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Traditional Wooden Boats in the Norwegian Maritime Museum, Oslo
wefalck replied to wefalck's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Very simple: there are shovel-like implements with short handles, bailers. I think you can see one on one of the images. If I am not mistaken they found such bailers in the ship-graves. It works with keel-boats as well as with flat bottoms. -
... and, if it had been asbestos, its safe removal and disposal in a licensed facility (according to EU legislation) would cost you more than the boat is worth 😲
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I recently spent a few days in Oslo and had the opportunity to visit the Norsk Maritimt Museum. They have a small collection of wooden boats strongly reminiscent of the Viking Age - more than a thousand years on: https://www.maritima-et-mechanika.org/maritime/oslo/oslo.html For comparison, there are also a few pictures of the boats from the GOKSTAD-grave in the Vikingskibethus.
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Fillers for bulkheads
wefalck replied to legend's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
The fillers should be somewhat softer than the bulkheads, but not too soft, so that one doesn’t sand hollows into it. l found MDF board a useful and cheap choice with the added advantage that it is not directional. -
I used to make such bolts and nuts in my pre-lathe days on the hand-held drill: take a piece of brass rod (I actually used small brass nails that turn better, due to being work-hardened from the stamping process) into the chuck, turn a step on the front with a small file, then (using the hex-nut of chuck as guide) I filed the six sides by counting the number of file strokes on each side, finally filed the short 'bolt' that will go into a pre-drilled hole and parted off. You won't produce them by hundreds this way, but it's quick enough for machinery, such as winches or the engine. Today, of course, I use the lathe and the dividing head on my milling machine.
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On the flooring: was it actually done like this, i.e. like a ship's deck, and not rather in sections that could be lifted up for access to the bilge ?
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Strop is a piece of rope spliced into a ring and used to attach things, such as blocks, for instance. If a block is going to have a hook at the end, the strop is going all around the block and through the eye of the hook. It is then tied together between the hook and the block. Strops and the likes are usually tarred. In fact, the strops may be also 'wormed'. The tar until the early decades of the 19th would be derived from the destillation of different barks/woods and dark brown in colour, rather than black. 'Pitch-black' tar only became available as a waste product from the destillation of coal to obtain gas for street-lighting in the 1820s or so. In consequence, it might be better to work with natural colour 'rope' and dye it a dark brown.
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You need to check with the suppliers/manufacturers.
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That makes sense now 👍
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Building up the keel and stem-/stern-posts this way certainly is an option, particularly, when you paint the model afterwards. If you opt for an 'artisanal' kind of model that shows your skill at woodworking, you probably would need to go for cutting a real rabbet into massive wood. BTW, I did not understand the above picture: the actual keel and the posts should be wider than the 'false' keel plate in order to provide a step against which the planks can land.
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Actually not. The under-planking is just there to allow better fairing of the real planking. So, the rabbet should be cut, after the under-planking is on.
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Stopper for what ?
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I don't think it is known, how these boats were built, using moulds or just by eye. As you are going to reproduce a reconstruction, making moulds or a plug to reproduce the reconstructed lines-plan would be the way to go. You say "The scale makes true mortice-and-tenon construction pretty challenging", but you don't say what your planned scale will be ...
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I gather it is a question of the relationship between the stiffness of the material used for planking and the distance between the bulkheads. You want a spline, rather than a chord. Also fairing the bulkheads is difficult, when they are too far apart.
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For wood, you should look for 2-flute carbide endmills then. The ones with 1/8" shaft are easy to find on ebay in diameters up from 1 mm to 3.2 mm, i.e. 1/8", and cheap. Larger diameters tend to be more expensive. These carbide endmills are not really suitable for steel, but can be used on brass and aluminium, as well as on plastics, such as acrylic glass. For milling on bevels and V-grooves, you can also use single-lip carbide engraving cutters, again with 1/8" shaft. They can be also sourced quite cheaply on ebay. For milling half-round fillets and flutes, there are 2-fluted ball-nose end-mills in carbide. Same source again. On ebay you can also find small wood-working routers with 1/8" shafts as sets at a low price. Some of them may be only CV steel, so they may not last too long.
