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'Found a few other nautical terms: Amidships – Condition of being surrounded by boats. Anchor – A device shaped so as to grip the bottom. It is secured to the anchor rode from the boat to hold the boat in the desired position. The anchor is often controlled by a windlass. Will often bring up mud samples from the bottom at inopportune or unexpected times. Baggywrinkle - The effect of sun and salt spray on your skin. Berth – A little addition to the crew. Bottom Paint – What you get when the cockpit seats are freshly painted. Chart – A nautical map often telling you exactly where you are aground. Clew – An indication from the skipper as to what he might do next. Companionway – A double berth. Dead Reckoning – A course leading directly to a reef. Deadrise – Getting up to check the anchor at 03:00. Deviation – Any departure from the Captain’s orders. Displacement – When you dock your boat and can’t find it later. Estimated Position – A place you have marked on the chart where you are sure you are not. Fairlead - Handicap given in a race between two ships of different rig. First Mate – Crew member necessary for skippers to practice shouting instructions to. Gollywobbler - The loser of a drinking contest. Headway – What you are making if you can’t get the toilet to work. Heave-Ho – What you do when you’ve eaten too much Ho. Keel – Term used by 1st mate after too much heel by the skipper. Landlubber – Anyone on board who wishes he/she were not. Latitude – The number of degrees off course allowed a guest. Mast – Religious ritual used before setting sail. Mizzen – An object you cannot find. Orlop - Shortening an oar with a saw. Sextant - A device to detect hanky-panky. Sheer - Shaving a crewman's head and belly by Neptune's mates on his first Equator crossing. Shroud – Equipment used in connection with a wake. Starboard – Special board used by skippers for navigation. Stern – The back end of the boat. Swell – A wave that’s just great. Square Rigger – A rigger over 35. Tender – The possible condition of one’s head after being Three Sheets to the Wind. Three Sheets to the Wind – Drunk. Winch and Windlass - Doxies aboard ship. Yar - A German or Dutchman's jar ... or affirmative answer during roll call. Not to be confused with Thar or Arrr.
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An alternate solution is to fabricate a substitute spacer piece with a tab in the correct position, by checking for correct tab location with a card stock template (adjusted as needed), then cutting out a new spacer with a scroll saw (or manual coping saw with a fine blade)
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'Just love the figures - and, of course, the ship !
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Welcome aboard, mate! I'm sure there may be a few suggestions for a warship with guns & 'the works'.
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Advice on next build - Occre & Shipways
Snug Harbor Johnny replied to travis's topic in Wood ship model kits
'Always thought that 'cutaways' were a lot of trouble, and I'm challenged enough just to build a project. A couple of thoughts on a 'next kit': Model Shipways Fair American 1:48 (priced from $215 - $269, depending on source ... sometimes for less with someone selling an unbuilt kit on Ebay) - claimed O.A.L is 26" including bowsprit (18" hull? - not sure) This is a great scale to do rigging with scale rope of various diameters, as scale blocks/deadeyes will be larger and easier to handle & strop. There are guns on deck, but not too may guns - and not too many masts/yards to rig. It can be made with or w/o sails. There are builds to refer to on MSW. Blue Jacket Shipbuilders Harriet Lane 1:96 priced similar to above (note: avoid the older, smaller scale version of this 1:144 w/ solid hulls); This is a transitional warship with paddle wheels and some sails. The ship, when built, only has 3 guns (in the kit), which was OK at the time for a Coast Guard Cutter. With the outbreak of the Civil War, there were 3 more guns added ... so I'd try to procure an extra set (or duplicate them myself - a nice side project). CAVEAT: looking at the builds on MSW, most find that the guns are forced into a slight downward angle by the top of the gun ports ... 'don't know what caused this oversight, but the most practical fix is to abrade the bottoms of the gun carriages (and the notch for the square axle beam), which lowers the height of the carriage (the barrels are scale, as determined by others). Deepening the notches for the trunions (and trimming the tops) can be another tweak. 1:96 is more fiddly to rig (the blocks, etc. are half the size of 1:48) - but with the 180' length of the original, the 23" hull (not including bowsprit) is a decent sized model of a cool looking ship. -
As I recall of the Fair American, the bottom of the keel at the stern is definitely lower than at the bow, so whatever stand or mounting is used has to take this keel 'drop' into account.
