Matrim

And some more photos .... the last ones 
 

 

 

 

 
and at the last once more my personal favourite photo
 

The case of the section......mainly out of glass, the view shall stay at the section 
 

 

 

Hallo Christian,
 
I made in my post a small mistake which confused a little bit.
I mentioned "class" at the Mermaid, which was incorrect. Thanks Russ for the explanation and the correct information of the different vessels!
 
 
In this topic Russ made already a good clarification in his post: 
 
For everybody interested in frigates this book also written by Robert Gardiner could be also of interest:
 
THE HEAVY FRIGATE - Eighteen-Pounder Frigate: Volume I, 1778 - 1800
 
Coming back to the Triton Section and as all of you were already expecting the Section is finally finished.
 
I want to say many Thanks
 
to Russ who made this project possible with his preparation of the complete information
as well as his continuous assistance and helpful comments during this log,
the draftsman Don who prepared here wonderful drawings, very exact and detailed,
so everybody could understand and follow.
And off course many many thanks to my friend and mentor Zeljko.
 
It was a nice and interesting and sometimes surprising log and I enjoyed all of your comments,
remarks, questions as well as all discussions.
So therefore also many thanks to all members writing interesting posts in this topic.
 
Many Thanks for your attention during the time and I hope you had fun
and some of you found one or two new information,
how to make something and / or also how not to make it......
 
 
Here are some photos of the finished Section
 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 

Step by step we are coming to the end of the log........

Here today some photos of the installed gun-carriages fully rigged on the deck. 
 

 

 

 

And here some closer look at the guns from the side....... 
 

 

 

 
Comments, remarks and questions (as usual) are very welcome............

Here are the final photos of the build. I would like to thank the draftsmen and organizers of this online build for all of your efforts to make this cross section a reality. I'd also like to thank all of you who wrote encouraging comments along the way It's been a lot of fun to build her and I've learned quite a bit that I can incorporate into future projects.
 

 

Complete!!

Feels good to have finished her at last. With the gangways complete, and half the hull coppered, I finished a little display stand to show her off. I even took a crack a making an acrylic display box cover for the stand. Gonna take a little more practice to perfect that. There are a lot of bubbles in the joints on the acrylic, but not bad for my first time. All I need now is a little brass nameplate!


Once again, I want to thank everyone who contributed to this project. To all of you who invested your time to create the drawings, monitor the build logs and give your input, all those who came before me and took the time to post thier build logs, and all of you who offered suggestions and support, I thank you! You've made this a great first project, and made me a convert to scratch building!


...now I'm off to finish rigging my first model. Lots more to learn about rigging before I can tackle a complete scratch build, but I'll be back for the complete Triton build before too long! 
 

 

 

 

Don't have a lot from the old log but I did get some of the completed shots on my mobile which are shown below. The quality wont be as good as the originals either.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Joss

Hi Matrim
 
I’ve seen photos of clippers & cargo ships alongside in Sydney with their lower/longer yards acockbill (canted vertically) due to the proximity of the warehouse. Hmm, that could make an interesting diorama.
 
I believe all yards acockbill was also used as a sign of mourning, presumably when a ship was at anchor.
 
Mark

Was trying to find a photo to illustrate the above and this came up in the google search.
 
 
Mark

Cockbilled yards are when the yards are tilted in the vertical rather than horizontal plane. In past times, yards acockbill signified the same thing as a flag at half staff; a sign of mourning.

Perfect, and thank you for the confirmation!

Probably a silly question but if I attach the yards to the mast heavily angled (I have forgotten the technical term but basically at 45 degrees to the mast and not squared on) then would that have been something never done (without sails when it would obviously).
 
The space saving would be considerable when storing/displaying and though I know as my model it does not matter and there are also far more display issues (cannons run out yet the ship is like the Marie Celeste etc etc) I dont want to do something that would never have been seen either...

