Waitoa
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Hi Finally finished the first false deck planking. Big thanks to Ulises Victoria who posted a guide on the way to get the different patterns. I did lose the order a few times but very little will be seen so thinking of this as a training run. One day I will get the courage to do trenails but think this scale is a bit too small. I used Danish oil to seal based on advice from this forum and really happy with the result. In the top deck I may try to improve my planking by having them run into a margin plank (not sure if that is the right term). Did not do it this time around as you can see it is pretty rough at the edges. Carved away the false deck that was over hanging so I could get a nice smooth line on which to lay the outer planking. Started already on the hatches as you can see as need to do some detail things done to motivate me for the first planking which usually causes me the most challenge.
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Hi Bindy Sixth one along from the bow. The curve flares out as it gets to the first false deck and just looks a bit weird. I think I may have also been staring at it a bit too long so may do the hatches on this deck before attempting the planking. Looking forward to seeing how you get on and good luck with your build. Waitoa
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Hi Harvey Thanks for your comments, you are doing well to remember half of the time. I think I have a gold fish memory now what was I commenting on .......
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Hi Bindy Thanks for the kind words. I really enjoy the hobby but tend to get demotivated when I hit a set back so using this log as a way to spur me on. Have trimmed back the over hang, looks a bit rough and needs a good sand. On yours does bulkhead 6 look a bit too wide? Mine seems a bit to prominent so sanding back a bit so the planks flow ok. Hi Ross Thanks for the feedback. I like the Master cutter as I am really bad at cutting anything straight. It is good for deck planks but for thicker planks such as those for the first planking can see that you really need a bit of force. Waitoa
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Hi Thought it was time for another update. While the other logs inspire us to push our skills and techniques further I am guessing mine may be more along the lines of what to avoid. Near completion of the first false deck and as the photo below shows that there is a significant overhang. I first thought I was paying for my bash it with a hammer approach but the overhang is pretty even on each side. I will trim it back but as it is a Mamoli model the gun ports are metal frames that slot into the false deck through a series of notches and most of these will be lost. I have attached a photo to show how these are meant to work but when I get to this stage I think I will try to do something different as it looks like these would stand proud to the outer planking and spoil the whole look. Any suggested alternatives would be greatly received.
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Looks really good. Every time I look at your log I get a whole range of new ideas that I would like to incorporate into mine.
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Think I have all of them but counting has never been my strong point so better get my wife to check
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Hi Working from home and as part of my work avoidance strategy decided to post an update. I have treated myself to a new toy in the form of an Amati Master Cut. Which is basically a guillotine. This explains the framing around the hatches as although I am sure not historically correct it looks pretty .....
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Hi At the request of my son I am going to try to crew the HMS Surprise I am building. Had locating anything but found a company that does 20 mm war gaming naval Napoleonics. At 20 mm that should roughly be around 1/87. Not convinced that the look quite right for the size of the build but the figures themselves are pretty well made and have posted some. Web site http://newlinedesigns.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=410_415_428
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Hi David Hope you don't mind one more viewer. Building the Mamoli kit with some bashing to get the look and feel a bit closer to the Lavery book. You have done an amazing job so far and look forward to more updates.
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Hi I am building the Mamoli HMS Surprise and have started a build log. From what I understand it is their earlier model La Glorie with a few changes so it is not that close to the historical Surprise or that in the movie. That being said so far it has been fun to build. I think for the price and size it is a good buy and from some of the photos that are on the Web you can get an excellent result. The general quality of the materials look good and the plans are pretty comprehensive. They are hard to follow in some parts so if you do go ahead it pays to read them three to four times before cutting things as I have made one or two mistakes already that I could have avoided. Hope that this is helpful as long as you get enjoyment out of the build that for me is the main thing. James
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Hi I built the Del Prado Victory awhile ago which used a similar cannon bracket. I had a lot of challenges with these so understand some of the fun you are having. To ensure that these were in line and laying flat against the frame I laid temporary planks just below the cannon brackets and used this as a guide. When doing the actual planking I planked over the whole cannon bracket and made sure that a lot of glue was spread around the outside of the bracket. Once the planking was complete I then cut the planking over the cannon bracket away exposing the metal bracket ready for painting. Do not know if this helps. James
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Hi Thanks for taking the time to post this and inspire amateurs like myself. Will try to borrow a number of the ideas that you have put into your build but doubt I will get to your standard. James
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Hi Thanks for all the replies, agree bashing things usually results in more work but I never learn....... I have a habit of glueing myself to things as well which provides a great deal of mirth in my household. Bindy my deck is not totally flat, slight curve which I am guessing is meant to be the camber and most likely why it was so much fun to fit. I flattened this out a bit as was so pronounced that it looked pretty silly. Just adding some balsa fillers as I want to make the bow less pointed along the lines of the other kits and books I have seen.
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Please see photos bringing the build up to date. The figures are Newline minatures and at 20 mm I think they are around the right scale for the ship but not convinced that the cannon barrels are right for 9 pounders as think they should be thicker and longer. Any advice would be welcome. Also I have cut three hatch holes into the frame. Two will have ladders with sliding hatches and a false deck at the bottom. The middle one will have a hatch covering it. In looking around I think that middle hatch should have been a little further forward but I got a bit confused on which line I was cutting too. Opps! I think the framing is kind of in line and been using the deck template to try to make sure. The lower deck got stuck while dry fitting it so had to knock a few nails while it was being glued as I could not get it off again.
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Hi After years of reading the books decided to take the plunge and build the ship that features so heavily. I chose the Mamoli kit in the knowledge that it does not bear much resemblance to the real Surprise or those that appeared in the movie or books. My choice was driven partially due to the size and my little boy has insisted that I add a crew. I will make some modifications to this model so it is closer to how I imagined the Surprise to look which has been coloured by the movie and some of the other kits out there. I am very slow in building but am using this log as a motivation to keep going. Will try to post some photos later on once I figure out how to do so. Just posted the normal unboxing photos as an experiment.
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