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Dan Vadas reacted to Jeff-E in Colonial Sloop Norfolk 1798 by Jeff E - FINISHED - Modellers Shipyard - 1:36 scale
Hello everyone,
After marking the and measuring the frames the next stage in the build was the first layer of planking.
Anyone one who followwed Dan Vads build of this model on the old site will know that used scale plank lengths for both the first and second layer of planks, I have done the same . I found it eaiser to glue on and position the smaller lengths than trying to glue on a full length plank in one go without the glue going off.
The length of the hull is approximatly 330mm from stem to stern along the keel so at a scale of 1:36 the longest plank could be about 200mm which equates to about 23ft. I used a 3 butt shift pattern to lay the planks.
I followed Danny's log closely while laying the first layer of planks however his turned out a lot better than mine , but for for my first attempt at this method I was quite happy with the result .
The first photos show the first bow plank fitted and the stern stealers. I will post some more pictures shortly.
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Dan Vadas reacted to Kevin in sail powered submarine - moved by moderator
On 1 May 1921 USS R-14 (SS-91) Runs out of fuel at sea. Makes port with makeshift sails of sheets, underway on sail power for 4 days.
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from mtaylor in Le Mirage by Sjors - FINISHED - Corel - Wood - 1:75
Hi Sjors,
Now all you need is a lathe, a scroll saw and (most important) a disc sander and you will have the complete workshop .
Have a good trip.
Danny
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Dan Vadas reacted to Jeff-E in Colonial Sloop Norfolk 1798 by Jeff E - FINISHED - Modellers Shipyard - 1:36 scale
:DHello All,
Hi Danny and thank you for looking in and I will take you up on your offer of advice when needed
The next stage was to fit the first plank which is to be positioned, according to the instrctions, 3.5mm below the the top of the frames. As i had already fitted the deck I measured from the top of the deck which is 1.5mm thick, therefore my first plank was fitted 2mm below the frames, a mistake I did not realise I had made until the first planking was almost completed.
This problem was over come when the bulwarks were fitted I sanded them down to suit .
After this first plank was fitted I then fitted the garboard strake. To ensure that the keel fitted snuggly to the garboard strake I temporarily fitted two 5mm spacers to the false keel.Before laying the garbord plank I soaked the rear end of the plank and then clamped it place on the frame to ensure the twist from about frame 8 sternwards was achieved. Both the first plank and the garboard plank were laid full length.
Once these were laid I then measured each frame, both port and starboard, and recorded them. This would tell me the width of each plank at each frame. I then ran a series of planks aproximately 5 plank widths apart and left to lie naturally.
These planks served two purposes one to form planking bands, and the second to show how the planks would run.
The following pictures will hopefully explain it clearer
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from Børge in Le Mirage by Sjors - FINISHED - Corel - Wood - 1:75
Hi Sjors,
Now all you need is a lathe, a scroll saw and (most important) a disc sander and you will have the complete workshop .
Have a good trip.
Danny
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from avsjerome2003 in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
The final pieces of the rudder itself - I've inserted 52 blackened brass "bolts" into the pintles and also the 19 bolts that go through the main piece and blade to hold them together :
Danny
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from Shazmira in Le Mirage by Sjors - FINISHED - Corel - Wood - 1:75
Hi Sjors,
Now all you need is a lathe, a scroll saw and (most important) a disc sander and you will have the complete workshop .
Have a good trip.
Danny
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from CaptainSteve in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
Pintles
I made the rudder Pintles from 1.6mm thick brass sheet. First I milled most of the inside, leaving a thin piece at the bottom for strength while the rest of the work was carried out :
Then I cut each piece from the main sheet, sanded the angle at the fore end on the disc sander and drilled the holes for the Pins and bolts :
I filed out the thin centre and silver-soldered in the Pins :
Next job was to mill the rebates for the straps and recess the fore ends. For a Mill Cutter I ground the point of a 1.6mm drill flat - perfect tiny cutter (note - I only left a very short piece protruding from the chuck so it wouldn't snap off). The last two pics are of a dry-fitted pintle :
Then I lightly blackened them to simulate bronze :
And finally another dry-fit :
Danny
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from hopeful in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
Spectacle Plate
The Spectacle Plate holds the two chains to the rudder. These prevented the total loss of the rudder if it became accidentally unshipped, and could also be used as emergency steering if there was damage to the ships wheel etc.
I made this in similar fashion to the Pintles from one piece. Note the thinning of the eyes :
I actually had to make two of these - I measured the wrong part of the rudder the first time and finished up 3mm too short
. It took me about 2 hours to mill, drill and file each one. I also made another lower Pintle - if you look back at one of the previous pics where I dry-fitted the blackened pintles you'll notice that the lowest one is a little short. That's now fixed. Danny -
Dan Vadas got a reaction from sonicmcdude in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
Thanks for looking in again John, Druxey, Adeline, Ben, Allan and Pat.
