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The build starts with a temporary base, the instruction points out not to glue the keel to the temporary base. Looking through the instructions, you eventually cut the hull from frame tabs glued to the temporary base. I applied stain to the 2x5 mm stock to get uneven coloring before I cut and glue the floor pieces to bottom of the hull. The last floor plank on each side needs to be trimmed to fit; I needed a 3mm wide piece so I set my plane to 3mm and planed the 2x5 mm planks to 2x3 mm (it is nice to have the right tool for the job). I’ve noticed in other logs that some create the look of a structure on first frame. I plan on emulating what md1400cs did in his build log. I have some walnut veneer and a hobby CNC machine so I scanned a frame piece to start the process to create the structure pieces. (it will be a side project to practice working with my CNC machine). I wonder if the structure detail will be seen when the hull is completed.
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I decided to build the OcCre Santisima Trinidad Section kit for my fourth build. I think it is an interesting subject (I’ve wondered what was beneath decks). It will give me experience with miniatures and give me an introduction to sail rigging. I looked through other build logs to get familiar with the build and see how others personalize things. It looks like the kit has changed over the years. The kit includes a variety of wood in 400 mm and 600 mm lengths, laser cut parts, a container with metal parts and wood miniatures, a full-scale drawing of the mast and rigging, useful pictures, a parts list, and minimal instructions. The pictures show what to build with part list callouts for each step. The instructions provide basic information and some useful tips. I plan on making some pieces to go with the supplied miniatures.
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I used scrap wood to build a display case for my Mississippi Riverboat because I haven't built a case before and I wanted try a design. it will replace the dry-cleaning bag covering my model, plus I’ll gain the shelf space for my next ship build. I cut .75 inch plywood to 7 x 27 inch panels, one for the base and one for the top. I cut a 0.25 x0.25 inch dado in the four edges on one side of the base and top. I attached .25. ix.75 inch pine strips to the plywood making a.25 inch slot for the polycarbonate panels. I cut 0.093 inch polycarbonate for the clear panels. I cut (4) .25 x .75 x 13 inch and (4) .25 x .5 x 13 pieces to make stanchions to hide the seams of the clear panels; the two sizes create a post with equal sides. (I have a cnc router and cut the pieces with a quarter inch shallow curve on one side). To disguise the plywood and pine I painted the wood with a variety of stains. I have a lot of small, partially used cans of stain to use. After five coats of four different shades of stain I ended up with a mud color - I added red mahogany and it looks OK. I used the slots in the base to help align the clear polycarbonate panels for gluing. Unfortunately, I lost control of the panels (more than once) while I was gluing them with CA glue and smeared several places. The design works and it is better than a dry-cleaning bag.
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When I started here I read the Cautionary Tale thread and decided to not to get the kit I wanted to try, I'm glad I went with a smaller kit (CrisCraft speedboat). I found out that I wanted to learn more about planking so I built the half hull planking kit, it is an instructional kit just not a complete ship (I learned a lot, mounted it to a board, and use it to hold rages for applying finishes).
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Are there better tools for drilling tiny holes?
Cleat replied to Dan Poirier's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
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I have a Vanda Lay AcraMill with the drill press accessory. It has an X-axis adjustment that I used on my riverboat to drill a bunch of holes the same distance apart. I realized I no longer need the X-axis accessory; my hobby CNC machine can do the same thing. I bought the Micro Lathe accessory to repurpose the AcraMill and it works. I can switch it back to the drill press configuration with a few screws. It is a versatile tool. The Vanda Lay is designed to hold a smaller Dremel tool than what I have, I got stiffer springs for the drill press configuration to handle the weight of the Dremel 3000. I like the Vanda Lay because it can hold a Dremel tool which lets me use both hands with the material I’m working with. I made several drill press tables, I used the one with hold downs as a jig to assemble railings for my riverboat. The drill press configuration picture shows it with a burnishing bit which I use to burnish the edges of leather projects.
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I looked at the dust on my first boat kit (dust collector) and decided to look into cutting plexiglass, I'll have to get some and try cutting it. I'll be using a dry cleaning bag to cover my riverboat until my garage becomes warm enough to see how plexiglass works. I'm checking out build logs for the Bluenose kit (or something similar) and cross-section kits for my next project.
