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Yes they are........Good work. Rob
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Spent a little time in the shop and I painted and began to weather the hull.
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I misspoke......You are correct..there are 5 ports per side and the mooring hawsers as well. I was reviewing many images when I made that delusional statement. Rob
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Wonderful job....... Rob
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Yes...IF planking is thick enough to accommodate such sanding....that method can bee the easiest and fastest method. I'm all about that....... Rob
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As I refine my model....I want to reiterate, that I am modeling Glory after her 1872 conversions...more precisely, based on her 1877 image of her in San Francisco. Several key notes: She was at the height of her glamor..... She is sporting her major overhauls items such as the new *boy* cabin and the chicken house. both items that rested over her existing main hatches, while she was under way. She enjoyed greater stability with the addition of several more backstays added beyond her existing fore and main channels. A guy boom was also added on her bowsprit to stabilize her head rigging. I won't even get into the rigging and masting changes at this time. All of these significant changes were a direct result of an evolutionary process that happens when real world experience demands the changes for betterment and ease. Structural and or esthetical. It is key to be diligent in replicating the changes in the era or time one wishes to model their vessel. I have seen far to many examples of models that interchange details of a vessel, not paying attention that one detail cannot be modeled, when that detail did not exist at the time of another specific detail. I ran into that plenty of times when researching the Great Republic. The Glory of the Seas had a varied long history and numerous mods to her structures. She has to be accurate according to the time you want to model her. Rob the Gr
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Vlad...that is a unique method to create the effect. Great job. I have a feeling your hull will be magnificent. Greater detail can be incorporated in your scale. Rob
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As usual more sanding and filling will follow.....before I add the channels, and chain plates, and the forecastle spray plate/trim. Rob
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Then a bit of work on the starboard naval hood and scroll work below. I through on a bit of black to get the feel of her.. Enjoy.
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Well I spent a bit of time in the shop today and I finished up the addition of the planksheer trim and that of the main rail trim Rob
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The chain plates(Iron bars) pass through the upper and lower channel and afix to the hull. I understand what you are addressing now. Yes the images of her at her refit dock, clearly show the muntz plates and the felt removed. I guess, they assumed she would only give them several years anyway...10 or so . She was doomed from the beginning of her conversion. It is now left to us....the adventurous model shipwright to resurrect her for posterity sake. I'm so thankful for the trove of fine quality images of her that Mike has graciously provided us. There are several other models of her floating around...but they all have her hull incorrectly replicated. Rigging is one thing...HOWES double topsails was well in practice and easily modeled...BUT her HULL is all together another matter...THAT is who she is. Note the stem errors in this contemporary model. Rob
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I had originally thought you were talking about the chain plates...but I wanted for more clarity. The chain plates which extend down from the lower channel that is bolted to the waterway are themselves bolted to the hull via prevented plates. I'm sure the iron bolts used, pass through significant frames...such as the hull frames or a strake from of some kind.
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Having this example we can see in this drawing the area in question. the item you are talking about is most likely the second deck area
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Rich could you be more specific concerning these shrouds you speak of. Not quite sure I understand your usage of the work in this application. Also did you notice in this image of her stern the bumpkins are removed. I don't see them...since their function is no longer needed. Rob
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The sheer line mentioned may indeed be a structural anomoly, representative of the second internal deck....where as the planksheer is representative of the main deck or more accurately the waterway. I wasn't being critical of your acute observation of my lack of representation of said structure. I was being critical of my own oversight. I wish to make a disclaimer now: I will, at times, omit or even *fudge*(accidently or intentionally) on certain details of this build. Either by way of keeping it simple (due to scale) , by sheer ignorance on my part or by blatant laziness, which may either be, because I wish not to redo an error or my own personal interpretation leads me in that direction. I've made it very clear, on many occasions....that I'm generally a lazy modeler...prone to stray from the pure path, apt to disguise poor workmanship, and tend to rely upon copious amounts of paint and gimicry to hide those faults. Thanks for allowing me the vent space. Hope it doesn't exacerbate my transparency. Rob
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Indeed, I noticed the anomaly some time ago myself, but I gathered it was a structural issue and not a signature of the shipwright. Personally I wasn’t sure it was worth trying to replicate in this scale. I’m sorry I strayed from replicating this unique feature. I suppose our year of research has finally been breached by my lazy oversight. I hope Vladimir will include this detail on his model. Good eye.
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Point it out Rich on the real vessel
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Rich...I wanted to paint the waterways the blue....but the grey(pearl) I selected for the gunwale was far too grey.....so I had to repaint the entirety. And I wanted the grey to slightly *bleed* through the white to give the allusion of a slightly blued pearl color. I took your advice knowing it was the right choice. I think the final result is acceptable. See them on the port trim image Rob
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Smarty.....I know about those moldings and I am adding them as well. If you review the port side, you will see them present. I just didn't add them to the starboard side yet (Still working it)....One thing at a time bro..... I had a deep suspicion that you might catch that and again I suspected it might be assumed I *forgot* the extra trim. I mostly appreciate your forbearance and keen eye to be able to point out the inconsistency...and the apparent oversight You 're keeping me honest and true to Glory. Rob
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Thanks Vlad. It really is a compromise. I'm still not completely satisfied and will probably(before it's all said and done) do more refinement work on the stern. Comparative images can be very tricky. It is nearly impossible to replicate fully. Since angulation of subject...location and latitude of photographer is never the same. And the greatest issue is the accuracy of the subject matter. I took a comparative image of my first Glory...and though it was some what representative of the original photo...it lacked in every way. I hope as I approach greater completion of this new Glory, that further comparison images will be rendered as far more convincing. Thanks again for your continual support and encouragement. Rob
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I did the rail work at the same time as the painting but one had to be before the other....I guess. Next images are of the planksheer and rail molding being added. I also worked on touching up small blemishes in the hull on both sides. Some of the images are taken to mimic some of the images of Glory on the beach and such. Next thing will be to add the starboard naval hood and its trim. Enjoy the images. Rob
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I then focused on finishing up the stern topgallant rail.
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