Right on the waterline Ben. The way it's been drawn in TFFM leads me to believe it's rebated, though it isn't mentioned in the text.
Hi all,
There are three Bands around the upper section of the rudder to strengthen it. These were hammered on hot on the real ship and not bolted, although I don't know how they would have done that with the lower one - the rudder is thinner in section at that point than it is at the top. I silver soldered the two top ones and just epoxied the lower one.
All the pintles, bands and spectacle plate have been epoxied in place - they will also be "bolted". The epoxy makes a bit of a mess, especially when you make a slip with the toothpick. It's easily cut off after 15 minutes drying time - a lot better than trying to wipe it off when wet ... that makes an even bigger mess .
The hole for the Tiller has also been cut in - this hole tapers from 9" square to 7" square at the aft end - quite a trick to get right. I made the taper on the tiller as well to ensure it will fit later on.
Danny
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from dvm27 in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
Thanks for looking in again John, Druxey, Adeline, Ben, Allan and Pat.
Right on the waterline Ben. The way it's been drawn in TFFM leads me to believe it's rebated, though it isn't mentioned in the text.
Hi all,
There are three Bands around the upper section of the rudder to strengthen it. These were hammered on hot on the real ship and not bolted, although I don't know how they would have done that with the lower one - the rudder is thinner in section at that point than it is at the top. I silver soldered the two top ones and just epoxied the lower one.
All the pintles, bands and spectacle plate have been epoxied in place - they will also be "bolted". The epoxy makes a bit of a mess, especially when you make a slip with the toothpick. It's easily cut off after 15 minutes drying time - a lot better than trying to wipe it off when wet ... that makes an even bigger mess .
The hole for the Tiller has also been cut in - this hole tapers from 9" square to 7" square at the aft end - quite a trick to get right. I made the taper on the tiller as well to ensure it will fit later on.
Danny
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from sonicmcdude in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
The final pieces of the rudder itself - I've inserted 52 blackened brass "bolts" into the pintles and also the 19 bolts that go through the main piece and blade to hold them together :
Danny
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
The final pieces of the rudder itself - I've inserted 52 blackened brass "bolts" into the pintles and also the 19 bolts that go through the main piece and blade to hold them together :
Danny
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from AnobiumPunctatum in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
Thanks for looking in again John, Druxey, Adeline, Ben, Allan and Pat.
Right on the waterline Ben. The way it's been drawn in TFFM leads me to believe it's rebated, though it isn't mentioned in the text.
Hi all,
There are three Bands around the upper section of the rudder to strengthen it. These were hammered on hot on the real ship and not bolted, although I don't know how they would have done that with the lower one - the rudder is thinner in section at that point than it is at the top. I silver soldered the two top ones and just epoxied the lower one.
All the pintles, bands and spectacle plate have been epoxied in place - they will also be "bolted". The epoxy makes a bit of a mess, especially when you make a slip with the toothpick. It's easily cut off after 15 minutes drying time - a lot better than trying to wipe it off when wet ... that makes an even bigger mess .
The hole for the Tiller has also been cut in - this hole tapers from 9" square to 7" square at the aft end - quite a trick to get right. I made the taper on the tiller as well to ensure it will fit later on.
Danny
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Dan Vadas reacted to gjdale in Le Mirage by Sjors - FINISHED - Corel - Wood - 1:75
Hi Sjors,
I really feel for you my friend. It's a big decision to pull apart something you've already made, but I can tell you from my own experience that the hardest part is actually making the decision to do so. After that, it's easy. When I decided to re-do the entire stern and quarter galleries on my Vic, it was for two reasons. Firstly, I just knew I was never going to be happy with the old version. The second, and perhaps more important reason that tipped me over the edge, was the support I knew I would have from people here, and in particular from Danny. I had no idea at all how to go about this daunting task, but Danny was able to guide me through it step by step, via long distance remote control (gotta love the Internet!). The end result may not be perfect, but it is a huge improvement over the previous version, and I am a better modeller for the experience. I am also much more confident about fixing other mistakes, or scratch building new parts.
Something for you to think on during your vacation........
I hope you both have a most enjoyable vacation and return refreshed and ready to make sawdust.
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Dan Vadas reacted to Sjors in Le Mirage by Sjors - FINISHED - Corel - Wood - 1:75
Good morning to you all.
@ Sherry,
You are just saying what i was thinking.
I think I'm not inviting ship modellers…….
@ Augie,
Aggy for sure!
@ Danny,
I'm not quote your replay otherwise I need the hole page…..
