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AnobiumPunctatum reacted to yamsterman in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
WASHINGTON GALLEY PART 1
HI ALL
WOOD HAS FINALLY BEEN CUT.
STARTED WITH BASIC KEEL COMPONENTS.
MAIN KEEL CUT 3/16 WIDE BY 7/32 DEEP. FALSE KEEL 3/16 X 1/16. HOG 3/16 BY 3/32.
ALL CUT FROM SHEET MATERIAL ON THE BYRNES SAW.
I DECIDED TO DO THIS IN THREE SEPERATE PIECES AS IT WOULD BE EASIER TO PROFILE THE REBATE.
THE HOG(?) HAS PROVED TO BE QUITE A TASKING PIECE TO MAKE ACCURATELY. THE PIECES IN THE PHOTOS ARE THE FOURTH ATTEMPT!!!!
I ORIGINALLY ASSUMED THAT THE SPACE BETWEEN THE DOUBLE FRAMES,WHICH ARE 1FT THICK(SIDED) OR 1/4 INCH ON THE MODEL WOULD BE EQUAL TO 0NE FRAME THICKNESS OR 6INCHES IN REAL LIFE (1/8inch) ON THE MODEL.A QUICK MEASUREMENT LATE A NIGHT SEEMED TO CONFIRM THIS.
WRONG!WRONG!WRONG!............MEASURE TWICE OR EVEN THRICE.......CUT ONCE!
THE ACTUAL MEASUEMENT IS 9/16 ON AN INCH.
IN ORDER TO CUT THIS ACCURATELY I HAD TO DEVISE A JIG FOR THE MILLING MACHINE
( SEE PHOTOS)
BUILDING BOARD AND FRAME PLAN PREPARED AND ALMOST READY FOR USE.
A FEW JIGS HAVE ALSO BEEN MADE FOR HELP IN FRAME ALIGNMENT....BUT THESE MAY HAVE TO BE REDONE AS THEY MAY BE ON THE CLUNKY SIDE.
THATS ABOUT ALL FOR THE MOMENT.....BACK TO WORK WE GO
CHEERS....MICK
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AnobiumPunctatum reacted to Mirabell61 in SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse 1897 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line
Build log part 16
did a trial mock up today for for rounding the 19 mm high cabin wall corners. The doors are 15 mm resp. 14 mm high depending on position of mounting
Nils
doors with window frame, and doorknob are of brass
cut a profile bar for the corner- fitting of the cabin wall plates
easy to round and blend out
a good base for the plating....
gives a nice smooth corner connection
door and porthole fitted
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AnobiumPunctatum reacted to giampieroricci in L'Amarante 1749 by giampieroricci - FINISHED - 1:30 - French Corvette
A little progress:
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AnobiumPunctatum reacted to Dan Vadas in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
Goodoh George and Greg - thanks.
A small update - I had a Nameplate engraved over the weekend, and made a stand for it :
Danny
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AnobiumPunctatum reacted to Chuck in La Salamander 1752 kit
Its not a bootlegged kit per say because there is no kit of that ship. This is the only one. But what you have there is a Chinese kit where they ripped off Ancre. They even used the Ancre plans. You can see it on the box. I remember talking with those folks at Ancre and they did not give the rights to any of these Chinese companies to use their plans. They are not even sure of the quality of the kit or if its accurately made to follow the plans the stole. Its a shame. Ancre is NOT getting any compensation for their hard work or research either. Consider this....it would be like Model shipways or Bluejacket just ordering a set of plans from Ancre and decided "screw them" lets use these to make a kit without asking for their permission. Its no different than if another kit company decided to buy a set of plans for Cheerful and just start making kits.....without asking or paying and compensation.
Its certainly a NO-GO for ModelShipWorld. We wouldnt allow a build log of this kit.
Chuck
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AnobiumPunctatum reacted to druxey in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Christian: The old-timers used both methods to get the timberheads in the positions that they needed them. As master shipwright, you need to make those decisions based on what makes the most practical sense.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from Eddie in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Today it rained all day, so I had enough time to finish the design of the cant frames
The Bollard Timbers and Hawse Pieces are missing to complete the planning of framework.
The individual components and the frames I'll draw later during the build.
Next, the construction of the two-stage slipway is on the ToDo list, then I can lay down the keel for the model.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from Captain Poison in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Today it rained all day, so I had enough time to finish the design of the cant frames
The Bollard Timbers and Hawse Pieces are missing to complete the planning of framework.
The individual components and the frames I'll draw later during the build.