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A couple favorite tools included Rockler’s silicone micro glue applicators and the Gluelooper CA glue applicator. I haven’t mastered tweezers yet but I got a lot of practice. I used Minwax Wipe-On Ploy on all of the wood, the number of coats depended on how much shine I wanted on the piece. I had built a small tools chest a few years ago (my best woodworking project). Here are a few more pictures:
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I am proud to finish my King of the Mississippi riverboat. A picture, a parts list, and minimal instruction required me to figure out how to do things I haven’t done before – problem solving is a good thing. I want to thank the others who made build logs and those who answered my questions in this log. I repeatedly referenced other build logs. I learned a lot and want to try another kit next fall. The build was a challenge for me, I enjoyed most of it but there was frustration (there was some a lot of swearing). When I built the spiral staircase, I knew I could overcome anything in the build. It felt good when I figured out how to complete a task (a few beers might have helped with the problem solving and feeling good). I’ll build a stand for it when my garage becomes available. Now I’m wondering how to deal with dust, the riverboat is moving into its dust collection era; I might look into a Plexiglass container but that isn’t a priority.
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I was not looking forward to the gangway rigging. I don’t know how to tie rigging knots; I’ve seen some fancy knots in various pictures on the forum but they are beyond my skill. I looked into one and it resembled a fishing knot but it was too difficult to tie on a small scale so I went with simple knots and CA glue to accomplish this task. I tied a simple overhand knot and tried to lasso the groves in a block but that was too hard. I placed thread in the grove on one side and applied thin CA glue. When the glue set, I tied an overhand knot on the other side and applied thin CA glue. I extended the two threads and applied CA glue at the ends of the two threads to make it easier to tie a knot later. I looped the thread around a mast and wrapped it around the thread between the block and mast and applied CA glue to hold it in place. I tied a half hitch to complete installation. I found pictures in Bob Fraser's log (thread #68) to be very helpful (mast pictures). I found it difficult to work the rigging while the mast and gangway moved around. Parts of the routing didn’t make sense; I wasn’t sure where some lines ended. Working with 0.15 mm rigging and sewing thread required a level of precision I lack. The gangway ended up much higher than it should, I had adjusted the lines to get the gangway to the proper height but between sorting out the spaghetti of lines and taking up slack it had moved. I was focused on getting the knots tied and didn’t notice the change. After installing the rigging, I have a better idea how it works. I determined which lines control the gangway height and I think I have enough line to fix it. The gangway chains are unequal (I had adjusted them once already) so I have more to do.
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I installed the lower deck railings; the small clothes pins were the right size. I held off on these to leave access to rigging tie downs. I had applied finish to the long walnut stock and cut it to length so I didn’t want to soak the railings to bend them; I have a wood burner with a disk tip that I used to bend the wood with heat only. I made 10 mm railing posts on the paddle wheel deck. I installed the beads on top of the posts like the others I had made. I installed a short pin in the bottom of the posts, marked the deck, and drilled slightly oversized holes for the pins (to give me a bit of adjustment). Gluing the posts pinned to the deck made a solid attachment (I wish I had done that for the posts on the top deck). I'm making progress. I see I need to reapply one of the white triangle supports. I had to use a couple deck columns for the diagonal stern columns because I ran out of material of the proper length (I made too many deck columns), I should have installed the diagonals before cutting material for the upper decks.
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I used a drop of CA glue on the end of the line and cut it at an angle to make a point (as suggested). That technique worked fine to get the line through the block. I used dark brown sewing thread instead of the wire. I tie fishing knots to lures all the time but trying to tie sewing thread is hard. I also had a hard time tying the cotton thread for the smoke stack lines, a slip knot doesn't work on that material when trying to take up slack. I got practice working with the block on the pennant mast but the bow rigging will be a challenge.
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Hindsight Tip Do the rigging before installing the railings on the top deck. I've never worked with rigging before so I put it off. I bumped several railings off the deck when installing the smoke stack lines. So now I'm repairing railings (some of them needed adjustments anyway).
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Thanks for the link. The thread showed me more about how the blocks work. I didn't know the rigging goes through the hole. I'm not able to thread the rigging through the hole, I need to get some sewing supplies to help me thread the rigging through the tiny hole (even after making the hole bigger). I also broke the wire trying to tighten a practice loop. I think some sewing thread could be used to attach the block to the mast.
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I've been trying to figure out how to attach the blocks to the masts. I noticed the block has a hole the size of the wire but I haven't figured out how to use the wire to attach the block to the mast and have room to thread rigging on the block. I also noticed that two blocks (item 207) have two holes in them and I don't know what the extra hole is for.