Hello @James H
 
as far as the colouring of the Bounty is concerned, I can't give you a definitive answer, there is no definitive description in my sources and books. But at that time a painting like the one shown in #10 was quite common. Instead of blue it could be black, green (not usual in England) or red, but also the blue paint was used and would have been possible for the Bounty. Since Prussian Blue was discovered in the 20s of the 18th century, an inexpensive blue color was available in large quantities. The costs for Prussian Blue in the middle of the 18th century were only about twice the price of the cheap red, red/yellow colors.
Of course, at that time also other blue colours had been available, but mostly Prussian Blue was used.
 
regards, Joachim

This image is much closer to correct. The only  change I might consider is changing the little bit of blue on the topsides to black. Changing the wale feom yellow ro black and changing the area below the wale to varmishd
 

I quite like the idea of, one day, doing a ship with all the gun ports closed and the guns secured against movement as that is unusual (for a model) and not unusual for the ship.
 
If seas were heavy and gun ports were low then you could easily see some ports closed to simply protect the ship.

If time and crew and weather  were not an issue then both sides would probably be prepared so that you would not have too suddenly arm and run out a ships side if the ship fell off unexpectedly, or someone else arrived etc etc. 

Several historical engagements had ports shut due to weather and several more (the Nile) had one side of the ship blocked up with various ship debris as the captain never thought a ship could move between them and the shore.
 
So all in all whatever you want!

I quite like the idea of, one day, doing a ship with all the gun ports closed and the guns secured against movement as that is unusual (for a model) and not unusual for the ship.
 
If seas were heavy and gun ports were low then you could easily see some ports closed to simply protect the ship.

If time and crew and weather  were not an issue then both sides would probably be prepared so that you would not have too suddenly arm and run out a ships side if the ship fell off unexpectedly, or someone else arrived etc etc. 

Several historical engagements had ports shut due to weather and several more (the Nile) had one side of the ship blocked up with various ship debris as the captain never thought a ship could move between them and the shore.
 
So all in all whatever you want!

I quite like the idea of, one day, doing a ship with all the gun ports closed and the guns secured against movement as that is unusual (for a model) and not unusual for the ship.
 
If seas were heavy and gun ports were low then you could easily see some ports closed to simply protect the ship.

If time and crew and weather  were not an issue then both sides would probably be prepared so that you would not have too suddenly arm and run out a ships side if the ship fell off unexpectedly, or someone else arrived etc etc. 

Several historical engagements had ports shut due to weather and several more (the Nile) had one side of the ship blocked up with various ship debris as the captain never thought a ship could move between them and the shore.
 
So all in all whatever you want!

Only  a tiny update as I steadily prep the masts. Mass gluing with little clamps
 

 
and then using a mill to drill the holes for the rigging in the tops. To get the hole location I traced the outer angle of the top on a piece of paper then marked the holes. I then cut the outer shape with scissors laid the template on the top and pushed through with a sharp point.
 

You could Email directly for contact and he may (I say may) be able to do a pay by 'paypal send me' to cover costs so not needing a web link.
 
 

You could Email directly for contact and he may (I say may) be able to do a pay by 'paypal send me' to cover costs so not needing a web link.
 
 

this is an impressive kit for card....I am surprised how realistic it is looking. (not a reference to your modelling skills!!!)

I am just about to put the tops on my masts and was wondering about angles. The plans seem to show the tops (for fore and main) at right angles to the mast but the masts rake would mean that would end in the tops being at a slightly unusual angle. (The Mizzen on the plans has a rake of its own possibly due to the much larger mizzen rake)
 
So my question is whether this is expected or if I should position to the tops to be more perpendicular to the deck..

Perfect, thank you...

Matrim,
The tops should not be at  right angles to their respective masts but tilted down at their fronts at the same angle as the mast is raked aft. 
 
As the tops are fitted to the trestle and cross trees Steele says :- "the foremost ends (trestle trees) are to drop as much below a square with the middle line on the mast as the mast is to rake aft in the length. That they may be level when the mast is in its place". Sorry about the somewhat archaic English.
 
Hope this is of help.
 
Dave