Matrim

OK. so against my better judgement and all sensible advice, given that I have never been into modelling previously (outside of a couple of basic plastic aircraft models for a Grandson) and have no knowledge of the nautical world and it's terminology,  I am proceeding to build this kit. Most of my 'modelling time' over the last few weeks has actually been spent dipping into the many great forums on this site. My build is going to be super-slow as I read up on as much detail as I can find in relation to each tremulous step. 
 
First question. The bow filler piece that came with the kit (made of 'art wood') was markedly convex on both sides. I have sanded this back significantly so that there is now enough purchase afrea for glueing. As can be seen from the photo the bottom of this piece is never going to fit flush without a lot more sanding and I think if I do this the overall integrity of the shape will be lost. Is an option just to fill the underside gap and if so, how? Or do I just keep sanding?
 
Cheers, Ji
 
 

Actually it might still be around. I note your id has 9 posts credited to it but only 3 show in content though I may be missing something...  
 
We don't (as a rule) delete logs, usually only spam posts get instant deleted and even then the deleted content hangs around a few weeks so can pulled back if required (there is a time limit on deleted stuff). Very old logs (and 3 months isn't old) with posters who have not visited for years can be hidden and it 'might' be in the hidden section. That sections does not appear to be searchable and I managed to get to page 95 of the hidden stuff without seeing any trace of it.
 
It may be easier to start off again though.
 
 

Actually it might still be around. I note your id has 9 posts credited to it but only 3 show in content though I may be missing something...  
 
We don't (as a rule) delete logs, usually only spam posts get instant deleted and even then the deleted content hangs around a few weeks so can pulled back if required (there is a time limit on deleted stuff). Very old logs (and 3 months isn't old) with posters who have not visited for years can be hidden and it 'might' be in the hidden section. That sections does not appear to be searchable and I managed to get to page 95 of the hidden stuff without seeing any trace of it.
 
It may be easier to start off again though.
 
 

Actually it might still be around. I note your id has 9 posts credited to it but only 3 show in content though I may be missing something...  
 
We don't (as a rule) delete logs, usually only spam posts get instant deleted and even then the deleted content hangs around a few weeks so can pulled back if required (there is a time limit on deleted stuff). Very old logs (and 3 months isn't old) with posters who have not visited for years can be hidden and it 'might' be in the hidden section. That sections does not appear to be searchable and I managed to get to page 95 of the hidden stuff without seeing any trace of it.
 
It may be easier to start off again though.
 
 

Well I waited for my wood delivery to arrive and arrive it did. Just as we hit lockdown and I had to turn my modelling workspace into a home office (which it still is and will be for two-three months). This has caused a fairly natural hiatus in any worthwhile progress. A couple of weeks back I did take down my youngest sons wardrobe and as I did so I moved to the garage some of the nicer bits of wood and especially paid attention to the solid wood door and some of the support pieces. By flipping it on its back and drilling the support pieces underneath I just so happened to make a nice building board saving a few bob.

Here is it temporarily shifting my monitor/keyboard out of the way
 

 


It is sitting on the only space space my workshop currently has so on top of the router table..
 


Next steps are to mark the correct measurements (max breadth and keel lengths so I can make sure the 6 A4 sheets that make out the base plan are correctly placed)  and then add the plans. All of which I can do so over the remainder of the 'forced work from home'.

Actually it might still be around. I note your id has 9 posts credited to it but only 3 show in content though I may be missing something...  
 
We don't (as a rule) delete logs, usually only spam posts get instant deleted and even then the deleted content hangs around a few weeks so can pulled back if required (there is a time limit on deleted stuff). Very old logs (and 3 months isn't old) with posters who have not visited for years can be hidden and it 'might' be in the hidden section. That sections does not appear to be searchable and I managed to get to page 95 of the hidden stuff without seeing any trace of it.
 
It may be easier to start off again though.
 
 

I've spent the last portion of the week musing on scale. My last attempt was at 1:60 i(if I remember correctly) but I would prefer to work at a larger scale as it makes things less fiddly. That naturally introduces space considerations though these are lessened just because it is a 32 Gun ship so is slightly smaller than other same period frigates.
 
The ships body lengths could be taken off the plans but unless built as hull only are not the main factor and it was only after several MSW members helped me to try and translate a sail plan (leading to Mark P linking a contemporary mast dimension plan for a 32) that I could get slightly more accurate figures.
 
The key two needed were the bowsprit and jiboom and driver. The sail plan listed the point the spirit sail 'started' and that allowed me to approximately place the jiboom and the plan provided the correct angle.
 

Give or take a cm or two this should give me a relatively accurate length. Width was dependant on the main yard width with some additional allowance for the stunsail booms and then reduced by 10% (I am having the yards angled to reduce space and already tested this on my Bounty allowing me to measure the space 'saved') . Height was less important so though I had the correct mast sizes calculating the correct height was left and I instead extrapolated the main mast height from my Diana model (38) above the deck and then reduced it by 94% which appears the average size reduction from a 38 to a 32. Height will also be impacted by how it will be displayed and as that has not been decided yet it becomes still less important.
 
I then through up a horrifically badly drawn sketch to mark these down at the correct scale
 

 
 
The measurements against the ship are in millimetres
 
It is certainly going to be 'big'. It is always useful to find something to compare the model end size to and I think I succeeded in that the dresser this computer is sitting on is almost the same size. The model will be 8-9 cm longer and the same wider so the width and length are very close (admittedly most of the length and width will be rigging and yards). Height wise it will end up being around half the height again.
 

 
Pluses are that it will fit through doors with slight care - a 38 at 1:48 would fit through my doors with around a cm spare so with 'extreme' care. It will also therefore sit on a wider dresser than the one shown (or a table). I suspect my wife wont let it in the house so it will potentially decorate my work room when done but as I stated earlier ship modelling is more the journey than the result.
 
