Mike Y
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Keith, thanks for info! Luckily, my keel is not warped (yet), maybe because it is quite thick, or because I glued the decks already (so they add some strength). -
Vivian, thanks! Just a bit of warning - contact the seller and agree that they can provide more planks if number of planks in the box is too low. According to my rough calculations, you need around 40-45 planks on each side, so you need something like 80-90 planks for a ship. AL gives you just 70 (according to item list), which is a really tight number, you cant afford to break planks or throw away the scraps. And mahogany is brittle and can break while bending. It is very frustrating, good reason to consider other kit if its one of your first builds. And I'm not the only one with that issue, I saw similar frustration in some other logs too.
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Jesse, thanks a lot for your suggestions! They are really valuable. Didnt thought about hull warping, it could be a problem. Will plank symmetrically next time.
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Watching with interest! Does Britannia build going to be more advanced then the previous one (Endeavour)?
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Hi Erik, nice to see you
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Also, Vasa museum have an amazing book written by Fred Hocker, their head of research. Fantastic illustrations and context. For shipbuilders they sell a set of high quality detailed drawings for an extremely low price (100kr) That could be a must have set for all Vasa builders!
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Indeed, you are right. I recognized it too late. But also I used nails for real, to hold the planks So now I hammer nails deeper during sanding, which takes a lot of time.. Casey, thanks! Yes, AL is a bit dissappointing. I did not wasted any planks, every small broken piece is used for small planks in the top part of the hull, above waterline. And still, there are just not enough planks. But, well, its a cheap kit after all.
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Finished planking of one side. It was a lot of experience, which is clearly visible on a hull. First planks has bigger gaps and less accurate fit. Finished hull looks quite nice, there are some small gaps and imperfections, and I really hope I can smoothen them by sanding. Lets see when the entire hull would be completed Lesson learnt, it is really extremely imporant to properly shape the bulkheads, next time I will do some temporarily planking to make sure that bulkheads are forming a smooth line. There are some "pits" on a hull that are simply incorrectly shaped bulkhead. Well, thats what experience is! Now switching to MS longboat (pinnace) as a side project, need to have a rest from bending & sanding of the majogany planks...
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If you are interested in Vasa history, there is a really good research summary that clearly describes why it failed: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rqxfn0mrcsu0iw0/vasacasestudy.pdf Reasons are quite typical for any big project, especially IT projects. Changed requirements, subcontractors failing, opaque documentation, you name it P.S.: Nazgul, what kind of a wood supplied for a hull planking in that kit? Can't find it on Billings website
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It's a small belt sander, it has a pipe to collect the vacuum cleaner, but if I do it, all the dust will go into it I feel like it's really something simple, but can't find a way to collect enough dust with it. Maybe with some manual tool?
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Is there any trick how to collect the dust to mis it with the glue? I had quite a lot of dust from my planking, it was resting on a belt sander, but it was absolutely not enough for mixing it with glue. Trying to come up with some dust collecting tool..
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Thanks Glennard! Will try it
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Continiung planking. Moving quite slow, but, well, it's a slow process The most time-consuming planks are filler planks, like this: I have just two planks left on this side of the hull. Yaay! Really like the view of that mahogany, real wood. Should look better after sanding! Also found some imperfections in a hull shape, for the next build will spend more time on bulkhead shaping. And looks like I will be really out of mahogany planks quite soon. And not so many scraps to use. Will try to chase AL. Of course, they do not reply to mails, will call them.
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Thanks Wolf! Your build was one of the sources for inspiration
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Papegojan 1627 by mati - FINISHED - 1/48
Mike Y replied to mati's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
That is exactly how Wasa should look like before King ordered to add a second gundeck.. Amazing! Love that kind of ships, and that build is impressing, like "maybe someday I will be able to do something like this" -
Jay, thanks for the detailed info!
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Amfibius, thanks for stain info! Did you mixed it with water, or just used as is? Funny, looks like this stain brand is something local for Australia, can't find it anywhere else.
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Thanks for advice, Norman!
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Had a nice hobby day today, was building during the entire day, whoohoo! Placed 10 planks, including some tricky filler planks. That was quite simple thanks to my new proxxon belt sander. Looks like some kind of sander is mandatory for shipbuilding I like the result, filler plank is even hardly visible:
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Thanks for such detailed reply! Can I mix stain with water? If not - what should I use to make stain less colored, lighter?
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Really nice coloring! Would appreciate if you can share your secret and describe what stain was used
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Really? Oh! I just ordered that kit, but was sure that they are pre-cut... Maybe it's because your kit is old?
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Decided to make a dirty workaround to move forward. That would be an experience obtained while building a first model Just made a waterline planks as they should be, and filled the gap by diagonal planks. Also, the whole thing required quite a lot of sanding, and top part of the planks shrinked a bit after soaking, exposing gaps - will fill them with smth later. Not ideal, but well, next time I will do better! :: Also ordered Proxxon mini belt sander, hope it will help me to smoothen the planks.
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Installed a test planks and feel a bit confused. How am I suppose to keep the waterline (which is bent) but make a smooth transition below the waterline? Planking profile below the waterline looks really weird. Most probably I'm doing some obvious mistake, but can't find how to fix it. If I lay the planks in their natural position, then waterline would be flat, not bent line of as decks and gunports. Would appreciate an advice from experienced builders!
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