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Thanks for the tips. I was working on my chain plates n working out a jig but then saw this that just confirmed everything for me.
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It would be nice if i were able to see a similar real ship but nyc doesnt have any ships availale. I can't seem to find any information on chafing methods let alone the proper routing of these lines. Besides, this really isn't a chafing problem, it would be a hauling wear n fouling problem in the way these lines will fall. Figuring there must be an experianced builder here that has some Clippership experiance. At least lead me to a reliable reference to methods n practice used in 1850. Also my ship will be fitted with sails in place so all these lines will be present. Left to me, my rerouts wouldn't be very authentic to my ship plus leave me open for critisism after the fact.... Everyone has 20/20 hind sight!
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Thats great. Id run the lines through ball bearing blocks n coated fairleads, maybe even remotely motorize the entire shebang even though this is a tea clipper of 1850. Use silny sail cloth so rigging can be lighter?... Nah! So back to routing lines through shrouds. All the reading ive done just says how its run through fairleads attached to the shrouds, but no details or mention how these lines pass through without creating undue friction n clutter on lines when hauling, or undue wear on rubs. So do they just plumb through for a natural drop?... What kind of protection did they use in 1850? Do you know definatively how this was done?... Perhaps point me to some documentation on the protection techniques used in 1850 clippers? No matter how i see these lines going through, they make more problems regardless of how i move em using technology i am familiar with... But thats not 1850s methods, it would be 2014 methods!... But then id re engineer the entire ship to modern materials.
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Not to hijack this thread but i have a similar problem concerning bunts, clews n leachlines. After these lines pass through their proper holes, they are suposed to go to a fairlead on the shrouds then down to the pin rails. Well what id like to know, are these lines plumbed through the shrouds then to the fsirleads? If they pass through the shrouds, wont they create a wear problem on the shrouds? Wont they also create an obstical for men climbing into the trees? For some reason im not comfortable with this. Anyone have some photos? Oh, my ship is a scratch build clipper, flying fish.
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paul ron replied to Q A's Revenge's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
I find leaving my strips overnight in the toilet tank softens em enough for your sharpest bends... Jig em in till they dry n you are all set. -
Hahaha, that might hsve been me asking ladt year n never got an answer. I'm building the Flying Fish clipper n have some riggs up n the amt of actual line on deck would be imposable to put on a pin. Besides it is working rigging so it would need to be ready to work. Thus my question last year concerning balentines we used on the schooner i once sailed. Surprised the goat hadn't eatten the ropes in that picture.... Very tidy deck... Maybe balentines?
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That is fine when you are stoing a short line. What about when you have 50 or more feet of line on deck when a sail or mast has been raised? When i spent some time on a schooner, we learned how to stow rope in a balentine on the deck since this wold be the most efficiant anti fouling method. Was the balentine used this way on Clippers n other sail ships?
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