But I'm gonna answer your replay..
You are quilty
But I don't mind.
I'm glad that you show me the way how it has to be.
After a good night sleep I know now for sure that I'm gonna change it!
And it will not take to long.
You are right by fix things...
This is a minor fix if you look at Grant his fix…..that was huge!
Anja was saying that it is a bad thing that we don't have a backup builder close by…...
Can you not move to the Netherlands?
There is a home available close by...
Thanks for the pep talk!
I needed that!
@ Adrieke,
I get your point!
I'm not happy how it looks now.
So, change time….
@ Popeye,
Thanks for the convince in me.
I have 3 weeks to think about it.
Maybe before the 3 weeks are over ,i'll be on it.
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from mtaylor in Le Mirage by Sjors - FINISHED - Corel - Wood - 1:75
Hi Sjors,
Oh dear, I hope it wasn't something I said . Don't worry Sjors, a couple of weeks of vacation will soon have you wanting to keep building Mirage I'm sure .
Trust me - it will look great, and you'll be wondering why you were worrying about making such any easy "fix" in the first place .
It's nowhere near as big a job as when I pulled up the entire quarterdeck on "Supply" because the kit plans were wrong, or when Grant pulled off the whole stern of his Victory because he wasn't happy with his first efforts. You'll finish up a much better modeller after you have done it and you realize that ANYTHING can be fixed - and it's not anywhere near as hard as you thought it would be .
Danny
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Dan Vadas reacted to mir0n in Working copper bilge-pump 1820, 1:64 scale
Test drive
In a cup of tap water
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from augie in Le Mirage by Sjors - FINISHED - Corel - Wood - 1:75
Hi Sjors,
Oh dear, I hope it wasn't something I said . Don't worry Sjors, a couple of weeks of vacation will soon have you wanting to keep building Mirage I'm sure .
Trust me - it will look great, and you'll be wondering why you were worrying about making such any easy "fix" in the first place .
It's nowhere near as big a job as when I pulled up the entire quarterdeck on "Supply" because the kit plans were wrong, or when Grant pulled off the whole stern of his Victory because he wasn't happy with his first efforts. You'll finish up a much better modeller after you have done it and you realize that ANYTHING can be fixed - and it's not anywhere near as hard as you thought it would be .
Danny
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Dan Vadas reacted to Adrieke in Le Mirage by Sjors - FINISHED - Corel - Wood - 1:75
anything can be fixed doesnt always mean you need to do it as long as you are happy with it
thats one thing i love about building in wood. if you are not satisfied with something you made you only need a bit more wood to redo it
enjoy your holliday Anja and Sjors
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from Dubz in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
Pintles
I made the rudder Pintles from 1.6mm thick brass sheet. First I milled most of the inside, leaving a thin piece at the bottom for strength while the rest of the work was carried out :
Then I cut each piece from the main sheet, sanded the angle at the fore end on the disc sander and drilled the holes for the Pins and bolts :
I filed out the thin centre and silver-soldered in the Pins :
Next job was to mill the rebates for the straps and recess the fore ends. For a Mill Cutter I ground the point of a 1.6mm drill flat - perfect tiny cutter (note - I only left a very short piece protruding from the chuck so it wouldn't snap off). The last two pics are of a dry-fitted pintle :
Then I lightly blackened them to simulate bronze :
And finally another dry-fit :
Danny
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from Mike Y in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
Pintles
I made the rudder Pintles from 1.6mm thick brass sheet. First I milled most of the inside, leaving a thin piece at the bottom for strength while the rest of the work was carried out :
Then I cut each piece from the main sheet, sanded the angle at the fore end on the disc sander and drilled the holes for the Pins and bolts :
I filed out the thin centre and silver-soldered in the Pins :
Next job was to mill the rebates for the straps and recess the fore ends. For a Mill Cutter I ground the point of a 1.6mm drill flat - perfect tiny cutter (note - I only left a very short piece protruding from the chuck so it wouldn't snap off). The last two pics are of a dry-fitted pintle :
Then I lightly blackened them to simulate bronze :
And finally another dry-fit :
Danny
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from JeffT in Name the Ship Game
Supply it is David (sorry Adrieke - he beat you to it ).
Wish I'd seen that painting when I was building her - I just found it by accident this morning. Not to worry - the model came out almost exactly the same .
Danny
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Dan Vadas got a reaction from Brigg Fair in HMS Vulture 1776 by Dan Vadas - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - 16-gun Swan-class sloop from TFFM plans
Thanks for dropping in Pat and Adrieke.
Hmm, maybe I'd better send them down to you Pat - I won't be needing them for quite a while, and they're getting out of practice :
I could do a better job on shrouds and ratlines than them now :D
Danny
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