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How did you attach the buckles to the masts? It looks like the wire is used but I'm not sure how to attach the wire.
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I got the railings installed. The straight sections went pretty well but I struggled with the curved sections. I made a jig to assembly the straight sections and I eventually figured out a way to assemble the top & bottom wood parts with the metal potion; I prefer to work with railing assemblies rather than building them piece by piece on the deck. Several things did not line up very well at the front, some of my mistakes and compromises can be seen. Attaching the white border on the top deck was tricky. I used a shot glass to help form a piece of white border trim but the material would spring back holding a mild bend. I used two finders to hold a section in place and used a Glu Looper to apply thin CA glue to the seam, then spray the area with activator. The glue would set fairly quick (but not instantly). Hindsight Tip: I wish I left a bit of a lip when I glued the sapelli trim on the state room ceiling (I sanded mine flush with the deck), it would have helped hold the border trim in place.
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Ahh, I see how that works. I had been thinking of my experience with pinning the beads on top. I just finished the railings today but I'm sure I'll bump something before I'm done so I'll probably will get as chance to try it.
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Thanks, that is a good idea. I did that for the top of the posts to place the bead on top. I learned I couldn't center the hole with consistency and I think aligning a post pin, deck hole, and connect to the railing assembly might be too hard for my accuracy skill. But I think a hole in the post and the deck could create a pin when the glue cures (I'll try that the next time I knock one off).
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The company is Bridge City, this is a link to the plane: Adjustable Plane
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I played with the various curved railing pieces to find a way for the rear railings to work. I was wondering how to curve the brass railing pieces to match the wooden radius. My first attempt was the curved section on the forward short deck; I formed it to the wood piece, then bent the piece by hand to get it close to a fit (I wasn’t happy with the result). I used the railing jig I made and found it could help form the arch a little easier. I placed the curved wood railing with the straight metal piece in my jig; I pushed the straight metal piece to create an arc and used a piece of wood to help shape it. I used a Glue Looper to apply thin CA glue to each seem and sprayed the area with an activator to cure the connection. I added the second curved wood railing and glued it with the Glue Looper. I later added a short piece to the white railing to complete the assembly. One of the things I’m discovering is how light the wood glue bonds to the deck, my deck has many thin layers of finish making it a polished surface and it is only now that I realize I need to find a way to rough up the surface for a 3mm square post. I’ve knocked off many posts/rail assemblies via accidental touches (I swore each time).
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I played around with the curved pieces and found a combination that works for me. My kit included several curved pieces that aren’t called out in the manual. Item 234 is mostly straight with a little curve at one end. It looked like it might fit the forward end of the straight railings – and it does (I removed the railing I had installed). There are four pieces for two railing sections, I wish there were more for the same section in the lower deck. I’ll still have to figure out how to create longer brass railing sections (I painted white); I noticed the instructions don’t identify the curved brass railing section. The three bow brass railing sections will need to be created. For the stern I used the straight railings I removed from the bow and tested the fit with different curved sections. My custom stern railing doesn’t use any of the parts called out in the manual.
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When I scoped out the curved pieces at the front and rear decks, I discovered problems. The pieces that make the front railings are longer than the space available. You can see the last straight railing is too far forward which reduces the space for the curved pieces; it also cuts the corner a bit which probably caused the short space. Everything depended on where I aligned the first column on the main deck; I had cut out the second deck from the full scale drawing and laid it on the second deck to determine the column placement. I’m thinking I should shorten the forward straight railing to accommodate the curved pieces. I also noticed another problem with the length of the curved pieces, they are longer than the metal part of the railing. It looks like I’ll have to create a longer metal piece; I don’t know if glue will work and I’m wondering it solder might work. The rear of the deck also has a problem. The rear straight piece should be 45 mm but the metal railing in the kit is 35 mm (same problem as the front). I noticed other curved pieces (I don’t know what they are for) and laid them out to see how they might work but I need to figure out what they for (I can’t find item 192 in the manual).
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I have been working on the railings. I made more railing assemblies using my home-made jig. I installed the straight pieces. I discovered I need to determine how I want to modify things to finish the railings. I made all of the top deck railing posts. I drilled a .08 mm hole in one end of the posts and used thick CA glue to install a piece of solid electrical wire (20 AWG), then trimmed the length of the wire to fit in the bead. I quickly learned not to use tweezers on a small round piece when a bead took flight; I touched the trimmed wire in a puddle of thick CA glue and stabbed the hole in the bead with the wire and it sticks.
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