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Hello from Lithuania
Snug Harbor Johnny replied to Captain Vytautas's topic in New member Introductions
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'Sorry, mate - but I just couldn't let this inquiry go without further search. And it seems the 'Newport Ship' is a very near contemporary to Columbus' ships (just 3 decades earlier), so most likely represents the state of the art of ship building at the time. I noted that (based on the wood source) that construction was done in Spain, and the vessel was later being repaired in England when misfortune caused her to be abandoned (after much salvage above the water line) near the river bank - where she was found preserved by exclusion of oxygen ... an exciting find ! Having planks of radially split oak made perfect sense, in that oak for 'wet cooperage' is done the same way ... to prevent water passing through the wood. The construction was lapstrake planks from a keel, with iron headed nails driven through slightly undersized holes (to prevent splitting) - and the protruding end within the developing hull was clenched over (like door nails were) for a tight fit and permanence (the expected life of the hull) without rovings in this case - see the Oxford test and images below. (Note: the Wiki entry 'assumes' rovings were used before clenching, but the Oxford anaysis did not find evidence of rovings or imprints of rovings.) Then after so much planking, ribs were fit into place and made fast to the clinker planks with one tree nail per plank, and no tree nails into the keel. Fascinating ! This seems a valid interpretation of how to do most any size boat of that era.
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I'll definitely follow along, since this is a well thought-out kit - and a good 'in between' major build projects to consider. The build seems a little easier than what I've seen on the Captain Smith shallop. When I started the old 1:100 Billings Vasa 50 years ago (and left her alone for 40 years after planking), I put somewhat oversized tree nails through the planks where they were over bulkheads ... limited by my drill size and insufficient knowledge. Indeed, there was MUCH to be discovered about the original now on display in the coming years, and the planks on the original were just nailed in with headed spikes. So I left what tree nails I'd put in the model alone, and added tiny nails (originally in the kit to plank with, interestingly enough) in between the rows of tree nails. Major surgery was done on the stern, but what I have is definitely recognizable as a representation of the Vasa ... even with some divergences, it seems attractive enough (and I've yet to finish it). My guess (with 1628 being the Vasa date) is that more than a century earlier they likely just used nails when planking a ship's boat. A guess, but perhaps as good as any other.
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Even as a teen, I never thought much of plastic sails ... but if the kit instructions suggested using the plastic sails as patterns for substituting light-weight cloth for sails, I likely would have tried that ('Never thought of that myself way back then, and 'assumed' that the kit instructions were a 'bible' as far as research and authenticity were concerned ... ha!).
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Was this sort of boat made with tree nails ... or metal fasteners?
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Remove Tamiya paint
Snug Harbor Johnny replied to JoniP's topic in Painting, finishing and weathering products and techniques
Perhaps its the ammonia (among other ingredients) in the Windex that do the job. -
Rob's right, since direct sunlight - and even reflected sunlight - transmit damaging UVa and UVb (high energy) radiation. Just expose your unprotected skin to the sun for an hour, and you'll get a nasty sunburn (with a chance of future skin cancer). Skin can generally heal itself, but not a model. Rigging line or sail cloth of any material will become brittle with sunlight, and will fall apart over the years. The last clipper model built by my dad (which I offered to restore for my brother, who had the model) became so fragile (it was made entirely out of natural materials) that the rigging simply disintegrated and everything fell apart - according to my bro. Sad thing, the wooden parts still could have been rebuilt and re-rigged ... but it was thrown out as a 'hot mess'. Painting every plastic surface is a great protectant, but even the paint might not fare so well under UV. The solution? House windows can have a thin film applied to the glass on the inside of the pane that will reject bot UV and infa-red (heat wave) spectrum to make them more energy efficient. There are companies that do this, and if one is handy, one can apply the film (with practice) oneself. The home interior will benefit. Modern 'efficient' windows have this feature built in. Attics are terrible places for even cased models, since high heat will in crease the aging of materials as much or mose than some UV. I suppose that UV excluding glass can be used for a case the same way fine art is protected within a frame.
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Remove Tamiya paint
Snug Harbor Johnny replied to JoniP's topic in Painting, finishing and weathering products and techniques
I Googled 'how to remove acrylic paint', and a result was that denatured alcohol (methanol) will work better than 90% isopropanol (IPA or 'rubbing' alcohol) ... note that 70% and even 50% is also sold as the watered down version is less irritating to skin. My admirable Admiral was pulling her hair out trying to remove dry acrylic from a formed plastic mixing tray used for a project, as she was only using soap and water. I applied some hardware-store methanol on a paper towel and SHAZAAM, much of the residue came off - only the thickest and oldest blobs remained. So pouring some denatured in the pockets of the tray to let them soak (plus a little prying later with a dull 'dinner' knife), and most of that came off. I left the clean tray, soiled paper towel and the can of methanol out on the counter to give her a pleasant surprise for her later when she comes down form the sewing room. I suppose you could soak the parts in a deep tray of denatured alcohol if they don't come cleaner with IPA (the first recommendation of the Google search). It is possible that 20 year old paint may not be removable ... so in that case, you can paint over the parts where needed. -
Look closely at Rob's photos, and you can see that he used 1:96 Revell blocks on Glory of the Seas (and some others), which can be had from Revell C.S., Thermie or Connie kits (and a couple others). There are still a fair number of new or partially built 1:96 kits to be found on line. The molded eyes are single & double becket single blocks, and double becket double blocks - convertible into a single becket. They are good enough representations of internally stropped blocks (one can ignore the slight side rib on them, or even file them off) - the type used on later clippers. By leaving the side rib on the Revell blocks, they can double as externally stropped.
