friends.
 
The O 19 served with distinction during the entire war and I am sure that my father would be proud of her and the crew.
 
Well then, this model is in memory of my father and I dedicate it to him and the crew he loved.  The boat is still with us today, albeit as a wreck on Ladd Reef in the South China Sea (19.93 Lat, 174.57 Long).  Due to a navigational error she ran right smack in the middle of that reef at low tide.  And yes, the crew survived and was rescued by the USS sub “ Cod,” which is moored permanently in Cleveland, Ohio, as a museum.   There are some interesting films on “YouTube” of the rescue 
 
My model will be at a scale of 1:50 which translates to 1.6 meter and only shows the exterior of the boat, except for the side-launch torpedo tube assembly.  This unit is mounted outside the main pressure hull, between the hull and the deck structure forward of the deck gun location. 
It will be plank on bulkhead, using poplar wood for the majority of the build.  For the deck structure I may use 1/32 inch plywood over a frame of poplar, covered with epoxy resin.  The simulated hull plating will be 150 lb hot pressed watercolor paper over 1.5 mm poplar planking and epoxy resin.   Other materials will be brass rod, brass and copper wire, plastics, cardboard material and whatever comes to mind to achieve the desired effect.
I’ll be using red Titebond glue, Elmer’s Carpenter’s WoodGlue Max, which is an interior/exterior glue and waterproof.  Of course CA will also be used when appropriate.
 
I am still doing research on the original paint scheme at the time of the commissioning but that point is still in the future.
 
The drawing section is to follow.
 
Cheers, 

HMS Terror, 1845, Inboard profile (as Fitted)
 
My plans from the 1845 inboard profile of HMS Terror incorporate all of the information presented in my previous post (as well as information to be presented in subsequent posts). It represents nearly a year of research, and no doubt contains unknown errors. Despite the fact that my model won’t show any detail between decks (I intend to build a plank on bulkhead model), I felt the inboard profile would be incomplete without these details.
 

Please note: This plan has been updated - please consult my later posts.
 
 
As always, for better images please see my blog!