captainbob

Surgery is no fun. Boat building is. Glad it went well and you’re back. Bob

Never thought I'd say this but that's a good looking Kraken. Bob

Richard, Thanks for coming along on what I hope is a merry ride. Bob

Pierre, Welcome to MSW and with all your experience with tugs, don’t be afraid to jump in if you see me doing something wrong. You need to start a build log of your Endeavour so we can share more. Bob

Keith, Thanks for your kindness. I have not commented much on your Swift but you have amazing skills yourself. The Hoga was such a special boat and there are so many Navy men on this forum, I only hope I can do her justice. Bob

Richard, Like you I was white collar and now retired. And like you I want a small mill. I only scratch build and I add brass parts where it will look good. But I still have not found a need for a mill. Even the Dremel set up is not used as a mill, it is a small drill press. I still want a mill but even the price of a Vanda-Lay is hard to justify for a tool I would not get much use from and have mainly for bragging rights. Like my other tools, if the need ever arises then the justification is there but until then I remain mill-less. Bob

Ah, she was such a lovely boat. It will be nice to see the model. Bob

Guy, Thanks for the information every little bit helps. I have the building information on the kits that have been made over the past few years and the more I study them the more I realize none of them match what little there is on the Nokomis drawings. So I am going to try and make my own line drawings from the Nokomis pdf. I don’t know if I can do any better than they did but if nothing else I will have better knowledge about the proper shape. Looks like the sawdust will have to wait a little longer. Bob

My Dremel stand and X-Y table are both about ten years old. Bob

I bought the X-Y when it was much cheaper. And I’m still trying to figure out what a ship model builder needs with a mill. I use my set up mainly to drill holes in a straight line or locating the hole more precisely. As far as mounting hold the X-Y on the base where you want it and mark through the slots on the base. Drill where it will not damage the table. Bob

I have the Proxxon mounted to my Dremel stand. I had to drill new mounting holes to mount it to the base. It works fine. This is my setup. The board on top is fastened with T-nuts. It allows me to screw the part down or to screw a clamp board anywhere I want instead of just the T-slots. Also if I’m drilling a series of holes or making a slot all the way through I don’t have to worry about damaging the cross slide. The other picture shows the mounting to the Dremel stand. The holes in the Proxxon do not line up with the stand base. Bob

Popeye, Thanks for stopping by. Bob

Michael, Check out this build: First Class Sloop of War Constellation by Jerry Todd in 1:36 scale. Jerry is building a large multi sailed ship and may be able to help you with your sail control. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3244-first-class-sloop-of-war-constellation-by-jerry-todd-in-136-scale/ Bob

What can I say that hasn't been said. Have a great day and many more. Bob

On my new build I have three pictures of the same boat taken at different times that show changes. All we can do is build the one we like. Bob

Nice tug and nice travels. Bob

It gets better all the time. Bob

Oh No! Now I’m in trouble. I have someone looking over my shoulder that knows what it really looked like. Learner, feel free to jump in any time you see me straying. Most ship molders don’t get to get this kind of firsthand information. Thanks for all the pictures. The Hoga.pdf was new to me. I’ve been searching the web for about ten years and have pictures of twenty of the Woban class tugs but had not heard of the Woyot. Do you know how many were in the class? I hope to start cutting wood soon. Bob

Your detail is amazing. Bob

Thanks Wayne, Yes, that is what I am comparing the kit drawings to. For anyone interested the drawings at this site are squeezed end to end. The ratio of length to beam is 4:1 that deck looks 2.5:1. The pdf at http://www.hnsa.org/doc/plans/index.htm is correct. The HNSA site also has pdf’s of many more US naval vessels from the 1940’s Bob

Aw, Come on now. That's no fun.

Ah, that’s a lot of engineering you have to do. I will be interested to watch it all work out. Bob

Piet, - I only hope I can do it justice. John, - It was in the navy mothball fleet until quite recently. Then there was a battle over which museum would get it. It is now in dry-dock being patched up enough to make the trip through the Panama Canal and up the river to North Littlerock. Now would be the only time that they could take off the lines and I really doubt they will. Richard, - Thanks for stopping by. Your Monterey should make a fine build. Bob

Thanks Yves, It turns out that the navy did not keep any plans of their small boats, such as tugs, so any hull plan would only be a close approximation. Bob

Hello all, I am going to step away from sails for this build and build a boat I’ve wanted to build for a long time. When I started modeling boats I was in an RC boat club in Indianapolis. We sailed One Meters in the summer and in the winter we ran scale RC boats in indoor swimming pools. That’s when I saw a picture of a fire boat called “The City of Oakland”. I wanted to build it 25” long (1:48 scale) with working water pump and monitors. That was about ten years ago. Since then I have been searching the web for all I could find. And what I found changed my mind as to the build. City of Oakland The City of Oakland was originally the yard tug HOGA YT-146. The keel was laid down 7/25/1940, Launch date was 12/1/1940 and it was delivered to Pearl Harbor 5/1/1941. (This is from the web) City of Oakland, ex-Hoga, is of exceptional significance in American history as the only known surviving yard craft present at Pearl Harbor during the Japanese attack on the U.S. Pacific Fleet on December 7, 1941. Hoga fought fires on Battleship Row for 72 hours. The actions of the tug's skipper and crew did not go unrecognized. On February 1942, ADM. Chester A. Nimitz, CINCPAC, commended McManus, his men, and their tug for a job well done: “For distinguished service in line of your profession as Commanding Officer of the Navy Yard Tug HOGA, and efficient action and disregard of your own personal safety during the attack.... When another ship was disabled and appeared to be out of control, with serious fires on the fore part of that ship, you moored your tug to her bow and assisted materially in extinguishing the fires. When it was determined that the damaged ship should be beached, as there was serious danger of her sinking in the channel, you assisted in the beaching operations in an outstanding manner. Furthermore, each member of the crew of the HOGA functioned in a most efficient manner and exhibited commendable disregard of personal danger throughout the operations.” Placed on loan to the Port of Oakland, California, in 1948, it was returned to the navy after 40 years of service. Recently it was awarded to the City of North Littlerock, AR. to be in their museum. At present it is in a boat yard near San Francisco being prepared for transport to North Littlerock Hoga is one of about 30 of the Woban YT-138 class. The problem in this build is that there are no line drawings of this boat. I have many, many pictures and internal equipment drawings but no lines. I hope to build the Hoga as it was at Pearl Harbor prior to the attack. I got the build plans for the Billing’s kit and I will scale the bulkheads and keel to 1:96 and see where to go from there. So wish me luck and follow along with me. Bob Hoga at sea trials Hoga at Paerl Harbor