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As Kurt noted above, the technical reason for using double-planking is that the bulkheads on kits are spaced too far in order to prevent the planking from sagging. Letting aside the aspect of gaining experience (which is not so important, if you plan ahead and work carefully), there is another and probably faster way around this: (partially) filling the spaces between the bulkheads with scrap pieces of wood. The wood should have more or less the same hardness as the bulkheads. One colours the edges of the bulkheads and then glues pieces of wood between them that are just a tad proud of them, creating a sort of thick shell. You then sand the pieces down until you touch the coloured bulkheads. During the fairing you will bevel the forward and after bulkhead until only a thin coloured line is left. Depending on how the waterlines look like, in the midship section not much fairing may need to be done. In any case, you will end up with a hollow, faired hull that is ready for planking.
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Exactly. Bevelling doesn't mean rounding, it means that a corner is 'broken' into a facet, often 45°, but not necessarily so. This kind of bevel with sharp edges is frequently found on stems in order to improve the hydrodynamics. You would have to verify it, however, for your special case.
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If you look closely, you can actually see the bevelling, it begins at a distance of about the diameter of the bowsprit below the bowsprit.
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Which varnish??
wefalck replied to Edwardkenway's topic in Painting, finishing and weathering products and techniques
Even in the days, when I applied Humbrol by brush, I avoided altogether the Matt Varnish because of exactly these white spots. Actually, I don't see much use for really matt varnish in ship modelling. Very few parts, apart from those where the paint has been eroded by seawater and UV light, would be completely flat. -
Which varnish??
wefalck replied to Edwardkenway's topic in Painting, finishing and weathering products and techniques
The 'matt' in Matt Varnish is brought about by adding very finely ground pumice or the likes to the varnish. This will settle with time, so needs to be very thoroughly stirred before and during use. The white patches may be higher concentrations of the matting agent. I remember this from the days, when I used Humbrol enamels. Question: why do you put clear varnish on something already painted ? -
Looking for Serving Thread Vendors?
wefalck replied to RBohlman's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Searching for '100 wt black thread' turned up numerous results in the USA and Europe. Dito on ebay. -
Your domestic workshop ?
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Perhaps you can tell us, what kind of mill you are talking about and what materials you intend to work with ? In general, I would stay away from hobby-shop stuff. They buy (bulk) the things that are available elsewhere too and there you normally get information on what you are actually buying. There are three main categories of tool material in general use today: chrome-vanadium steel (CV), high-speed steel (HSS), and carbides. The typical bits with 2.4 mm or 1/8" shank are usually CV, which accounts for their quickly becoming dull, when working on ferrous metals or wood. HSS is the better option for mills and drills. Carbide mills and drills have a much keener edge, but a more brittle and less forgiving than HSS. However, carbide mills and drills can be found quite cheaply e.g. on ebay due to the fact that factories replace them in their production processes before they become actually dull. They are still good enough for our puposes then. Otherwise, more information would give you better quality answers.
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Microlux x-y table attachment
wefalck replied to Moab's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
These appear to be clones of the original PROXXON table that is part of their MF70 and also sold separately. I don't think PROXXON is too pleased that the Chinese sell these tables at half the price of the original one. Personally, I don't find the turning handles on the handwheels very useful. You have a less positive feel of what the table is doing. Like all such tables, the gib-strips need to be adjusted very carefully to ensure smooth movement. I would also install a zero-ing micrometer drum, if it was mine. -
Yes, it is understood, that the hole rope/tackle would be impregnated. I am doing this to get closer to the natural sag of ropes and coils of ropes. Here is an example of arranging ropes in situ and weighing them down until the solvent has evaporated. Any sheen from the varnish tends to disappear, when when one applies some pure varnish (here acetone) with a brush.
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