Next, the construction of the two-stage slipway is on the ToDo list, then I can lay down the keel for the model.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from Eddie in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
In the moment I am working on a corrected disposition of frames drawing for my sloop
The basis are
DOF of Cygnet (ZAZ4691) Dimensions given in "The Ship Builders Repository", 1788 (1) Dimensions given in Steel "The Element and Practice of Naval Architecture", 1805 (1) Antscherl TFFM, Volume 1
(1) The dimensions I took from Allan Yedlinsky "Scantlings of Royal Navy Ships 1719-1805". The original books are unfortunately to expansive for my hobby budget.
The different timbers for the keel and the knee of the head, I took from David's book. I only adapt these to the other proportions.
After a lot of measurements in the DOF of Cygnet and comparing with the given dimensions, I decided to follow Steel. I am really surprised how well the frames fit to the original drawing. If you compare the numbers of the sweep ports with the original drawing, yo see that there is one port missing, because it was not shown on the As built drawing.
In the moment I am drawing the cant frames, which is much easier as by my second project.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from KenW in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Welcome on bord, Antony
The completion of the hull of my control model in the region behind the last frames has attracted much longer than expected.
When planning the last phase of the construction I realized that the body plan of the original drawing and therefore my reconstruction at the top of the last two frames is too narrow. So back to the drawing board and the frames 19 and 20 newly constructed. The hull at frames 20 is now about 1 mm wider in the region of maximum breath than originally. With the help of several buttok lines and the new water lines I have also redesigned the transoms
I haven't add all changes on the test hull, so you can see in the pictures the not entirely harmonious course of the lines.
The first step of my little project -the reconstruction of the lines- is complete.
In between, I have asked myself several times whether the construction of the half-model was even necessary. After the problems in the reconstruction of the transoms and fashion pieces, that define the shape of the stern, have identified, the construction of the test model was more than worth. I am happy to have the mistakes now and not found during the construction of the POF model.
In the next few weeks I'll construct keel, frames and all other components that are needed to build the hull. In autumn I like to start the construction of the POF model. Until then, one last picture which shows the side view of the test hull.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from Eddie in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
This is the current stand of my reconstruction. As you see on the pictures I've need some putty after sanding. This has two reasons.
I've sanded to much on frame 20 The lines for the transoms have some smaller mistakes. During the last month I've redrwan the transoms. Also I've corrected a small mistake of the maximum breath in this area. In the moment I add the counter timbers to my drawing and complete the half model to check the revised design.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from Eddie in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Thanks Johann, druxey, Mike and Nils for your nice comments and all others for the Likes
Next I've installed all bulkheads until frame 20 and the filling pieces.
Then my favourite pastime - sanding
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from Eddie in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
With the build of my control model I started at the end of March.
The edges of all frames I've colored black. This will be later a great help by sandig the hull.
The glued surface of the cant frames is very small, so I've glued first plywood stripes on the center board.
To get the correct alignment the colored 5' marks on the frames and the center board are a great help.
First half of frame 0
Six frames have been installed.
At this time I've started to glue the filling pieces of polar plywood between the frames. I've used a chess board pattern to avoid the distortion of the frames.
Until the mid of April I've installed all frames and filling pieces from the center to the stem on the stem.
The next two pictures show the result of the work. It's looking very horrible
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from Eddie in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
To check the lines I started to build a half model. For the frames I use 3mm birch plywood, it's for a model in 1/32 perhaps a little small, but I've had a bigger batch at home. All space between the frames I fill with poplar plywood. It's easy to shape but stable enough for the purpose.
I glue the drawngs with rubber cement on the ply woord
With a sharp knife I mark every 5' line. The picture shows frame 0:
All bulkheades and the center are cutted out. The hull has a length of around 1m, which is not as big compared with the new 1/200 model kits of the WWII battle ships.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from Eddie in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Part 1 Reconstruction of the hull lines
David Antscherl wrote in his wonderful series about th Swan Class Sloop, that there are a lot of smaller differences between the ships of the class, for example the knee of the head of Fly.
As first decision for my new start I decided not to use the general lines, which David has published. I want to do my own reconstruction. The naval cutter was a first exercise for this project. In January I started with the reconstruction. At the end of February I had a first version of my body plan, which matchs the lines of the historical drawing very well.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from ggrieco in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Today it rained all day, so I had enough time to finish the design of the cant frames
The Bollard Timbers and Hawse Pieces are missing to complete the planning of framework.
The individual components and the frames I'll draw later during the build.
