Koopyetz

On 2/23/2024 at 5:54 PM, rlb said:

Thanks so much Allan.  

 

Incremental progress.   I'm now trying to put together the transoms and fashion pieces.  So far I've had to cut new transom pieces.  I had shortened them too much when fitting them to the sternpost earlier.  I cut a mortice in the fashion timbers, and tenons on the first transom, and here I have the lowest transom dry fit with the two aft fashion timbers resting in place--

 

 

The correct angle of the fashion timbers is verified with the squares--

 

I milled and chiseled out the next couple mortices in the timbers--

 

And am starting to fit the second transom--

 

This is all very slow going.   I've had to recut the third transom also.  It has a complex shape that needs to match the round up of the deck that it supports.  Though none of these pieces (transoms and fashion timbers) have been faired at all, that third transom needs a lot of shaping to get it to transition from the slot on the sternpost down to the mortices on the fashion timbers, which should be about five scale inches down.   All this seems to be going okay so far (apart from having to re-cut all the previously done transoms); hopefully I won't discover some egregious error that makes me start over, as with the bow timbers.

 

Ron

 

 

 

When I see you conquering complex connections like this I’m reminded that your field of endeavour has given you the ability to visualize many dimensions all at once.

On 3/12/2023 at 11:12 AM, rlb said:

Thanks everyone for the comments, likes, etc.!

 

I adjusted about a quarter of the frames which were slightly out of alignment, ungluing and regluing them.  Those starboard hawse timbers that gave me so much trouble needed to be disassembled and adjusted as well.  I'm using my bottle of isopropyl alcohol quite a bit, but hopefully now everything is good to go.  

 

Fairing the interior has begun--

 

I'm also starting to cut out the aft cant frames, with the ongoing puzzle of laying out frame pieces as efficiently as I can manage--

 

Finally for today, a near eye-level view, with a scale figure.  He's holding a modern-day 2x4 to help give some idea of the size of the massive timbers that went into these ships--

 

Ron 

Great  elevation.I like this photo with the scale figure. Really helps give one a sense of size . 

She is shaping up nicely. 

Glad to see you back. There isn't any part of this model  beyond your ability. 

Magnificent.

So how do you move her after she's done. Flood the room and sail her outside?

Ron

thank you for the update. Very clean and precise work.I hope having a model of this magnitude to construct will give you many hours of enjoyment. Your hands will never be bored.

regards

Rick

I was looking for build log for Halifax and found this thread. Your  thread has inspired me to make this kit my next build.

Top notch craftsmanship.

Regards

Rick

Thank you both for your help.

Working on attaching wale using titebond II. Ive noticed that at the stem / ajoining timber connection the wale pops loose.

The remaining wale has stayed in place. The wale is prepared for this attachment by being  boiled and shaped on a board with pins to hold it until it dries.

The wood for the wale is walnut. I ve used this technique and type of glue for all wood needing to be shaped to follow hull line.

Is there another glue suggestion someone could please recommend at this location.

Thank you

Rick

Ron

This is a thank you for this build log. I’m building my own Oneida and have relied on 

your log to assist me. 

Greatly appreciated.

Ron

First rate work!

Nice carving of the Captain too.

13 hours ago, druxey said:

Problem fixed!

 

 

Or you could simply have cropped the image yourself!

Don't throw the tree away, Ron might need it for his build.

Ron

I’m curious how many pieces will make up a full frame.

thanks

Rick

Hello Ron

Glad to see you engaged with a new build. Look forward to her progress.

Regards

Your answers have been very helpful and informative. 

Thank you both for your help.

Hello

I'm going to make a second wood part from extra wood in kit . I have a paper template that I want to attach to wood I'm going to shape.

What type of glue do you recommend.

Will all purpose white glue be ok with cleanup of wood after or would you recommend another.

Thank you

Hello Ron

Thank you for providing the sandpaper grit information. It helped.

Regards

Rick

Ron

I hope this post finds you well. I'm find some frames a bit fat for keel. Any thoughts to various grit sandpaper to reduce thickness.

Thank you

Rick

Though you don't see yourself as a machinist you are a critical thinker who can solve a problem . As you have others you are in awe of , I imagine others in awe of your accomplishment with this model. 

Your work is amazing. All from the keel up.

Marslav

There are many creative individuals on this forum but among them are those  that exist at the highest level of ability and craftsmanship. 

Amazing.

Thank you for your thread on this kit. I'm working on my own ECB and will be referring to your build to help me along. 

Regards and healthy 2021

Rick

5 hours ago, VTHokiEE said:

I’ve been contemplating something similar (exposed frames) for the future and the CAF Le Coureur is one of the few kits that I’m aware of that is POF and would allow for exposed frames.

An alternative could be scratch building a section to expose frames in that area maybe?

Thank you for the suggestion. I’ll research the kit.

I'm  wondering about my next kit after Emma C. Berry. 

I find the laser cut parts enjoyable to work with . I appreciate especially the frames precut in this way .

Im find that the lines of the hull with potential for exposing the frames to be what I see in my next kit .  

Something at a bit larger scale than the Emma.  Something with single deck . Also , the wood provided in Emma ( basswood ) is a bit delicate to work with 

so would like to work with a harder species of wood.

Thank you

Rick

For LA Don:

Sir;

 

Having done a number of “plank-on-frame” pieces I have developed a couple of “tips” for builders.

 

The first problem that can emerge is a bowed keel (piece #1). This was the case with part #1 of Sanson.

My solution is to align two or four (or maybe more) “filets” on either side of where the keel assembly will meet the deck to position the keel along the centerline of the deck;

one on each side of course .Pieces  for these little fillets can be taken from any of the "right angles" of the parts sheets;There are plenty of those.

The second problem I have previously had with “plank-on-frame” models is that sometimes the frames slip out of a 90 degree relationship with the keel.

 I have cemented some small (scrap) pieces of “1/4 round” on the the keel and each frame to hold the 90 degree positioning; (It make me feel better anyway). 

 

I will try to attach a photo of a sample section of the hull (keel and frame assembly).

 

Second item (maybe a note to builders): On my current Sanson, I would perform step #11 before starting on step #4.  It may preclude any damage to “upper-works” and deck during what can be some rough handling  during procedure 11.

 

I'm going to try and attach a photo.

 

file:///Users/HuBREPLOGLE/Desktop/Sanson%20filet.jpg

 

Opps !    Sez this file is too big to upload.

I can attach it to an email if you like......get to me at rj44444@comcast.net

 

Hugh

Sanson filet

 

Question for Koopyetz..............are you photos ".jpg: files ?

Hugh

Yes, they are JPG files.

Rick