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  1. iMustBeCrazy
    I did understand what you wanted but I don't think you are going to find anything. I hope somebody will prove me wrong. In all the cutter plans I have, the structure on the Grace is unique. The Watchfull (ZAZ6466) and the Starling (ZAZ6479) have rectangular structures doing the same job but these are only shown on the deck plans so there is no height information. The two models below have structures doing the same job but are very different.
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    Something like this maybe?
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    I would assume that's it's primary purpose, but it seems overly large. If it was my ship that extra space would be used for something even if only for storing buckets.
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    My guess is a wooden enclosure, covered aft of the rudder. Probably used for storage simply because it could be.
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    No problem, it gave me something different to do. Unfortunately it only took about 10 seconds.
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    Steven, I think this is as far as I can push it, hope it helps:
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    There is a PDF copy of the whole (untranslated) manuscript at https://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/blbhs/content/titleinfo/7061 (click on PDF) which can be greatly enlarged in a PDF reader (page 108). Edit: file size 128MB
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    Sounds like me trying to decipher my great great great uncle's journal of his voyage from Gravesend to Adelaide in 1853. April 18th The weather now very calm, had the awning up and established a ???? society for the ???? of bad language, G L ??????? secretary. ???? ???? for a week in succession every time one who said a bad word was fined 1/4d which the secretary collected & paid to me every Sunday afternoon, this has proved an admirable affair. April 30th ???? the trade winds, crossed the Tropic of Cancer. April 23rd Saw Cape de Verde Islands, at least two of them, vis ???? and Brava. April 24th ???? all day, one of the forward passengers shot a duck but could not get it, saw three flying fish. Back on topic, I think I've cleaned it up some.
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    Yay, I get to say "No worries mate". Careful with that. If a different scale is used it is usually specified, but not always. Another thing, no way is that boat on page 35 'about 21 feet', with only 3 thwarts it's most likely 16, maybe 18.
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    Well done!
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    Originally Bligh was going to be sent 'ashore' in the 'small cutter' with two or three others but it was 'wormed' or 'stove in' and couldn't be kept afloat (what sort of ship was Bligh running?). So then the large cutter was to be used but that was changed to the Launch. So all three boats were aboard for the voyage. The large cutter and the launch seem to have been stowed with all thwarts removed and the 'knees and bolts' kept in the carpenters and carpenters mates chests. This comes from the trial transcripts at https://www.famous-trials.com/bounty/399-transcript Bligh didn't say much about the launch in his log except 'In the afternoon I got fitted a pair of shrouds for each mast and contrived a canvass weather cloth round the boat, and raised the quarters about nine inches, by nailing on the seats of the stern sheets, which proved of great benefit to us.' which may imply that no shrouds were normally fitted (therefore no deadeyes) and with the short masts that may be true.
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    G'day vaddoc, My first visit to your build. These Admiralty drawings certainly aren't engineering drawings are they? For the davit I think it goes something like this (the text says Davit 'something', I'm guessing socket):
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    Just tripped over this newspaper clipping.
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    G'day Lucien, good job, you've left me for dead. I keep getting stuck on making it right and therefore not making it at all since there is no actual information of what right is. I've come to the conclusion that this model is based on the replica 'Child of Bounty' built for the documentary 'The Voyage of Bounty's Child (1984)' even though the manual suggests it's based on the drawing on page 3. And your information on the blackening solution is priceless.
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    I think you're going to need thicker than 1mm. This is for a BR1 engined Camel and (if I'm right) you would need 218.5 ÷ 16 ÷ 8 giving 1.7mm for this prop. Yours wouldn't be far off that.
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    No problem, when you haul the flag up one side of the line (the one you pulled on) will be under tension. If the side under tension presses on the sail it will deform the sail or chafe or both. In the Mermaid example, if you hauled the flag up the starboard side of the sail the line to port would be the line under tension but it would be clear of the sail. However if you tacked the sail would then press against it. Meanwhile, my diagram only shows that when the boom is swung out the point where the line is tied off is still accessible from the deck. If as I suggested above, it was tied off above the mainsheet you would have to crawl out the boom to reach it.
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    Lightbulb moment. As far out as can still be reached from the deck.
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    I agree, flag halyard. On the Harriet, tied off at the boom as in your Gunboat and in use. However, the flag would have to come down and go back up each time you tacked. On the Gunboat, if they took it to above the mainsheet that could be avoided.
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    Yeah, just skimmed 'Narrative of a Survey Volume 1'. He mostly just refers to 'the boat', sometimes 'the whale boat' or 'the jolly-boat' and once 'the small whale boat' (which implies two sizes). When he refers to 'the cutter' he is talking about the Mermaid. One of the boats was lost while being towed and a new one built from the spare frames. I doubt it, on length alone the three big boats could be Launches, Cutters, Yawls, Gigs, Life boats or Wherries but a breadth of around 5 feet would rule out all of those except Wherries. And King's sketches seem to be double ended. Given King's remarks, go with Whale boats. Who does?
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    I assume you mean me, I've been called a lot of names before but that's a first Not they, that was written by the man himself. It seems that boat naming conventions can be a bit loose. He gives 1st cutter, 2nd cutter, Jolly (or is it Joley) and cutter in frames. So you have to build four then take one apart.
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    Ok, this should nail it down for you: From http://digital.sl.nsw.gov.au/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=FL1032664&embedded=true&toolbar=false
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    Relative size:
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    Chris, what I think is mostly guesses, same as everybody else. Based on the painting, I wouldn't go over 12' for the Jolly boat and I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually 10' but in CAD I get about 10' 10". Cradle of some sorts certainly but perhaps wedges. Those boats must have been securely lashed down. Hard to do on a flat surface without crushing them. The last drawing is supposedly to scale, measuring the whaleboat in CAD I get 20' 6" but there must be a margin for error.
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    G'day Chris, Working from what's available: Jolly boat on davits. Boat in water approx 11 feet. Whaleboat location and length (approx 20' 6") Scales are a bit wishy washy so your 20' whaleboats should be fine.
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    I tracked down the Brighton gun, at Brighton Beach Gardens near the end of South Rd. So, where are the other 15? Perhaps used as moorings at Williamstown.

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