Next, the construction of the two-stage slipway is on the ToDo list, then I can lay down the keel for the model.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from aviaamator in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
In the moment I am working on a corrected disposition of frames drawing for my sloop
The basis are
DOF of Cygnet (ZAZ4691) Dimensions given in "The Ship Builders Repository", 1788 (1) Dimensions given in Steel "The Element and Practice of Naval Architecture", 1805 (1) Antscherl TFFM, Volume 1
(1) The dimensions I took from Allan Yedlinsky "Scantlings of Royal Navy Ships 1719-1805". The original books are unfortunately to expansive for my hobby budget.
The different timbers for the keel and the knee of the head, I took from David's book. I only adapt these to the other proportions.
After a lot of measurements in the DOF of Cygnet and comparing with the given dimensions, I decided to follow Steel. I am really surprised how well the frames fit to the original drawing. If you compare the numbers of the sweep ports with the original drawing, yo see that there is one port missing, because it was not shown on the As built drawing.
In the moment I am drawing the cant frames, which is much easier as by my second project.
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AnobiumPunctatum reacted to EdT in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Hello Cristian,
Very nice drawings. Getting the correct shape for the cant frames in the sheer plan view can be tricky business. Did you approximate these or use the actual profiles for this. The process I use for this is to construct the cant frame profile using waterlines along its line on the half breadth plan. Compressing the horizontal breadth of the cant frame profile to the fore and aft distance from its intersection at topside to the intersection point on the deadwood then yields an accurate shape in the sheer plane view. These sheer plane views are mainly for aesthetics, but constructing them is an interesting exercise in 2D CAD - even more interesting if you are manually drafting these. A similar process can be used to accurately represent the shape in the body plan. I found this helpful in lofting hawse timbers.
Lovely work.
Ed
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AnobiumPunctatum reacted to archjofo in La Créole 1827 by archjofo - Scale 1/48 - French corvette
Hello,
first of all I would like to thank you all for your encouragement.
Currently I'm still working on the interior finishing of the chaloupe.
Before I make the parts in wood, I make stencils out of cardboard.
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AnobiumPunctatum reacted to Chuck in WASHINGTON GALLEY by yamsterman - 1/48 scale - POF
Jeff is working on updating the plans and monograph. As soon as its complete I will post an an update along with the adjusted plans on the website. There really isnt much to say about it. The scarfs just need to be turned so they are now fully visible on the top and bottom of the keel rather than the sides. Stay tuned for the actual update.
Chuck
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from ggrieco in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
In the moment I am working on a corrected disposition of frames drawing for my sloop
The basis are
DOF of Cygnet (ZAZ4691) Dimensions given in "The Ship Builders Repository", 1788 (1) Dimensions given in Steel "The Element and Practice of Naval Architecture", 1805 (1) Antscherl TFFM, Volume 1
(1) The dimensions I took from Allan Yedlinsky "Scantlings of Royal Navy Ships 1719-1805". The original books are unfortunately to expansive for my hobby budget.
The different timbers for the keel and the knee of the head, I took from David's book. I only adapt these to the other proportions.
After a lot of measurements in the DOF of Cygnet and comparing with the given dimensions, I decided to follow Steel. I am really surprised how well the frames fit to the original drawing. If you compare the numbers of the sweep ports with the original drawing, yo see that there is one port missing, because it was not shown on the As built drawing.
In the moment I am drawing the cant frames, which is much easier as by my second project.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from Wintergreen in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Today it rained all day, so I had enough time to finish the design of the cant frames
The Bollard Timbers and Hawse Pieces are missing to complete the planning of framework.
The individual components and the frames I'll draw later during the build.
Next, the construction of the two-stage slipway is on the ToDo list, then I can lay down the keel for the model.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from Eddie in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Thanks for the Likes and comments
@druxey
Hopefully yes, but I will check this again and add them to the drawing. There is one timerhead, which was also shown on the Cygnet drawing that is positioned between two frames.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from Fam in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Today it rained all day, so I had enough time to finish the design of the cant frames
The Bollard Timbers and Hawse Pieces are missing to complete the planning of framework.
The individual components and the frames I'll draw later during the build.
Next, the construction of the two-stage slipway is on the ToDo list, then I can lay down the keel for the model.
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AnobiumPunctatum got a reaction from druxey in HM Sloop Fly by AnobiumPunctatum - 1:32 - POF
Thanks for the Likes and comments
@druxey
Hopefully yes, but I will check this again and add them to the drawing. There is one timerhead, which was also shown on the Cygnet drawing that is positioned between two frames.
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