If I put it in a glass case then that will also be huge.
 
Next I have to think more on materials. At least for the frame at this point.

Well I waited for my wood delivery to arrive and arrive it did. Just as we hit lockdown and I had to turn my modelling workspace into a home office (which it still is and will be for two-three months). This has caused a fairly natural hiatus in any worthwhile progress. A couple of weeks back I did take down my youngest sons wardrobe and as I did so I moved to the garage some of the nicer bits of wood and especially paid attention to the solid wood door and some of the support pieces. By flipping it on its back and drilling the support pieces underneath I just so happened to make a nice building board saving a few bob.

Here is it temporarily shifting my monitor/keyboard out of the way
 

 


It is sitting on the only space space my workshop currently has so on top of the router table..
 


Next steps are to mark the correct measurements (max breadth and keel lengths so I can make sure the 6 A4 sheets that make out the base plan are correctly placed)  and then add the plans. All of which I can do so over the remainder of the 'forced work from home'.

Well I waited for my wood delivery to arrive and arrive it did. Just as we hit lockdown and I had to turn my modelling workspace into a home office (which it still is and will be for two-three months). This has caused a fairly natural hiatus in any worthwhile progress. A couple of weeks back I did take down my youngest sons wardrobe and as I did so I moved to the garage some of the nicer bits of wood and especially paid attention to the solid wood door and some of the support pieces. By flipping it on its back and drilling the support pieces underneath I just so happened to make a nice building board saving a few bob.

Here is it temporarily shifting my monitor/keyboard out of the way
 

 


It is sitting on the only space space my workshop currently has so on top of the router table..
 


Next steps are to mark the correct measurements (max breadth and keel lengths so I can make sure the 6 A4 sheets that make out the base plan are correctly placed)  and then add the plans. All of which I can do so over the remainder of the 'forced work from home'.

Well I waited for my wood delivery to arrive and arrive it did. Just as we hit lockdown and I had to turn my modelling workspace into a home office (which it still is and will be for two-three months). This has caused a fairly natural hiatus in any worthwhile progress. A couple of weeks back I did take down my youngest sons wardrobe and as I did so I moved to the garage some of the nicer bits of wood and especially paid attention to the solid wood door and some of the support pieces. By flipping it on its back and drilling the support pieces underneath I just so happened to make a nice building board saving a few bob.

Here is it temporarily shifting my monitor/keyboard out of the way
 

 


It is sitting on the only space space my workshop currently has so on top of the router table..
 


Next steps are to mark the correct measurements (max breadth and keel lengths so I can make sure the 6 A4 sheets that make out the base plan are correctly placed)  and then add the plans. All of which I can do so over the remainder of the 'forced work from home'.

Well I waited for my wood delivery to arrive and arrive it did. Just as we hit lockdown and I had to turn my modelling workspace into a home office (which it still is and will be for two-three months). This has caused a fairly natural hiatus in any worthwhile progress. A couple of weeks back I did take down my youngest sons wardrobe and as I did so I moved to the garage some of the nicer bits of wood and especially paid attention to the solid wood door and some of the support pieces. By flipping it on its back and drilling the support pieces underneath I just so happened to make a nice building board saving a few bob.

Here is it temporarily shifting my monitor/keyboard out of the way
 

 


It is sitting on the only space space my workshop currently has so on top of the router table..
 


Next steps are to mark the correct measurements (max breadth and keel lengths so I can make sure the 6 A4 sheets that make out the base plan are correctly placed)  and then add the plans. All of which I can do so over the remainder of the 'forced work from home'.

Well I waited for my wood delivery to arrive and arrive it did. Just as we hit lockdown and I had to turn my modelling workspace into a home office (which it still is and will be for two-three months). This has caused a fairly natural hiatus in any worthwhile progress. A couple of weeks back I did take down my youngest sons wardrobe and as I did so I moved to the garage some of the nicer bits of wood and especially paid attention to the solid wood door and some of the support pieces. By flipping it on its back and drilling the support pieces underneath I just so happened to make a nice building board saving a few bob.

Here is it temporarily shifting my monitor/keyboard out of the way
 

 


It is sitting on the only space space my workshop currently has so on top of the router table..
 


Next steps are to mark the correct measurements (max breadth and keel lengths so I can make sure the 6 A4 sheets that make out the base plan are correctly placed)  and then add the plans. All of which I can do so over the remainder of the 'forced work from home'.

that is a beautiful ship. I particularly like the rust.

Saludos compañeros... os paso imágenes de la preparación y colocación de los imbornales. 
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Saludos compañeros ... sigo con la construcción y montaje del "mascarón", representando a Miguel que junto con Rafael y Gabriel, eran los tres arcángeles de la "Santísima Trinidad"      (Paso imágenes)
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Saludos compañeros ... paso imágenes de la construcción del tajamar.
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Gracias Matrim... continuo pasando imágenes...

The kit is entirely developed and they have a manual, but they want the manual re-made into their current style. That means them sending me the parts and at least building and completing the hull, and me sending them the corrected/annotated photos and the text to go with it. They also want me to double-check specifics on the build too.
 
I don't think you're far off the mark with a couple of years, but at least it's now happening whereas a couple of months ago, there was a distinct possibility you wouldn't have seen this for much longer....if at all. 
 
There is an upside to two years though.....time to get some cash set aside for it!

beautiful work...

I do love those barrels with the coat of arms..

beautiful work...

Thank you Matrim, I am also notorious for building (ahem) models of various things just because!

that is a beautiful ship. I particularly like the rust.

that is a beautiful ship. I particularly like the rust.

beautiful work...