Glenn-UK
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I may use the evo stick glue that Dave used when I get to that stage or I may try the super Phatic glue I currently use, but will need to see if that will bond the tiles with the hull, It should do as it is a mix of wood glue and CA, good grab and 20 minutes dry time I had a horrible feeling it was a long drawn out process; something to look forward to then! -
Started planking up toward upper gun port opening, this is very slow work, managed two plank widths in 2.5 hours work last night, but expect to be able to complete sometime this weekend before I can finally move on to installation the upper gun deck. I still have to finish sanding the second planking but will leave that for another day. I plan to coat with a primer once the sanding is complete to find the areas which may need filling to get the best possible surface for the copper plating; a slow repetitive task I can hardly wait to start! I also still need to fit the rear keelson and stern post, but again this can wait a few days. I have dry fitted them and the fit is good, just a small amount of work to do near the lower stern counter before I can fit the stern post to ensure a good flat fit. A couple of pictures below showing the progress to date.
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Looking good, keep up the good work Patrick
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Back from a short break holiday and finally completed the first stage of the 2nd planking last night and started adding some filler, its still very much work in progress. Plan to start the first stage of the upper 2nd planking tonight. Picture of the bow Picture of hull with filler, much of this will disappear once I start sanding in earnest The MicroGlaze I ordered from the States arrived whilst I was away. It was very easy to use and gave a nice result. I made a dummy window frame and then applied the MicroGlaze.
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Hi Jerry It is but I have to take enforced breaks between each plank fitting to allow the glue to dry; 20 minutes for the Super Phatic glue I'm using. I will be happy when this phase of the build is complete and I can move on to another task. I have been sanding some of the rough edges as I wait and I've also regluing some small sections which have not adhered fully to hull when plank was first fitted.
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I was not planning on posting any more planking pictures for a while, but tonight I decided to go a bit off piste with the build. As the planking has been progressing tonight I suddenly thought it would be good to see where a mid point plank would lay running parallel to the gun port edge planks. I pinned a number of small plank lengths to find a good starting point which happened to be 4 plank widths, as shown in the first two photos. This enabled the plank to run true and also lined up perfectly with bow join. As I glued the plank in position I made sure the stern end finished on a fixed number of plank widths, the magic number was 2 plank widths. Finally a picture taken from the bow end showing the mid point plank fitted on both sides. The other advantage of this method for me is I can plank either side of this mid plank which means I can fit two planks per side a time which may reduce the construction time by a small amount. That ain't bread that's toast! (name the catch phrase)
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The rigging phase sure look complicated, but it hasn't stopped you at all, you made it look easy well done!
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Hello Jerry Very nice work usual, just one question; where did you get your serving machine, how about a picture?
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Just a quick update, I didn't get much time on ship build over the last three days due to family commitments. 2nd planking continues and I'm making slow but steady progress. I have now completed the planking from keelson along full length of stern post. Very happy with how the bow pattern has turned out, pity it will be covered by the copper tiles! Stealer cut to half width of plank by red map pin
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Shame about the damage to the bow spirit and it the right call to wait until you effect a repair. Nice set of photos once again keep them coming.
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A nice set of photos, and a great looking build
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Thanks Patrick On the whole I'm very pleased with the second planking and I don't think it will take much effort to get really smooth. The bit that will take the most work will be the edge where the stern post fits.
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I agree, with my Victory build I have been dry fitting every thing before committing to final assembly, this has helped me no end with understanding the build process in general and to avoid potential problems and pitfalls. Keep up the good work and enjoy the build.
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Still working on the 2nd planking. I provided my method for the fitting the strips around the gun ports. Now I'm working up from the stern I thought I would provide a description of the method I'm using, which is pretty similar. Mark cut position Check fit after cutting plank Dry fit around the bow using map pins Mark and cut plank at stern end Glue the plank and pin along the edge using map pins at regular points Here is some overview pictures of progress to date
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Amazing stroke of bad luck. I hope you manage to come up with a workable solution to this minor set back. I have full confidence in your abilities.
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Nice work Patrick, looking good. I'm looking forward to moving away from the repetitive work, even though I'm enjoying adding the second planking.
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It's nice to watch another Victory builder at work. I stated my build 2 months ago and expect it will 2 or 3 years at least to complete. I will follow you build and you seemed to have made a very good start, keep the pictures coming.
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I'm fast approaching 100 hours of build time since I started the build a couple of months ago! I've now 2nd planked down to the approx. waterline and have also started planking up from keel, as I really liked Patrick's 2nd plank effect so I thought why not give it a go as well. Fingers crossed mine will turn out as good looking as Patrick's. The plan is to continue to plank up from keel until the planks reach the waterline. I've been very happy with the fit of the 2nd planking except for one small minor plank section around the bow section which was sitting proud of the hull along the bottom edge, due to a poor bit of 1st planking. I didn't notice the problem until after the 2nd plank was glued in position. So I used a lot of pins to make sure the next plank was fitted correctly and I will need to do a little fix on the problem area before I get around to the copper plating stage. I'm also aware of another small potential problem with the fit of the 2nd planking where it terminates with the bottom edge of the lower stern counter. I will show the problem as the planking progresses but already thought about a couple methods for a simple fix. Will decide on best method once the 2nd planking is complete.
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Hello David Sorry to hear you'll be absent from the build for a short period, I trust the hospital treatment (at James Cook?) goes well for you and wishing you a speedy return to the job in hand.
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Hello Muggebigge Many thanks for viewing my log. So far I have not had to steam the planks to get the bends which is a big bonus. I used a plank bender tool for the 1st planking layer however.
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Hello Patrick Glad to here you are on the mend and you've made good progress. Been unable to source the micro glaze in the UK but have ordered a bottle from Micromart in the States so hopefully should be with me in a few days time.
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I thought I would share the method I have been using for the second planking, it may be a bit of a long winded process but it works well. Time taken to fit this plank was approx. 10 minutes, which included the time to take the photos. Stage 1 Dry fit the plank at bow end and use a map pin to hold in place, the pin is located just beneath the plank. Stage 2 Continue to pin the plank around the bend Stage 3 Final dry pin point is when the plank bend is complete Stage 4 Mark the cut line Stage 5 Remove the plank, by just releasing the pressure from the pins, but leaving the pins in place. Stage 6 I know many builders will use CA glue, but I prefer to use Super Phatic which is a hybrid between CA and wood glue for the 2nd planking. It has a good grab, and is easy to clean off the fingers. It normally takes 20 minutes to set. I apply the glue to the whole plank. Stage 7 Fit plank to hull and tap the pins back in. Stage 8 Add more pins along the length. Stage 9 Make sure the stern section is pinned. I hope you have found this method informative.
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I have been able to spend some time this weekend continuing with the 2nd planking, have finally cleared the gun ports, so hopefully I should be able to speed up a bit. Here are some pictures.
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There is a lots of things I've never heard off either before but as you progress with the build these names seem to become second nature. A great set of photos which shows you understand the complexity of the rigging, I'm very impressed.
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