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'Saw a fairly large Bluenose 2 model where the sails had 'just started' to be raised ... lending an 'action' element to the presentation (that might have even been improved with a few scale figures). I could see plenty of rigging and construction details since they weren't blocked by fully extended sail cloth ... they were still mostly gathered.
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Necessity is the mother of invention, and you've done well mate !
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Spanker/Gaffsail Boom Rigging
Snug Harbor Johnny replied to Mark Paulhus's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
So not to be superfluous, the sheave could be used for the ensign - not sure where it belayed. Petersson p.27 (w/o sheave) uses a small block attched to an eye at the ehd. -
Spanker/Gaffsail Boom Rigging
Snug Harbor Johnny replied to Mark Paulhus's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
You have a good approach, and I've copied your drawing for reference ... thanks ! As has been said elsewhere, the captain could have the ship rigged to his orders - and you are captain of this ship. There are often multiple ways to accomplish each task with lines and tackle. For example, I'm enamored of the two ways to combine a leech line with the outer bunt line by use of a 'bulls eye' shown on p.169 of 'Masting and Rigging the Clipper Ship & Ocean Carrier' by Harold Underhill (you may have this already). When coupled with the method of controlling two buntlines on p.163 (and I'll use just 2 blocks, a & c, rather than the three pictured) - what would have been 3 separate lines needing belay points below can be combined into a single haul line ! Eliminating 2 lines on both sides of a sail (4) x at least 12 sails on a square rigged ship, and there will be 48 less lines to route through fairleads and belay. These and other reasonable simplifications will be used on a Winter project of mine (delayed by summer landscaping ... and the resulting hernia surgery I've undergone as a result of an older guy still thinking he can do what he could at a younger age). A model ship is an art form representing the tastes and judgement of the builder. Work to please yourself in your own time frame. One get find pleasure even thinking or planning what course of action to take on a project (while busy with other tasks). Your ship in dry dock will patiently wait for you without complaint until you can get back to it. Be assured, I'm not laughing (as in retirement, I'm something of a newbie myself ... and intermediate level is as far as I'm likely to achieve) - and I highly doubt that any other builder on our forum is laughing either. At worst, it may pleasantly remind them of the path they have already trod to wherever they are. I expect that there will at least two unfinished projects when I pass over the bar, and figure that someone else might just take them up sooner or later. Like someone said, "I've worried about a lot of things in life - most of which never happened. Fair sailing! Johnny -
The A.L. 1:75 Bluenose II may be a good compromise - enhanced for accuracy with the Jensen book on the Bluenose II. Check out the various builds at various scales that are on MSW ... you'll get a LOT on information to help you decide ... sort of ,'look before you buy'.
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Spanker/Gaffsail Boom Rigging
Snug Harbor Johnny replied to Mark Paulhus's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I'm still learning about rigging, where every line has a purpose, and thought to defer to a more experienced MSW builder. Yet I'm intrigued by your post, and consulted 'Rigging Period Ship Models' by Lennarth Petersson - a book dealing exactly with warships of the Bounty period. I'll include somewhat out-of-focus images for 'use in a book review' , and suggest you buy yourself a copy to se ALL the fantastic details in pictorial form regarding masting, rigging and sails for your Bounty. Kit makers often simplify or modify instructions in this area for an 'out of the box' build. The # 805 image you question appears to be a confusion of the outhaul for the spanker (with an inhaul on the other side), on p.81 of the book. The spacing of the elements is not necessarily exact to provide more clarity of function. There are three purchases on the tackle, so the space between them will be slightly more than 1/3 the length of the distance the spanker is hauled out along the gaff (before hauling out), and once hauled out - the blocks will be closer together. The inner block (which will likely be closer to the yoke than as pictured) appears to be attached (not clear) to the underside of the gaff yoke, with the haul line is belayed on a cleat on the gaff. Models without sails likely omit the in and out haul tackle. The inhaul (on the other side of the gaff boom) works in a similar manner to bring the lower corner of the spanker in. The only lines attached to control the gaff boom are the topping lifts, the gaff pendants, and the sheet. While there are peak (boom) and throat (yoke) halyards for the upper boom, the lower boom is not raised, nor does it go lower than the support collar allows.
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